Panorama Blackburn.
 

Tonights Panorama program features Blackburn and debates wether the town is racially segregated.
Should be food for thought.

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oooh interesting

but i'm gonna b at my poker club

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mani were do you play poker

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....:rolleyes: .....

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only lived in blackburn from january and it is racially segregated in my opinion

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what side is it on and what time? anyone know?

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8.30p.m. BBC 1

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cheers mitzy

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Same side as it's been on since it started in 1953, guess you dont watch many news programs :D :D :D ;) unless its about Jordan and her hubby
:D :D :D

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lol shut it you;)

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Might take a look just to be nosey and its Panorama so should be balanced.

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davo

its in manchester there's nothing like this around here

so far its interestin the programme

not bad

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They're talking to people in Blackburn now.

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white flight my arse, why the hell do they have to 'label' everything, that programme made out that all white people in blackburn are racist................TESTICLES

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I would not say it labelled white people as racist at all.

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:rolleyes: .....................

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[quote=flashytart;421021]white flight my arse, why the hell do they have to 'label' everything, that programme made out that all white people in blackburn are racist


i know it was really sensationalist. also tryiong to make out that asian people were also racist.

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no comment

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dont think it made out any one was racist just shows how people havent intergrated problem caused by bad goverment policies

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U can watch it online anytime willow at this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ma/6631541.stm

Scroll down to the bottom for link to watch:D

HTH

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Well, I found it quite even handed,though the comment by the Canon that he found Blackburn more divided than post apartheid South Africa(or words to that effect) were a little loaded.

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no your quite right willow, i am not racist myself, i have asian friends, indians and pakistani's...i will admit though i did vote for the bnp this year....yes this may be hypocritical of me, but there are many cultures who actually work for the bnp, asians included

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yes willow it is, and thanx mani for the bad karma :D i see you didnt bother asking for the reason why i voted bnp :D...

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the thing is mani, i have the balls to admit i voted for them, maybe there are people on here who do vote for them but would never admit to it

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watched it, didn,t tell us anything we didn't know, perhaps those in the leafy suburbs learnt a bit? White Flight was just cheap sensationalism by the media,nowt new there. the problem is about ignorance n intolerance on both sides, and until the tosspots on both sides i.e. polititions, n leaders of all faiths, get off the pot and talk/compromise the end result will not be very good for any buggar.the trouble is neither side wants to admit theres a problem, its NOT racist to admit there is so LEADERS- LEAD for once.:(

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in my opinion anyone who votes bnp well it says a lot more about them than the people they are against. its simple the bnp are just bigots preying on peoples fears

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each to there own spinner, and i'm very grateful for your opinion :D

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one thing i did notice was that a lot of the older white people in the programme seemed to blame asians for lot of the changes in british society. for instance the white lady who was objecting the asian march. she said that they wouldnt be allowed to have a christian march. isnt it the case that the white majority is secular these days. on the programme i noticed a lot of english people passionate about a footy match but i doubt wheather they would have organised a march celebrating the prophecy of jesus. are asians to blame for this decline i religion. even if there was no immigration in this country i doubt if there would have been a christian religios march. that lady was simply a disgruntled bigot

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hold on, white people DO march...they do march for jesus....most march through the streets for an easter parade

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flashy i just cant stand the bnp. they are just evil interested in nothing but power for themselves and derying other beliefs to acheive this power. i feel they use people

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Bit disappointing really, and didn't have anything new to say.

People have always lived with like for like. Rich people tend to live in rich areas, and poor in poor areas. London is made up of many different 'villages', each weith it's own cultural identity. Golders Green, Jewish. Kilburn, Irish, Southall, Asian. Earl's Court, Australians. Brixton, West Indians etc. To make out Blackburn was different from anywhere else in the country was journalistically weak. It was probably only chosen because Jack Straw is the M.P., and it gave them another easy sound bite, because of his veil comments earlier in the year.

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why was that women complaining then. so she must have been lying suggesting they wouldnt be allowed to do so by the authorities.

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i aint got a clue, ask her

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agree about the old lady,spinner, but notice they never took a comment from an asian elder? what was really disheartning was the young asian lad n his white friend (girl) who took that walk- both felt frightened n intimidated that should not happen anywhere and says to anyone theres a PROBLEM.

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i agree totally. thats panorama for you.

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True, it's about misapprehension. There is of course no law banning any religion, or church, from marching therough the streets. Infact it used to be quite a common site, especially at Whitsuntide. It's just that most Christians seem to prefer worshipping mammon at a mall these days.

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What's wrong with us tonight?:eek: :D

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cashman there are yobbish elements in all cultures. i ve seen people beeing called **** whore(as you can guess a reference to her choice of asian partner by white people). this was in the town center. if every yobbish action was on panorama....

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maybe weve just become integrated for a short while

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There are loads of places, parts of Blackburn included, where I wouldn't feel comfortable walking, and it's nothing to do with race, just common sense.

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i must addmit garinda people do not use their commen sense. everyone seems to get whipped up in emotion. just wish people could put their sensible hats on just like you and i

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Quick!

Have some karma, whilst we're both being harmonious.:) :D

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[QUOTE=spinner;421203]cashman there are yobbish elements in all cultures. i ve seen people beeing called **** whore(as you can guess a reference to her choice of asian partner by white people). this was in the town center. if every yobbish action was on panorama....[/QU OTE]well aware of that n detest it, tv will not sort anything out, just inflame things,as i said earlier we can pontificate all we want until the Leaders of all grasp the nettle, things will just deteriate.

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you should send me karma . im deserving of it after some of the dealings ive had wit you

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casman
its when the so called leaders get involved thats where the problems start. after all they just love programmes like this as they can be given jobs and funding to correct all the problems mentioned in the programmes. there have always been different cultures in different parts of town. as long as anti social behavior doesnt exist what is the problem?

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quite simply INTEGRATION. and i,m refering to whites n muslims, anti-social behavior happens everywhere nowt to do with races though yobs use that as a tool.

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hold on a minute...what about asians calling white people?

the incident with me, my mate and the kids walking through Queens park park last year was bloddy awful....we got told to '**** off white bitches, this is our park' and that was by asian children (previously mentioned in another thread) i was gobsmacked, but did i call them back? NO because i dont do that sort of thing, if this is the next generation, i'm sorry but i dont wanna be around to see it

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I don't blame bad government at all, well only for letting anyone who wants to enter our country unimpeded.
A good friend of mine recently moved out of his house in Blackburn he had been in since he was married. His reason, "because the Asians are moving towards this end of town. We are selling and moving before the house prices start falling in this area."

He moved to Chaigly so he should be safe from falling house prices for a while.

There are many racist and non racist people in Blackburn (I am still waiting for them to rename it Peopleburn). Different cultures are not integrating because they don't want to, not due to racism , in the main anyway.

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That's what I like, a lady of action but few words, did you beat the s**t out of them?
Oh no you can't as you would have been classed as a racist.

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It is illegal if you don't employ someone based on colour or race. What happens in reality is that asian people don't want to work in a mainly white company. How many white people have you seen in the halal butchers?

I think you are getting race and religion mixed up, or maybe I am.

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It put's me in mind of the Kipling quote, "East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet" Les if iv'e got it wrong i'm sure you'll put me right.:D. the two religions are not, and will never be compatable the same old story, religion is the reason for this problem and many more in the world today!

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i wonder, is there any asian on accyweb??

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If you had been a grandad you might have had a gun shoved in your face and been robbed. :mad:

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see asians never get called racist when they act in that manner.............why?

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good question flashy, id like to know that too

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it infuriates me, if we call them names we get prosicuted for it, but it NEVER works the other way round

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That is the perfect question you never see the other race get done for being racist always the whites no wonder we never mix with each other! one rule for them! another for us! It gets me mad!!!!:mad:

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That's a complete fallacy. The laws of the land, including the race relations act, are applicable to everyone.

Here are two examples of people being convicted of inciting racial hatred, neither of whom are white, and there are plenty more, if you care to search.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4690224.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoonpro...944270,00.html

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There is a perception that asian's get away with things whites don't. Look at cars they drive with 4 kids in the back parked on yellow lines etc

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oh how pathetic.these comments coming from a supposed grown man.
so you would be targeted by a group of morons because of your colour. deep down you know that typical anti social morons(asian and white) target the decent asian community as well. i went to a asian mela in bradford and was faced with obscene comments.i wasnt exused because i was asian.

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now your talking bull****, it seems this is becoming a tit for tat thread

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my friend is a is a sergant in darwen police few months back he pulled an asian guy up for doing 70 miles hr down a one way street the wrong way .it was also a 30 miles hr zone .the lad got out and said you have only pulled me up because of my colour .

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see, they get away with it, come on spinner, what would be YOUR view on that?

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willow stop splitting hairs

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I'd just like to know if what you claim is statistically accurate or just what you perceive to be the case due to reports in the media which after all have to be sensational enough to sell newspapers. I don't believe we should stereotype people. I once met an American who thought all English people stopped working at 4pm and had cups of tea and cucumber sandwiches! :D

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lol.....willow who you talking to love?

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So you don't listen to the local news about a man having a gun shoved in his face in Queens Park and told to empty his pockets?
Did I mention colour or race? No, I just made a comment suggesting Flashy was lucky it was only verbal abuse so received.

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some folk ay

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I'm from Blackburn and I'm not a racist testicle.

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no he did noy get off with it. but how can you compare speeding up a one way road the wrong way at over twice the speed limit

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lol i didnt call anyone a racist testicle pmsfl...and im from blackburn too

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Yeah well, for the record I'm a very liberal testicle who loves his fellow man regardless of color. Not that I'm gay.

I should also point out that I'm not anti-gay too, as the above statement may be seen as slightly homophobic. I'm just not that's all.

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there ya go love, dig yersell a little deeper ;)

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What are you trying to say, I have a thing against spades. Okay so I have a thing about gardening tools but you can't say that it's just spades. Rakes really annoy me too.

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oh dear it must be something in the water in blackburn

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:rolleyes:
lol.....are you being serious??

surely you aint:rolleyes:

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Panorama?Sorry the wife made me watch 'The life of Mr Polly'.If its any consolation i did'nt hear or see any racism throughout this adaption of the H.G Wells novel.But i fell asleep after 1/2 hour:o

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Totally serious, I almost took my shotgun to a lawnmower once because it looked at me funny.

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Blackburn, as cities go, is a bit of a dump anyway, so the 'white exodus' is understandable for reasons other than the large population of asians.

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unfortunately margaret blackburn never got city status, even though it has a cathedral

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Glad to hear that - it must be nicer to live in a hut in the Outer Hebredes

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eh?:rolleyes:

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It was nice to see Margo Grimshaw on the program from Bar owner to Town spokesperson,not bad!

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I know. What was rent a quote Margo doing on there?

From Saloon Bar to elder Stateswoman of the community.

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after reading all the above posts about the Panorama tv program about 'white flight' (I watched it on-line) I would like to add my thoughts about it ........two of my dearest long time friends, she was raised up Springhill, he up Ossy, honest decent working class folk, after getting married in the early 70s they bought a house on Park Rd. in Accrington and started to raise a family , in the early 80s they decided enough was enough the youngest a little girl had started to attend the local primary school and like all little girls had a few toy dolls at home and like all little girls gave them names , the only problem was that all the names she was giving the dolls were 'ethnic' names, the names of 75% her classmates. So what happened ? they ended up in Australia , it would be interesting if the BBC Panorama team could do a follow up and travel to places like Australia and New Zealand and track down immigrants from north west towns who moved out there in the late 70s and 80s and ask them if 'White Flight" had any influence over there decision to leave their homes and families and try to make a better life for their children half way around the world . No way can I describe them as racist in any way whatsoever , but they just wanted to raise their children in a 'British' culture it was a quality of life issue .

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Don't hold your breath Willow, it might be a long time coming. The main problem is the way they make us seperate and collect our rubbish in all those bags and boxes that allow rubbish to blow everywhere. I thought one of the main ideas of wheelie bins was to stop rubbish escaping onto the streets. HBC have used them as a way of limiting non recyclables and forcing us to recycle. They quote a high percentage of waste that can be recycled so, only a small percentage should be going into the wheelie bin. The rest is spread across the footpath waiting to be blown away.

Come on Peter pull your finger out and look how they do it in the Ribble Valley. They have 3 small wheelie bins collected every week. 1 for recyclables, 1 for non recyclables and 1 for green garden waste. They is no litter where my parents live because there is nothing to blow away.

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How about getting the camcorder out and putting a video on you tube. You can then post a link and email it to a couple of councillors and HBC refuse manager, maybe the Telegraph and Observer as well.

Does the rubbish not fall out because the wheelie bin lids are not shut?