Harry and Iraq
 

I have seen a report saying that Harry is not afraid to die. Hmmmmm -- well, I reckon there is a great difference between being afraid to die and nor wanting to die. Even an uneducated chap like myself can see that Harry`s Troop is going to come in for " special attention" from the insurgents. I hope that the members of his troop are of the same opinion as he is.

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yep but al-queida was not there, i think that parents of serving soldiers should have an input into wether he goes, after all its their kids that could well be in more danger if he does. very tricky subject this.

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Theres as much chance of soldiers parents being asked for their opinion as i was about the smoking ban.When they sign up they know not to question orders whatever the potential outcome.Many brave soldiers have lost their lives because of someone higher up the food chain thinking he knew best & did'nt have to bloody his own hands....ask Tony Blair & George Bush.I say he should'nt go,though i was of different opinion before,if its going to increase the risk to others around him.You never know the Royals might not be giving him that ticker tape heroes welcome home they were hoping for.

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He is in the army so yes he should fight. If he gets killed then it will be a dreadful shame, just like when any of our armed forces are killed.

What's the difference between insurgents and freedom fighters?

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One mans terrorist is indeed anothe mans freedom fighter. I must say I agree with Flash though- personally not that concerned at the risk he poses to himself that is what he is in the army for BUT- the guys he is with will immediately be out at greater risk. the answer is quite simple dont let the royal family serve in the forces.
An even better sollution would of course be to not have a Royal Family at all- what a wonderful world this would be.

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I think the ideal posting if he wants to see Al Queda up close would be to send him as Tony Blairs "special military attache" as an observer at Guantanmo Bay concentration camp :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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they shouldnt of let anyone know he was going/gone till he came back, i blame the forces for letting people know.....silly people

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Well why be scared of dying , he loves the army and you shouldnt be afraid , once ya dead you cant feel the pain!

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Depends on your point of view comes to mind. Also the passing of the years can reverse the roles.

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Nelson Mandela; freedom fighter or convicted terrorist?

It is strange, with the help of historical hindsight, how we class terrorists.

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Yes WillowTheWhisp but he was flying a helicopter and not exactly in the line of fire.

That is a lot different to patrolling a hostile area.

However Remedi has voiced my view in that if there were no royal family there wouldn’t be a problem.

We assume that Harry chose to join the army rather than the navy or air force and we assume that he has more than marbles between his ears so he should go and suffer whatever consequences he will meet. He might take a few of the generals with him too. In fact his patrol should be made up of generals and not squaddies. That would sort of square the circle.

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also seem to remember that Robert Mugabe was hailed as a 'freedom fighter' who Margaret Thatcher described after dancing with him as the future face of African leadership.

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Was this in a Gentleman's Excuse Me, just after she'd danced with General Pinochet?:D

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One thing I wish to say about this subject, and only one, never mind poor Harry who has no control over his own destiny, I would like to see the two 'supermen' who's only interest was the security of the oil wells, put in the firing line and see how they intend to stop what they started!

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I agree. This country has announced it to the world at large. If Harry is too precious to go and do the job he's supposed to be trained for he should not have been allowed to join the army in the first place. To inform al quaeda and all the rest that he might go is just farcical.

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As a mother of a lad who has been to iraq already and afghan and who is soon to return to one of these zones for yet a second time (like the first time wasnt worrying enough) I dont think harry should go,
When i first heard the news i was all for him going and being allowed to put his training into action as he wished to but having seen the latter reports I personally think he will be putting the lads alongside him at a greater risk than ever, its not harry,s fault , hes a young lad wanting to do what hes been trained to do, but even he ,after the threats made against him should bow out and not go.. it has all been made far to public to put young lads lives at risk unnessesarily.
Its hard enough for the guys out there as it it without having to watch their backs even more with harry alongside them , im sure the forces could find a more suitable placeing for him at this moment in time without openly endangering others....

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This was exactly the point I was raising when I opened this thread.

Nowt to do with the issue of insurgents / terrorists / freedom fighters. -- call them what you want.

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Freedom fighters, my Aunt Fanny. Only if you consider Sharia a hospitable climate. Harry should go with his men. I don't consider him to be any different than others of his military rank. Yes, royalty is an anachronism. But as long as you still have them, they ought to fulfill their duty. English kings and other royals were always in the heat of battle in times past. What's the big deal now?

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Big yellow streaks in certain people in certain places.

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The "Big Deal" is explained in Cherokee`s post. With respect, if you had read the original post and Cherokee`s you would note that the concern was about the other Troopers in the squad and not about Harry.

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agree entirely owd bert, that was what i was alluding to in post3.

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Looks like he is a definate to go. Better be ready for the back lash and accusations that they are trying to do away with him.

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I did read the post. If the media would stop making Harry a frontpage story and announcing his deployment and whereabouts, maybe he could just go and do his duty and the men with him likewise. If not, then perhaps no future Royal should serve in the military.

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I believe that George Bush has two daughters, both in their early twenties. I would assume they are in the military; are either of 'em in Iraq? If not, why not?

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Cos he'd rather other people did his dirty work for him without his hands getting mucky:rolleyes:

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Probably for the same reason that Tony Blairs son (the one who seems so fond of the bottle) isn't there :D :D :D