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ploppysirploppy 19-06-2007 16:24
Council Houses
 
Just read in the paper about how the government have to build more council houses..... Tell you what, instead, tell people to stop having children too young, find contraception and grow up, get a god damned education, get a career and a life... Simple.
Lea
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***Mr D*** 19-06-2007 16:30
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What has that got to do with building more council houses?

Probably more to do with, People cant afford to get on the property ladder and are forced to rent.

Lilly 19-06-2007 16:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 437344)
Just read in the paper about how the government have to build more council houses..... Tell you what, instead, tell people to stop having children too young, find contraception and grow up, get a god damned education, get a career and a life... Simple.
Lea
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It seems to me that she thinks all occupants of council houses are uneducated dobbers.:confused:
Seriously,I agree that the rising property prices have priced a lot of people,particularly first time buyers,out of the market.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 16:44
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I had an education, a career, and a child, all at the same time. I am eternally grateful that in my old age I got the chance to have a council flat.
The housing price bubble will burst soon, because they are now unaffordable for 1st time buyers (even people in well paid jobs struggle). When there is no-one at the bottom to buy, the buying chains freeze to a standstill, and prices will drop.
More 'social housing' will enable the elderly (such as me) to downsize and free up larger homes for families.

***Mr D*** 19-06-2007 16:45
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Also to add I would love to live in a council house, if there was one available and in a good area.

Fair rent, much better that Private rented housing.

In this area most cheap housese are being bough by landlords, if the trend continues there will be no hope for us first time buyers.

ploppysirploppy 19-06-2007 16:50
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Of course I don't think all occupants if council houses are what I said... But apparently there's a 2 million on the waiting list for council houses, so they have to build more.... which tax payers wil have to pay for... It wouldn't hurt to teach the generation to fend for themselves a little more instead of having hard working people paying for it
Lea
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I'm not talking about the elderly either

MargaretR 19-06-2007 16:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 437371)
Of course I don't think all occupants if council houses are what I said... But apparently there's a 2 million on the waiting list for council houses, so they have to build more.... which tax payers wil have to pay for... It wouldn't hurt to teach the generation to fend for themselves a little more instead of having hard working paying for it
Lea
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Tenants will be paying rent - they arent free :) - so the cash outlay will have its returns.

davo69 19-06-2007 16:56
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i have worked since i waas 15 and have always payed my way iam in a council house so what you trying to say

***Mr D*** 19-06-2007 16:57
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Someone on benefits can claim for housing benefit for any rented house, not just council houses.

ploppysirploppy 19-06-2007 17:02
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I really don't know what I'm saying... I'll shut up... I've realised what I've said and totally got confused with things.
Nevermind, I'll get back to being a stupid teenager... :s

Royboy39 19-06-2007 17:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 437371)
Of course I don't think all occupants if council houses are what I said... But apparently there's a 2 million on the waiting list for council houses, so they have to build more.... which tax payers wil have to pay for... It wouldn't hurt to teach the generation to fend for themselves a little more instead of having hard working people paying for it
Lea
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I'm not talking about the elderly either
Yet another 18 year old out of reach of reality.
Is there a chip that is implanted for sale that can be purchased to come out with this rubbish?

norwich stanley 19-06-2007 17:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 437371)
Of course I don't think all occupants if council houses are what I said... But apparently there's a 2 million on the waiting list for council houses, so they have to build more.... which tax payers wil have to pay for... It wouldn't hurt to teach the generation to fend for themselves a little more instead of having hard working people paying for it
Lea
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I'm not talking about the elderly either
What a load of old rubbish! I have worked for about 20 yrs and still bring up a child on about 260 pounds a week.As far as i know housing associations put up the houses then rent them out,so why are hard working people having to pay for them?

ploppysirploppy 19-06-2007 17:09
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I just told you I got my wires crossed

MargaretR 19-06-2007 17:09
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Every new generation needs something to get angry about - In my day it was 'ban the bomb' :D

norwich stanley 19-06-2007 17:10
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Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy (Post 437635)
I just told you I got my wires crossed
Sorry i hadnt read that when i posted:)

blazey 19-06-2007 17:28
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Most elderly people really appreciate council houses. The areas where those type of house are (bungalows with the railings outside) type house are worth the money and let elderly people keep their independance.

Its a general misconception by some adults aswell that have a good job and education and a house in a nice expensive area that council house dwellers just have no education or jobs. Its not just students who make mistakes with conceptions like that, alot of the time its their parents who have given them these ideas.

ploppysirploppy 19-06-2007 17:58
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I can assure you my parents have said no such thing to me....

lancsdave 19-06-2007 17:58
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:):)...................

entwisi 19-06-2007 18:39
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My mum is currently trying to escape from her 'owned for 54 years' house into council accomodation up near me so I can care for her more easily. We've been told the waiting list is > 70 years. The reason she needs to move are manyfold but one of the biggest is the number of yobs that have moved into what was a nice area, with music blaring till 3-4 am, drinking and the noise/behaviours that that brings etc.

Neil 19-06-2007 20:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 437366)
Fair rent, much better that Private rented housing.
That's true, private landlords are more like modern day highwaymen

davo69 19-06-2007 20:10
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i think council houses are becoming more desirable than a lot of private landlord houses councils are kicking more and more people off the estates and they then end up renting wich then wrecks streets that were once nice and private

WillowTheWhisp 19-06-2007 20:13
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Some of the private landlords are sharks too. They don't take maintenance seriously and expect top rate of rent for some decrepit old ruin.


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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 437636)
Every new generation needs something to get angry about - In my day it was 'ban the bomb' :D
You knew where you were with 'ban the bomb' :D

blazey 19-06-2007 21:30
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 437746)
Some of the private landlords are sharks too. They don't take maintenance seriously and expect top rate of rent for some decrepit old ruin.

That sounds like my mums landlord. Waste of space she is too. They always try to send out their friends as plumbers and stuff to do maintenance checks on the boiler :mad: we stopped letting them in.

mallard 19-06-2007 21:47
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well i must agree there are teenager,s are haveing children nower days and this is why i think the house,s are hard to get and you are put on a long waiting list for them so ,i think this is why they are trying to put more home,s up as fast as they can.

blazey 19-06-2007 21:55
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Originally Posted by mallard (Post 437808)
well i must agree there are teenager,s are haveing children nower days and this is why i think the house,s are hard to get and you are put on a long waiting list for them so ,i think this is why they are trying to put more home,s up as fast as they can.
it'd make sense to make flats though for single mothers with a baby. why waste space building houses when they could build a massive block of flats in accy for single mums with babies.

:D

WillowTheWhisp 19-06-2007 22:05
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There is no council property in Accrington.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 22:06
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Flats are not suitable for housing anyone with young children-
1- how do you get a pram/pushchair up a stairwell when the lift breaks down
2- children and balconies/high windows are hazardous
3- babies cry, naturally, and flat dwellers need to take care with noise levels.

Lilly 19-06-2007 22:07
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Is there not? That's surprising.I thought there would be some.:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 19-06-2007 22:11
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There is ex-council property.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 22:14
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I am in an ex council flat - Hyndburn Homes is a housing association which took all council housing over in 2006

blazey 19-06-2007 22:19
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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 437830)
Flats are not suitable for housing anyone with young children-
1- how do you get a pram/pushchair up a stairwell when the lift breaks down
2- children and balconies/high windows are hazardous
3- babies cry, naturally, and flat dwellers need to take care with noise levels.
Do you really think the councel care that much about it?

The only thing that would be a problem in my opinion is the lift idea, which is easily solved by well maintained lifts.

The noise would be just as bad in a row of terraced houses.

Maybe we could build bungalows then for the old people and the teenage pregnant girls.

I dont really think the councel really think into much depth about what people really want, as long as they are housed and not a statistic adding to homelessness.

Not like they dont manipulate that aswell though.

WillowTheWhisp 19-06-2007 22:21
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Sound travels through floors and ceilings in flats a lot more than it does through the walls of terraced houses.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 22:26
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 437854)
Sound travels through floors and ceilings in flats a lot more than it does through the walls of terraced houses.
I have reason to disagree with that. When I lived on Barnes St Church the walls dividing houses were not cavity walls and I got more noise disturbance there than I do here.
That is something to ask about if you ever are contemplating buying a terraced house.
Here the flats are occupied by singles and if there is noise they dont mind being told, and take heed. There are always headphones :) - ideal for a quiet life with your own sounds.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blazey (Post 437851)
Do you really think the councel care that much about it?

The only thing that would be a problem in my opinion is the lift idea, which is easily solved by well maintained lifts.

The noise would be just as bad in a row of terraced houses.

Maybe we could build bungalows then for the old people and the teenage pregnant girls.

I dont really think the councel really think into much depth about what people really want, as long as they are housed and not a statistic adding to homelessness.

Not like they dont manipulate that aswell though.
Hyndburn Homes have a housing policy just as the council did - they do not want unhappy tenants any more than the tenants want to be unhappy. That is why some types of housing are designated for disabled and elderly and some for families. They have more sense than you credit them with.

WillowTheWhisp 19-06-2007 22:39
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We have some nice solid walls in our houses here. I never hear a baby cry but I do hear music in the bathroom. A friend of mine who lived in a flat could hear every footstep of the woman upstairs. I suppose it generally depends on how well built the building is.

MargaretR 19-06-2007 22:42
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 437883)
We have some nice solid walls in our houses here. I never hear a baby cry but I do hear music in the bathroom. A friend of mine who lived in a flat could hear every footstep of the woman upstairs. I suppose it generally depends on how well built the building is.
Precicely that Willow. In Blackburn there are some single person flats that are converted semi detatched houses - glad the one I live in isnt!!

lindsay ormerod 20-06-2007 19:32
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I often hear my neighbours on both sides, but I am lucky to have a really good private landlord and I am staying put ! I don't mess him about with the rent and I keep the place relatively tidy and he makes sure any repairs are done on time and done properly . It's shame there aren't more like him .

Stanaccy 20-06-2007 20:50
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It did say nationally that they have to build more council homes.

Up here property and rent is a lot cheaper. Down in London where I lived 5 years ago I was paying £750 monthly for a 1 bed flat.
To buy a terrace it would have cost £140,000. Down there and when I moved to Oxford All me and my wife could afford was council accommodation (I was and am, earning and in the civil service, but the government pay means in most areas accommodation is unaffordable).

panther 21-06-2007 10:18
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maybe the council are gonna build more houses as well is because people cant afford to buy houses these days, so they have to rent! thats why there is more people on the list!

blazey 21-06-2007 12:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by panther (Post 438542)
maybe the council are gonna build more houses as well is because people cant afford to buy houses these days, so they have to rent! thats why there is more people on the list!
Thats been said already, though I think it is the obvious purpose really. They wont just be doing it for pregnant teens as they can be moved around from hostel to hostel because there are mother and baby/child ones and unfortunatly alot do end up doing that.

Yeh margaret aswell thats why I mentioned the noise of terraced houses. ours doesnt have the cavity thing ither and its just echoes everything through and my neighbours have dogs that bark all the time.

Luckily we're on a corner so its just noise from one side of neighbours though!

lancsdave 21-06-2007 13:00
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The council won't build anymore houses for the simple reason they don't do council houses anymore.

Social housing is built by the various housing associations and don't Hynburn council currently have a block on building new houses, preferring instead for the HA's to renovate/convert old housing ?

blazey 21-06-2007 17:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 438599)
The council won't build anymore houses for the simple reason they don't do council houses anymore.

Social housing is built by the various housing associations and don't Hynburn council currently have a block on building new houses, preferring instead for the HA's to renovate/convert old housing ?
When people refer to council housing I think they are actually referring to the various housing associations. I know we always refer to association houses as 'council houses' where we live.

panther 21-06-2007 17:41
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housing associations are nowt to do with the council!


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