Councillor Kazi Siddique - fir for public office
 

The conduct of Kazi Siddique as councillor is at best imperfect. Councillor Jones amongst others has questioned his credentials and dedication as councillor and as possible mayor going forward.

However it is not his dedication that ought to be questioned. It may be noteworthy but there are other far more pressing matters.

Allow me to elucidate thus enabling readers to make their own judgement.

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Fir???????

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I think it's supposed to say "fit".

:confused:

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OK, you are allowed to elucidate...we are waiting. Oh, and while you are at it, how about qualifying your remarks about the conduct of Cllr. Siddique? Or is this going to be another one of your "I know something that you don't know" exercises?

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I do hope this does not turn in to another 30page thread with no actual substance what so ever.

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i thought fir was banned?

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Perhap's he's doing a Dickens, and just giving us one installment per week.

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There was substance but it has been deleted presumably because nobody knows if it's truthful substance or rumour. :rolleyes:

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I don't really agree with him being banned, unless he was banned for reasons we don't know about.

Everyone has a right to voice their opinion don't they?

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Perhaps. But I dont think Roy is responsible for the content posted by other people.. although it would be a good idea to remove it if it was simply an accusation with no real proof.

E.g. if somebody posted racist content I dont think Roy could be prosecuted for it.

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No, maybe not...but it does bring the site into disrepute...especially if he is saying something that has no bearing in fact...just his own opinion.
Opinions are not fact.

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Yes true. I suppose it depends what it was, but i'd always like to be able to air my opinions no matter what they were.. but I guess im not likely to make them without some sort of evidence because it doesn't go down too well, understandably!

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Cyfr...you can air your opinions and beliefs as long as they don't masquerade as facts.

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It was an accusation and given this site is not really the vehicle for the sort of accusation made then I think it was correctly deleted tp protect the site and indeed the accused until such time as it gets in to the public domain through the 'proper' channels.

My guess is that most people enjoy Accyweb as a community forum and like to discuss and form an opinion on any decisions made by official bodies, the post made took it beyond that boundary.

I also realise that I need to be quicker off the mark in copying and saving so I can make a fast buck out of deleted posts :D :D

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I also read the deleted post, & totally agree with the decision to remove it.

:)

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Does anyone want to enlighten me via PM about the deleted post? I am intrigued :p

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C'mon Cyfr......admit it.....you aren't intrigued, just nosey :)

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I have to say I know nothing and missed the deleted post. If there was an allegation of Council impropriety I would take it up if it merited it.

I want to vote for the Mayorality based on hard work, length of service and honesty. However since the late 90's when shenangans have dominated the position, it has become 'non-political' with a small p. In others words no-one is allowed to make criticisms and we all vote the same way.

I don't agree with this but Labour colleagues believe it is for the greater good that we accept the rules of one Tory one Labour in alternate years (as laid down by PB), chosen by that years party, and fully supported by the other side whatever their feelings happen to be. This way the office of Mayor is not dragged down by politics.

Kazi Siddique is down to be the next Mayor. However the selection for Mayor should have taken place as per usual in January. I suspect the Tories have held off till after the election because they can gain votes Central Ward to gain votes by word of mouth, but by not being published in the press pre-election, the Tories will not lose votes everywhere else where people would be against it in all probability.

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I missed it too. But I had a sneaking suspicion that this thread was going to be like the last one, and keep us hanging on for very little substance.

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Intrigued/Nosey.. same thing? :p

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Yeah...but nosey sounds more honest. :)

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Finally, he's come out and actually named the person he's gunning for - shame it's got him banned. I presume he's been banned because of the potential libel. Wish I'd seen what he wrote - just out of curiosity you understand.

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Its called being nosey apparently ;) :p :p

No PM's yet, everyones keeping silent! :p

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Can you as you say, you have a sheep like vote, inform this forum of the said candidate for Mayors suitablity or non suitability for office? In the absence of gondola!

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i heard about this today and the news seems to have spred across the town believe it or no. anaway in wen i cheked the post the allegations were specific and i have also heard of these allegations about siddique a few months ago. there was a lot of suspicion about this man within the asian community and from gondolas posts it was v. specific. siddique has got a nasty reutation as a well known malicious fraudster -ask anyone in the asian community. i bet gondola is right. i hope graham jones has the guts to investigate.

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I doubt it spinner, thank you for your post most helpfull, come on Councillor Jones say what is common knowledge in this town, god help Hyndburn, If he prevails.

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oh i could tell you a few things !!! im sure graham knows a few more

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Every individual in this country has the right to protected against malicious and false accusations. When so many rumours exist without that last bit of firm evidence, then I think it incumbant on that individual to come out themselves and 'clear the air'.

Rumours at work or down the pub are fine because that is private chat, public messageboards however are not. That is why it was removed because in Britain, it would not only be Gondola, but Roy who would be libeled. And if I wrote anything, Roy would be libeled again if sumonsed, as it is against the law to publish a known untruth should there be a complaint.

Why not Kazi? I think Kazi's contribution to Hyndburn has been zero and he was only elevated to cabinet by PB for political purposes. He claims £11,000 per year but has little cabinet reponsibility and has had no input at all. The streets of Central Ward are filthy and he is not interested. In 7 years he has not lifted a finger. There are a lot community minded people in Central and they are unhappy about his role.

I am not happy that someone who cannot speak English properly can even be a Councillor. You are there for everyone and whilst 51%?? of Central is Asian, 49%?? is not. For me english is a must requirement as a Councillor even if it was 100% asian. We have a meeting on Monday night to discuss it, however the Tories have pulled the Mayor making item from Tuesday's Full Council meeting. What a surprise!!!

Ask yourselves this. In January we select May's Mayor. Why this year have the Tories not done so? We all know it's Kazi for Mayor unofficially. However I would not put it past PB to make that promise by word of mouth just 'on the streets' of Central for votes. After the elections, see if he has lost, or make any decision because the voters after May 3rd then have no choice. If this thread carries on like this I can see them switching to Dobson or Lockwood because they won't want to get found out this side of the election.

As for the sheep comment. Labour Councillors agreed to debate, work together and bide by a majority decision amongst themselves. Anything else represents chaos.

In this case we were forced by PB into accepting a Tory (of their choice) every other year and they would ALLOW us a Labour Mayor of our choice the alternate year. I have a big problem with this method because an unacceptable Mayor may be nominated by them for political purposes (like Kazi), and we are tied to the decision before the person is named. However the public don't want political squabbling, espcially over the mayorality.

If we did not accept this position, the Tories/PB threatned to put a Tory Mayor in most years (whenever they wanted because they have the majority of votes 19-16 at the moment). Typical shotgun politics by PB and Labour Councillors were forced into accepting the best of a bad job.

This Conservative Council is a morally corrupt Council. It's not even *P*olitics anymore with a cap P.

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I presume that depends if an intepreter is available ?

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If the Tories lose their seat will Siddique still be Mayor? I'm not really up on politics but the fact that he gets £11,000 for ****** all irritates me.

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[quote=g jones;411917]Every individual in this country has the right to protected against malicious and false accusations. When so many rumours exist without that last bit of firm evidence, then I think it incumbant on that individual to come out themselves and 'clear the air'.


well to be fair gondola did indicate that he had evidence. i dont think that siddique will 'come out and clear the air , he would hav done so unless of course Britters thinks of supressing the evidence. i think the issues need to be brought out in the open everbody in the asian community is already complaining about why it hasnt

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i agree fully

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sorry for me going on a bit about this thread but ive just come back from pakistan and people cant believe somebody who cant speak englis can get such roles in the uk. i had the misfortune of having siddiq as my counciller and contacted him about something. i spoke to him in english initially -he couldnt understand and than i spoke to him in his own language. he told me he didnt deal with council matters and that i should contact the council personally. fustrated i had to go to jean battle who said many people had been fobbed off in this manner. angry i contacted Britters who said this was my opinion and put the phone down. tell me peter britcliff why did you put the phone down and dismissed my concerns

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Me too! I can't believe we read through all that guff he wrote and never got to see what he was on about!

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Thank you Willow and Spinner for giving the viewpoint of some who lives in Central Ward. I agree that a Councillor must be able to speak English, so that they can deal effectively with the problems of the people , who live in their ward.

Also any Councillor who is elected Mayor needs to be able to communicate with all the residents of Hyndburn, as well as representing the Borough in other areas of Lancashire. Our current Mayor, Dr Rahman, has been a a credit to the Borough, as its First Citizen.

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Look ! I'm a complete numpty as far as politics/council matters are concerned, but are you seriously telling me that one of our voted in councillors cannot speak the Queen's English !!! :rofl38: ('scuse my mirth).
Surely, this should be one of the first criteriors for anyone holding this honourable position !! Do you think 'he says' he can't speak English when it is most convenient to him ?

I don't understand why Councillors should have any political bias in any direction (sure someone is going to put me straight) .. what is the difference between a 'Labour' councillor and a 'Tory' councillor making a decision whether it be a wayward Taxi drivers or a cracked paving stone .. all an enigma to yours truly.

All councillors should be Independent in by opinion and not use any political persuasions to make decisions ... whatever that may entail.

Is it all to do with the money backing to become a councillor in the first place. Need an understanding here.

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I can appreciate that it is beneficial for a Councillor to be able to speak the language of the majority of the voters in his ward but I can't quite see how he could get selected in the first place by the party to represent them if he could not speak English - how did the Conservative selection committee put him forward?

As for Dr Rahman, I've said it before but he has been an absolute credit to the Borough. He's been an excellent Mayor (and he speaks excellent English).

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I find it incredible that there are a range of people in this man's council ward that he CANNOT represent because he (I am told) has little grasp of the English language....and even more incredible that there are people who live in his ward and he WILL not represent them(even though he CAN speak their language).

It seems ludicrous that a man is going to be put into the role of Mayor when he can not promote our town. What on earth are we thinking of????????

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It beggars belief how PB can put him up for it knowing those facts!

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the election leaflets are preparedby someone who works for him. that is why i initially spoke to him in english as i had expected it to be the same man who had wrote the leaflets. i was shocked , my concerns were eventually represented by jean battle who told me that many people ended up doing so because of siddiqs inabilty and unwillingness in some cases. thats what maddend me enough to contact Britters who said it was my opinion. isnt it a fact rather than an opinion peter?

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And to be honest Graham, I think the public would rather have a political squabble than a totally unsuitable Mayor. I mean, how does it make us look if we have a mayor like this?

Maybe it is PB who doesn't want a political squabble.

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I should add for clarity, Councillor Mr Siddique can speak what would be decribed as 'pigeon english' or 'broken english'. Spinners complaint is one that gets aired often and for some reason they all go and contact Clr Jean Battle. I think it is because of the Neighbourhood Management Board in the area and her excellent work with asian woman.

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Broken English/Pigeon English - it is what I call little grasp of english.
If the people of his own ethnicity are unhappy with his work surely that says something....and shouldn't that be taken on board? It would be a travesty to appoint him as Mayor.......and as far as the political situation you have outlined in a previous post, regarding the ALLOWING of a labour Mayor on alternate years....that is farcical. (I hope I have understood correctly).

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no grahem i was directed by the council switchboard

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Well you know the landscape Margaret. If we pointed out everything PB says we are only out to hear our own voices and score political points and the letters page gets letters saying 'why can't counillors work together'. It's a fine line.

To make progress you have to accept majority rule. Independents are a recipe for chaos. In fact the two Independents are now helping each other (the beginnings of a non independent alliance!).

As a Labour Councillor we all express views, there is a debate, a consensus is reached with a vote, and then we all abide by the collective decision. It is not a 'sheep vote' but a democratic decision. Their can be no other way of working together and making progress.

The collective decision may well be to back Kazi because the consequences of not doing will be far more damaging in retribution from the Conservatives - and I don't just mean the mayorality. The Conservatives make all decisions as they have the majority of Councillors. That's life!

My personal view is as expressed above and I will say so, but I will support the majority view whatever that is.

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[quote=Margaret Pilkington;412119]Broken English/Pigeon English - it is what I call little grasp of english.
be a travesty to appoint him as Mayor.......

well hes already showing off about it and is trying to get people to vot for him as this will mean he will become mayour. he is a portfolio holder for community relations itsays on the council website. how did he manage to get such a fancy sounding job ? Britters?

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[QUOTE=spinner;412123]Well if you are suggesting the Mayorality is for sale (for votes), I would have to agree. Central is crucial to either a Labour or Tory Council, unless the anti-government brigade switch off for a day (May the 3rd would be an ideal day) and deal with local issues in other seats.

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Well, lets hope that some of the voters wake up and kick some butt before it is too late. I can understand why there are some people who are very disillusioned with politics...local AND national.

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Just an update. The Council agenda has arrived for next Tuesday's Full Council Meeting. The Mayorality has been omitted again so no official decision until after the election. The voters of Central Ward are apparently being told by word of mouth from Kazi and associates, but all the remaining Councillors are obvioulsy not being told.

Also the £600,000 Hyndburn Portal enquiry report due by the end of February has been shelved now until after the election.

Isn't Hyndburn wonderful!

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Having read leaflets written in English I tended to arrive at the same conclusion Spinner. Yes it is a fact rather than an opinion and I think PB should have the decency to acknowledge that.


No, it's because the man they should contact and do contact will not do a blessed thing! What exactly is he on the council FOR?

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i think we should all write to peter britcliff to express our disgust at his appointment of siddiq . he needs to be brought to account. does anybody hav any other suitable ideas

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Yes ... a mayor elected by the people not one chosen by political claptrap.

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Tarzans second mate Cheeta, has just had it's birthday, I think it was 70odd years old. PB would have put that chimp up in Kazi's ward if he thought it mighn't have won the tories the seat! Fear not the truth will out.

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oh my god it couldnt hav been put better. re the truth theres so much about kazi i fear that a can of worms will explode

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Nowt to do with me .. but I really find it hard to understand why you lot (Accrington) vote Tory.. you desrves all you get!

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dont tar us all wit the same brush but i really blame those who elect britcliff who can make people like kazi think he is a king or something. i hope they think twice about who they vote for. their all the same attitude has led to the likes of pb and kazi grinning from ear to ear

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Maybe it's perception on my part but I think it's fairly common all over the country to see the council being of a different persuasion than the local MP.

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What happened to innocent until proven guilty, and the right to reply?

Oh yes I forgot, forum rules state that all posts must be made in English.:D

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He can always get his mate PB to write his script Gary, it seems to have worked very admirably thus far.:D. At the end of the day even Cheeta could have done better than Kazi.

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well why doesnt he reply hes got ample opporyunity as he from graham jones experience doesnt seem to do anything. maybe he can get the lad who writes his leaflets to translate. he wont bother because hed be hung drawn and quartered. as far as im nconcerned he is evil personified. i dont say that lightly

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trust you to bak his corner just to get at us

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Since all a Mayor has to do is smile, wave, and shake hands, whilst dressed in his or her Sunday best, we might be better off with a chimpanzee.

http://www.generationv.org/media/car...lder_chimp.jpg

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oh sorry i didnt read the bottom bit garinda

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I'm not.

I think it's outrageous.....that you are all being so nasty to a man who can't answer back.:D

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Lol. Appology granted.:D

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Yes seems to go that way .. but why?.. do voters think an "oppostion" party will be better for the region they live in?..dosent make sense.. and if people vote for a local party out of protest.. it's useless and stupid to think your council can make any difference. An "oppostition" council, in this case the Tories have only one thing to adhere to.. that is to confront the National Goverment and to stir up as much aggro as possible, the welfare and upkeep of the local area is a non factor!

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Gary where did you aquire my passport photograph.:D:D:D

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I take some of your previous comments on board, but to say the local Tories only agenda is to confront the national government and that they don't care about local issues is somewhat ludicrous.

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Willow I would love to read your 'Hyndborg' pic again.

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Cyfr although I disagree with you on your politics, I know that you have made many fine contributions to posts on Accyweb, and for someone of your age to take such an interest in local and national affairs is admirable.

But PB's only agenda seems to be the self promotion of himself with the creation of his own private fiefdom, and to change the basic rules, governing the conduct of Hyndburn Borough Council, to create a one party state. I know that there are some Tory councillors who do care about the state of the borough, but once they run foul of PB they are out in the cold.

Remember what Wyn Frankland, she had been a life long member of the Tory party, said when she resigned her council seat in 2005 - she called them Muppets and Puppets.

The current Tory Leader of our Council is well past his sell by date. Its Time for a Change in Hyndburn.

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I have been saying this since Adam was is a loin cloth.
PB needs the order of the boot.

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like the pic;)

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I wonder if the Accy Observer has been keeping it's beady eye on this thread? No doubt if they have, then they should be seriously considering talking to the gentleman in question in order to confirm or refute what has been posted on here. No doubt it will make an interesting story.

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i doubt it . siddiq kazi has friends in high places pb springs to mind. im sure the matter would be hushed away under the pretext of 'not wishig to damage community relationsetc

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But can't PB see that by not discussing the councillors shortcomings is already compromising community relations? Or is that a daft question?

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Me and thee have had this discussion before. If there are charges to be answered, there is always someone to ask them. You aren't seriously saying that Peter Britcliffe has the press in his pocket? If he has, he isn't doing that good a job, as the Observer is always full of letters complaining about him.

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garinda you just dont beleeve me that is your problem. kazi because of all the power pb has given him does hav friends in high places and because 'community relations' the press are wont publishing certain things.most people know this


im not going to say anymore whats the point when i hav kazis defence lawyer ready to kik up a fuss for him. do you like kazi garinda i bet youve never ever met him . i hav hes not a man to mess wit so why should i risk rantin on

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pb doesnt give a damn he gets the votes from central. the other half of the community dont know who the hell kazi is

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I'm afraid some people will vote in a 3 legged blind donkey if it wears a certain colour of rossette or lives within the same culture

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The donkey would probably do a better job too.

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I neither like or dislike this man. I do however think it is a cop out to say that nothing can be done if there are genuine charges to be made, just because he has 'friends in high places'.

How high up are his protective friends? Press Barons, government ministers, the Lord Chancellor...the PM?

As I've said umpteen times before, no one is beyond the reach of some form of public scrutiny.

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absolutely this is why kazi has been getting the votes. people know of his rep but still vote for him because he is from the same villiage in pakistan. he begs thems for the vote so they feel obliged. its crazy

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your just so gullible. the pm etc tend to be under more scrunity than your average jo . if they do anything slightly untoward they resighn giving this creates a strong image that the uk is corruption free as even the PM cant get away with anything. normal public servants are therefore fairly free from scrutiny. like i said if you dont know how things work within the local community than dont make brash comments. this is despite the fact that you know of the taxi driver who was aawarded his licence despite being a danger to women.

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anaway as far as kazi goes its difficult enough to try to convey what sort he is without certain people hysterically challenging me. its up to people who work in these organisations to whistleblow . to tell the truth im scared of him

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If, in the midst of your little conspiracy theory, you think the British political system, as well as the judiciary and the press, are currupt, then it is yourself who I think is gullible.

The pm you sent me, because you say you awere too frightened to go public with your claims about Cllr. Siddique, were nothing more than hearsay, and therefore you offered nothing of substance that could be investigated further.

If I was feeling uncharitable I would now be asking if you were perhaps related to him, because your posts are making less and less sense to me.

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dont you dare call my posts conspiracy theories . how dare you you obviously think your views are superior to everyoneelse you think youv got a god given right to dismiss other people. you asked for the name of the counciller. i didnt pm you out of the blue. i think its better that my posts dont make sense to you as i ts better that you dont respond. im sick of you bashing people with you opinionatd ideas

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I have the right to say whatever I like, as long as it's not offensive, it's a public forum.

If it isn't a conspiracy theory, give the facts.

You say you're scared. That's the difference between us. If I had evidence of something illegal happening, I wouldn't be scared, I'd make sure I acted on it, and brought it to public attention.

If something is true it isn't libellous.

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exactly ive discussed some issues on here regarding kazi so if they are not true he will get someone to respond.

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if only you could afford other poeple that opportunity without making sneering remarks. i dont know you but i find the little i do know of you very patronising

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From what I've seen of your posts you leave yourself wide open to be patronised and criticised, but one thing for sure you should not be terrorised by someone elected to represent us on the council. So if you have any facts to back up your tittle tattle take them to the authorities, don't just throw a few random words together on here and then get upset when someone asks you for proof.
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Re: Councillor Kazi Siddique - fir for public office
 

first of all i didnt say at any time i had proof legally spaeking. what i do know is what people from 3 SEPERATE organisations told me. it just confirmed the poular suspicions within the community. why would different people from different organisations say these things. also a close friend who would never lie to me in a million years told me about some awful things which i would not print in a million years. it would not only be hurtful but also libelous as nobody would testify. also im not upset because garinda wanted proof. i just find his general attiutude tiresome. i dont think hes concerned with getting to the truth he just thinks his opinion is more valuable than anybody elses. seeing as siddiq is being discussed why should i be able to diss him . if he has any problems he can challeng me on the forum. garinda doesnt hav to jump in for him