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mani 29-06-2007 16:39

Car bomb found in london...
 
there's meant to be another car found too - not sure if its a bomb car or a getaway car...

A car bomb planted in central London would have caused "carnage" if it had exploded, police sources have said.
A controlled explosion was carried out on the car, packed with 60 litres of petrol, gas cylinders and nails, in Haymarket, near Piccadilly Circus.
An ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the green Mercedes, near the Tiger Tiger nightclub at 0130BST (1230GMT).
Two other areas of London, in Park Lane and Fleet Street, were cordoned off as suspicious vehicles were investigated.
City of London Police confirmed at 1700 BST (1600 GMT) that a stretch of Fleet Street was cordoned off between Fetter Lane and Ludgate Circus due to a suspicious vehicle.
Earlier a Scotland Yard spokeswoman said that Park Lane was closed at Marble Arch to Hyde Park Corner and a 200m cordon was in place.

blazey 29-06-2007 16:42

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 441784)
there's meant to be another car found too - not sure if its a bomb car or a getaway car...

A car bomb planted in central London would have caused "carnage" if it had exploded, police sources have said.
A controlled explosion was carried out on the car, packed with 60 litres of petrol, gas cylinders and nails, in Haymarket, near Piccadilly Circus.
An ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the green Mercedes, near the Tiger Tiger nightclub at 0130BST (1230GMT).
Two other areas of London, in Park Lane and Fleet Street, were cordoned off as suspicious vehicles were investigated.
City of London Police confirmed at 1700 BST (1600 GMT) that a stretch of Fleet Street was cordoned off between Fetter Lane and Ludgate Circus due to a suspicious vehicle.
Earlier a Scotland Yard spokeswoman said that Park Lane was closed at Marble Arch to Hyde Park Corner and a 200m cordon was in place.

I saw this in the Times but I didn't bother to read it. I don't know why people feel the need to make bombs but it seems its getting more and more of a problem.

andrewb 29-06-2007 16:51

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I was like, walking there last week :(

I guess we'll know more as it unfolds. Apparently another cars being examined now by bomb squad.

WillowTheWhisp 29-06-2007 16:54

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:( I hope this doesn't mean we are in for another episode.

mani 29-06-2007 17:00

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I THINK THE other cars are more cars they may have used to run away etc

garinda 29-06-2007 17:44

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We twice had our works do in Tiger Tiger in the Haymarket, the bar the bombs were left outside.

It was bad enough living with the IRA, three of whose bombs I heard go off, when I lived in London, as well as lone nutters like the nail bomber.

Nowhere is safe, but I'm so glad I don't live there now.

bullseyebarb 29-06-2007 19:29

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Just wait until they get their hands on nuclear materials.

blazey 29-06-2007 19:31

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 441876)
Just wait until they get their hands on nuclear materials.

who is they?! your not a personal friend of these people are you?! :eek:

shakermaker 29-06-2007 19:35

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 441788)
I don't know why people feel the need to make bombs but it seems its getting more and more of a problem.

This simply isn't the case.
The media is causing a widespread panic based on isolated incidents, making the public believe there's a heightened risk of car bombs or knife attacks or being shot or whatever incident it is that week.

cashman 29-06-2007 19:44

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 441879)
This simply isn't the case.
The media is causing a widespread panic based on isolated incidents, making the public believe there's a heightened risk of car bombs or knife attacks or being shot or whatever incident it is that week.

as it was a car bomb,i think the alert is well justified.

bullseyebarb 29-06-2007 19:44

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 441877)
who is they?! :eek:

Islamofascists.

blazey 29-06-2007 19:58

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 441884)
Islamofascists.

Oh do they have suspects? I didnt think they knew who it was yet?

Hate to say this but people from any other religion can make bombs lol and I was aware of white terrorists long before I was ever aware of islamic ones.

As for deviance amplification, I should've known better :( I just got exploited lol. 1 nil to you shakermaker

shakermaker 29-06-2007 20:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 441883)
as it was a car bomb,i think the alert is well justified.

I'm saying that a media panic that convinces people that car bombs will be everywhere - based on this isolated case - is not justifiable.

The incident is of course very serious, but people shouldn't worry any more than usual about car bombs turning up!
There won't be any more or any less around than usual. Guarantee.

blazey 29-06-2007 20:07

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 441891)
I'm saying that a media panic that convinces people that car bombs will be everywhere - based on this isolated case - is not justifiable.

The incident is of course very serious, but people shouldn't worry any more than usual about car bombs turning up!
There won't be any more or any less around than usual. Guarantee.

have you studied sociology by any chance? I just had an exam on this and now feel absolutely stupid that I fell for exactly what your pointing out :rolleyes: im so dim at times :D

shakermaker 29-06-2007 20:16

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 441893)
have you studied sociology by any chance? I just had an exam on this and now feel absolutely stupid that I fell for exactly what your pointing out :rolleyes: im so dim at times :D

I did, but I didn't do the topic of deviance. Dropped it after AS.

blazey 29-06-2007 20:42

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 441896)
I did, but I didn't do the topic of deviance. Dropped it after AS.

Shame you probably would've done better at it than me in the exams, but I dont want to go off topic with the stupid mistake I made in this years theory and methods exam lol

bullseyebarb 29-06-2007 21:08

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 441890)
Oh do they have suspects? I didnt think they knew who it was yet?

Care to make a bet that it wasn't Islamic terrorists? Was London Bomb Plot Heralded On Web?, Internet Forum Comment From Night Before: "London Shall Be Bombed" - CBS News

blazey 29-06-2007 21:12

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 441915)

Please do tell me what would stop anyone posting something like that on the internet?

I could say I'm a jihadist and post something similar and nobody would question it because of the stereotypes we have today of linking islam believers with bombing/terrorists.

There are white terrorists aswell and terrorists of every race and religion.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. I don't condone what they do but its one of those things that is within every society, its not just an islamic ideology.

blazey 29-06-2007 21:16

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Oh yeh and the only form of gambling I do is scratch cards, not bets based upon stereotypes.

Gayle 29-06-2007 21:34

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 441891)
I'm saying that a media panic that convinces people that car bombs will be everywhere - based on this isolated case - is not justifiable.

The incident is of course very serious, but people shouldn't worry any more than usual about car bombs turning up!
There won't be any more or any less around than usual. Guarantee.


They've found a second one already!

Lilly 29-06-2007 21:39

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 441795)
I was like, walking there last week :(

I guess we'll know more as it unfolds. Apparently another cars being examined now by bomb squad.

Frightening isn't it? I was there about a month back to see a show.Thank God I'm not going this weekend.I believe a lot of the shows have been cancelled for this weekend due to the latest events.

magpie 29-06-2007 22:02

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Do we give in to them and stay at home... or do we carry on:

I have not been to London for a good few years or in large centers, I do not wish to put myself or kids at risk...

however they have won, in a way I guess if I don't carry on as normal...

what do you guys do ?

Wynonie Harris 29-06-2007 22:11

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 441951)
Do we give in to them and stay at home... or do we carry on:

I have not been to London for a good few years or in large centers, I do not wish to put myself or kids at risk...

however they have won, in a way I guess if I don't carry on as normal...

what do you guys do ?

I'll be going into Manchester centre tomorrow afternoon, as usual. I'm not brave, in fact, I'm an out-and-out coward. However, we never ever, ever give in to the murderous sods one inch...because, as so many people say, if we do, they've won.

Lilly 29-06-2007 22:15

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 441951)
Do we give in to them and stay at home... or do we carry on:

I have not been to London for a good few years or in large centers, I do not wish to put myself or kids at risk...

however they have won, in a way I guess if I don't carry on as normal...

what do you guys do ?

I know what you mean Magpie.That thought briefly crossed my mind when I booked the tickets but then I just thought to myself you can't live your life like that,you can't let them dictate where you go and what you do.You've got to visit these places if that's what you want and try to put it out of your mind.You never know when your number's going to be up so just enjoy life because you could go anytime and if you worry about it too much you'll become so panicked by it that you'll never visit a city,never go on a tube,never get on a plane,never cross the road,never leave the house.You'll finish up housebound.:)

cashman 29-06-2007 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 441891)
I'm saying that a media panic that convinces people that car bombs will be everywhere - based on this isolated case - is not justifiable.

The incident is of course very serious, but people shouldn't worry any more than usual about car bombs turning up!
There won't be any more or any less around than usual. Guarantee.

know where yer coming from shaker, my point is simple, it was outside a nightclub (for max impact probably) many young uns who have had a few no doubt, we all drop our guards on a regular basis, so its better to warn folk to be vigilant again.;)

garinda 29-06-2007 23:31

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The worst thing people have to live with is the disruption to their everyday lives.

All it takes is one plonker to leave his bag on the train, and the whole tube sytem closes down.

mani 30-06-2007 04:18

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see what gets to me is this. u got all these surveillance goin on. u got that place up nr harogate listening to us, watchin us type, readin our txt msgs and following us.

yet how were they discovered?

a drunk person who required ambulance treatment.

a traffic warden who didnt like where a car was parked.

yet all where was the intelligence?

steeljack 30-06-2007 05:02

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call me a cynical sod , but what better way to give credibility to a new "home secretary" , just look at how many different folks have held this job in last 10 years

Jack Straw (2 May 1997 – 8 June 2001) ‡
David Blunkett (8 June 2001 – 15 December 2004) †
Charles Clarke (15 December 2004 – 5 May 2006) ‡
John Reid (5 May 2006 – 27 June 2007) ~
Jacqui Smith (28 June 2007 –

seems to me none of them have had long enough in the job long to find out the name of the tea lady, let alone long enough to get a decent grasp of the complexities of the job , maybe it was ex PM Tony Blairs way of keeping the cabinet divided and confused about his and his masters (President Bush and Rupert Murdoch) policies on the 'war on terrorism' and an excuse to invade Iraq and possible future bombings of innocent Iranians
Would be interesting to read Greg Popes views about the constant cabinet re-shuffles and how it seemed whenever a cabinet Minister fell out of favour in Washington the Minister in question allways seemed to get a 'sideways/lateral' promotion

:confused: :confused:


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