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Hydrogen power = produces water as an exhaust product

BBC World Service - Business Daily, Hydrogen- fuel of the future?

But it has its own difficulties...

BBC News - Hydrogen's energy promise improves

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So how do you get to your favourite walks? Ah, you must walk it or cycle it!
No? So fossil fuel is a long way off dead for you.


Come on susie- you're a scientist. You know full well cheap and freely available hydrogen power is decades off. We can use it to produce power but we can't make it without using far more power than we get back. And how do we make it- break down water using- guess what!
Methane- it's only 12% hydrogen, needs expensive processing and what do you do with the 88% global warming gas you're left with.

Green campaigners are deluding themselves and condemning the rest of us. They're condemning us to less energy, more expensive energy, the loss of all power hungry industry in the UK and a massive drop in our living standards.
China is opening 2 new coal fired power stations every week and they all burn the poorest, lowest grade, most polluting coal(bituminous) available.
India plans another 450+ as soon as possible.
We only have 17 large coal fired stations and we are closing them. China will have replaced them in 2 months.
Do you think our pitiful 20% efficient wind turbines are going to make a jot of difference to that sort of CO2 output?

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Of course I do, I was merely putting it up for Margaret to look at.

No but it's better to do something than nothing. I wish the powers that be would get their act together and get on with nuclear and tidal otherwise the future is pretty bleak.

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You didn't understand the video, even if you watched it:(

He generated it too.

PS http://www.damninteresting.com/teslas-tower-of-power/

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Well, that explains it then....I have never lived in a house which had this kind of heating, but when I was working I had colleagues who used this form of heating.

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No...Sue....I don't think it was that.......it was water under pressure(I wish now that I had paid a bit more attention - but I was pre-occupied with other things, namely tinlids) and it was someone who had done all the work on it in his garden shed......a lone genius.
I'm sure I didn't dream it.

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No, MargaretR, I didn't watch all the video, life is too short.
But I watched minute 23 to 29 and used up a large piece of what's left of my life reading the Wikipedia info.
A brillliant man but some of his ideas very far out.
If you watch that bit of the video again it's talking about transmitting massive amounts of power wirelessly from the mast, not generating it. It never claims he created power from the earth- all the power he generated came from-guess what, mains electric power or mechanically driven generators.

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Here's some water fuel ideas...

List of water fuel inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This one's a fraud...

Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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He claimed that it was possible to tap scalar energy from the ionosphere

Nikola Tesla - Wardenclyffe Tower - YouTube

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Sue the story I am talking about is as recent as last year....but I'm damned if I can find anything out about it......mainly because I didn't pay enough attention at the time it was on TV....and No, it wasn't April !st last year:)

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i cant believe that a country surrounded by water hasnt invested in hydro power but instead has blighted the countryside with windmills that cant be used if its too windy and useles sif not windy enough

someone somewhere paid a very large backhander to get windmills chosen if you ask me lol

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spot on accyman...it isn't really about green energy,saving the planet...it is about making money.

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Since Gordon doesn't believe that electricity can be generated 'out of thin air', I submit this for his perusal ;)

Video Proof of Concept - YouTube

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Oh dear, MargaretR. You've done it again!

His antenna is simply picking up EMR from a local radio or mobile phone mast. He may even be under a high voltage overhead power supply.
He's not generating anything!

We're not going to power the world that way.

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There is electricity in the atmosphere.

You believe what you want to believe.

I suspect that harnessing it is possible, and Tesla found a way.

The more I read about the devious way that his research notes were seized and disappeared at his death, the more I suspect that the new technology was a threat to the fossil fuel multinational companies.

Tesla Generator Plans
extract -
"unlike solar panels that only emit energy when placed under thе sun, thе Tesla generator uses thе sun’s radiation instead. This means that it works even in thе night, or even when it is not under thе heat of thе sun. This is because thе sun is continually radiating energy into thе earth, which is continuously emitted even in thе night.
The Tesla generator proves that thеre is so much energy in thе atmosphere and that you do not have to rely solely on thе electric companies who make so much money from you."


PS- the world isn't flat;)

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Well that webste isn't giving anything away for free...

It is difficult to find some solid copies of how to develop a Tesla generator. It is said to have been kept from thе public by thе multi-billion electric companies, with thе fear of people finding out how to create thеir own source of electricity. You will have to purchase an e-book that contains all thе Tesla generator information that you need in order to set-up your own device. With thе Tesla Generator, what may seem impossible may be a very promising way to save on electricity.

Nikola Tesla Secret - Exposing Tesla's "FREE Energy" Device

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I hope you have one of your famous videos/websites to prove that!

Thank heavens for a little sanity, sue.
So for only $47 we can all save hundreds of dollars a month! Hundreds of thousands are doing it!That's a lot of $47!
Sell your shares in Eon, Norweb etc. now.

I think we owe MargaretR a debt of gratitude-when she confirms her flat is powered by free electricity.
l'll lend her the $47 if necessary, she can pay me back with all that money she saves.

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I would like to see one of these set ups by one of the hundreds of thousands of folks that purchased the info. But I can't be @rsed to search the www to find one. You'd think if it was so wonderful it would be a perfect small business opportunity for someone to pursue to convert one home at a time to free elec - at a price, of course.

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So a couple of Bulldog clips latched onto your neighbours main junction box doesn't count ??? :idunno: :)

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It does until they catch you;)

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Jaysay beat me to it-it would be a brave man who clipped one bulldog, never mind two!
Still, clipping a bulldog might be a better way of generating a charge than some of MargaretRs ideas.

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If you wait until after kicking out time they can be quite amenable. :rolleyes:

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Do you still have all your fingers and other appendages after clipping the bulldog?:eek:

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that meter reading hit 20v which is enough to charge most laptops :D

i think that particular phone he charged only needs 5v

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Coud have some legs as a phone charger for walkers/campers like myself.
Most mobile phones can be charged via usb and thats only 5v if I remember correctly

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Its all about the current though

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This idea is nothing new, crystal radios don't need a battery and have been around since 1904. I made one when I was a kid. They are explained here Crystal radio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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If you catch up with me sometime Barrie, I'll get you a pint & show you the scars. :)

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stick a scone on it then :D

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NASA have had a rethink about CO2.
It actually reflects heat from solar emissions back into space, and thus prevents global warming.

Principia Scientific Intl | New Discovery: NASA Study Proves Carbon Dioxide Cools Atmosphere

Maybe that 100 years supply of coal we have is 'black gold'. :D

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But we haven't got any coal miners

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Margaret, for once, you and I are in agreement.:D