Angry mothers over Madeleine advert - are they right to be angry or not?
 

Just come across this news article in the Times, basically the campaign for finding madeleine has now stretched to the cinemas and they showed it before a U rated film - shrek 3. As U rating is suitable for ages 4+, young children had to hear the story of madeleine, where as obviously some parents may have chosen to not tell them about the story for fear of frightening them.

Mothers protest over Madeleine advert before showings of Shrek - Times Online

So what's your view? I think its a bit wrong as obviously a story of a little girl being snatched is quite scary when your that size and defenseless, however as suggested in the article, I guess its fair enough for it to be shown to older audiences, yet I am still opposed for caring any more about this little girl than any other missing child in the world, so it wouldn't make me keep an eye out for her anymore than any other child.

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Dunno. Difficult one...

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It's a U rated film and these kids are taken there by their folks to have an enjoyable evening at the cinema: not be scared witless by what could happen to them if they are left alone. I cannot imagine what Madeleine's parents are going thru and wouldn't wish it on anyone but this is taking it all a bit too far, they should respect the right of other parents to decide what and when to tell their children; not ram it down their throats when they least expect it.

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I agree with Lindsay. It should be up to parents what, and how, they teach their children of life's dangers.

The little tots go to the cinema to be entertained, and could leave scarred for life after this.

Childhood is already too short, and measures should be in place to make it a happy place, before they grow up and realise what a cess pit we live in.

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I think they shouldn't have to see something potentially scary at the cinema, being snatched by a bad man is potentially the making of nightmares for young children that age, particularly when its so real in front of them.

Young children normally don't even see made up films about such things without them at least the parents being told its a PG film. As Shrek obviously doesnt involve a child being snatched, parents aren't prepared for being faced with such a thing and then put on the spot to explain.

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I am inclined to agree that the publicity in this case has far outweighed that of any other missing child. There are thousands of missing children out there and in some way the publicity about Madeleine may help to draw people's attention to the plight of other missing kids.
I do think that parents should be given the right to inform their own children about the dangers of this world without it being foisted onto them in the form of an advert. It seems that parental rights have been nothing but eroded over the last few years.
Therefore, I don't agree with this advert although it has obviously been made with good intent.

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It's wrong to show it before a U rated film. I have explained the story a little bit to my seven year old but not to my five year old. I certainly wouldn't like it to be thrust upon them when we're out for a fun afternoon out at the cinema.

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My granddaughter is 7 and she is aware of the missing McCann child's story. Naturally she sees it from a child's perspective and all she has said about it is, "Poor girl". She is aware of "stranger danger" but there are limits to what a child can grasp in a case like this.

I don't agree with an advert at the cinema, not for any affect it may have on children but because I really feel the public is being beaten to death by this campaign. I care deeply that a child has gone missing, we all care, but I don't care exclusively about this one above any others. God knows, we would all go to the ends of the Earth to find our own child if it happened to us but I don't believe making this a Cause Celebre is helpful, in fact I have a horrible feeling it's just the reverse.

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Without trying to wander off too much I hope parents are making children more wary than just being snatched by a man :rolleyes:

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How is a child anymore wary about this story? Its not teaching children to not talk to strangers and stay with mummy, its teaching them that a man may come in and snatch them out of their beds where they should feel safe. Hence my wording. Please tell me how little Madeleine being more wary of being kidnapped would have helped the situation? She didn't go up to a stranger and accept sweets or be lured away, she was tucked in her bed where she should've been safe. How can a child protect themselves from strangers in their sleep?

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think the polls a bit chauvanist, theres dads as well,;) but no-way do i agree with showing it at cinemas.:(

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I wasn't being specific to the original post, ( hence my statement about trying not to wander too much). I was making the point that when parents are telling children of stranger danger it should cover both sexes.

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I too think it is inappropriate to show this before a U rated film.It would be acceptable for much older children and adults but not for children as young as 3.You don't want that foisted upon them when you're out for a fun time at the cinema.My 6 year old has caught bits of the story on the news but I have been spared from having to go into too much detail.It's very hard to explain to a young child.We all try to make our children aware of the dangers around us without frightening the life out of them but the trouble with this sad tale is that Madeleine did nothing wrong.She didn't run into the road,get into a car or talk to strangers,she was snatched from her bed whilst asleep.I don't want my kids to hear stories like this.It should be up to the parents how much,if any,of this story they want to tell their children,not have it thrust upon them in a cinema.

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Oh ok, well sorry to have perhaps offended you. I suppose a man has took her or a group as if a woman had done it by now she would've been found or wouldn't be presumed to be in the hands of paedophiles. Women who snatch children seem to snatch children simply because they cant have their own for whatever and they eventually come to their senses. Obviously I was referring to the Madeleine story, not general abductions, though I believe that most children missing in THIS country on the missing childrens website have been snatched by either fathers refused access for whatever reasons or both parents who cant have custody of their child. Very few children are reportedly snatched by women unless it is there own mothers.

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To be fair, i can imagine 'stranger danger' and bits of the story may have been taught to children in school anyway, where they get taught about general out and about things like crossing the road and not talking to strangers, its not the cinemas duty for them to force it upon people for any reason.

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The advert was given a U rating.

I think its funny to see so many people against it yet if you look at all the comments on The Times website under the article the majority are angry that it got complaints.

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Not sure if I agree or not with the advert being shown I think I would have to see the advert first to make my mind up- so that being said probably not a good idea to show it as the decision to veto as a parent is taken away from you.

There is I feel however an inherent danger with labouring the STRANGER DANGER aspect to children- the vast majority of children who have been abducted/assaulted have some knowledge or awareness of the individual- they arent strangers. Ian Huntley for example was not a stranger to Holly and Jessica. I personally have educated my children 11 and 7 that if it aint mummy or daddy or a very select list of significant others then NEVER go with them.

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I do apologise, but only because I've said this before, the parents left her and her younger twins on their own whilst they went out and enjoyed themselves, whether it's 2 yards or 50 yards, when you are on holiday you make sure the children are safe, the party they were with could have had an adult supervising at all times.

Had that happened, the child would not be missing.

Once more I repeat I have every sympathy for the child, but none whatsoever for the negligent parents, had they been 'chavs' they would have been crucified by the press before they could explain, never mind introduced to the Pope.

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Think they know that better than anybody.

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The advert apparently told about Madeleines story, what happened that has led to the circumstances and description of how to find her, and the big picture of her face that you see on the campaign posters.

I think perhaps it said that she got taken from her bed whilst she was sleeping or something along those lines and thats why people got angry.

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No one know what has happened to Madeline McCann, and you playing amateur psychologist as to the sex of her abductors, really doesn't really help.

Although the majority of paedophiles are male, it isn't always the case. There was a woman last week in Scotland, found guilty of sexually abusing her daughter. Though rare, sadly not an isolated case.

Saying that if a woman had taken her, she would have been returned by now, is very naive.

The fact is, no one, including yourself knows what happened to this poor child.

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The police seem to think she has been taken by a group of people and seem to think she's in the hands of a paedophile network. I didnt see women arent guilty of kidnappings and sex offences, i said the majority of male and the motives behind women taking children are different, just as women tend to commit petty crimes such as shoplifting where as men commit robberies/burglaries more. Its not an amateur guess, its shown in statistics.

If you wanted MY theory, i think the family are actually involved in the entire situation but the topic isnt about that anyway, so we can thank lovely less for another thread having to go off topic instead of just giving an opinion like everyone else.

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You didn't say that, you said this...


'I suppose a man has took her or a group as if a woman had done it by now she would've been found or wouldn't be presumed to be in the hands of paedophiles.'

As stated earlier, neither you, nor the police know what has happpened to Madeline. Stop speculating.

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Please note as much as I may go off topic my member name is Less, not less.;)

P.S. I repeated an opinion that I gave right back at the beginning and had better people than you calling me cruel for it!

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YOU SURE?;):rofl38:

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Any evidence you can offer to back up this claim?


Or just some hunch, based on what you've read in some school text book?

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If you wanted MY theory, i think the family are actually involved in the entire situation - ----------yeh sure,they wanted an extended holiday n still had 2 kids left.:rolleyes: if thats what intelligance does for you today forget it.

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well thats the most daftest comment you have ever made on here:rolleyes:, did you not see the state of the mother when she first went missing???

what makes you think they had anything to do with it?:confused:

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you have lost the plot on this one what the hell gives you the right to acuse this family.yes they are guilty of leaving the children on there own .a lesson iam sure they didnt want to learn and i like less sorry LESS dont have much pittey for the parents.were are you getting your facts from .

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If it actually did say that and I had taken a small child to see the film I would have been blazing mad too. No wonder people have said it would give children nightmares. They could be imagining that someone would come and snatch them from their bed whilst they are asleep. They'd probably be afraid to go to sleep that night in case that happened. A very irresponsible thing to say to a small child.


Isn't it also shown in statistics that when women steal a child to keep as their own then it's usually a baby which they think they can pass if as having given birth to. Any woman would be pretty hard pressed to convince anyone that she suddenly had a toddler or older child when no-one had ever seen her with a baby or child before.

The fact that the police seem to think that she has been taken by a group of people and seem to think she is in the hands of a paedophile network (again we have only the evidence of the press reports to back this up) does not mean that the one who snatched her could not have been a woman. Sick as it may sound to you or anyone else women do actually assist the men they 'love' in some incredibly vile and deprived acts - and when you think about it a woman carrying a sleepy or even a crying child in her nightie is far less likely to attract attention than a man would. People would just assume it's the mother and the child had woken from a bad dream or something.

Could you elaborate on your theory of how the parents could be involved? That's a suggestion I haven't heard before.

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i think perhaps blazey needs to get the full storey before making sugestions

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I voted that they are wrong to complain, though I haven't seen the advert. I think that children of that age should have already been told, my 4 year old found out about it from the news though I were careful how I explained it to her, surely most parents will have told their children about it by now.

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i would have to see the clip first to really decide.

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Yeah, I agree, I also dont think they should go into detail, at this stage just a picture and the date she went should be enough really.

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If you look on the internet there's all sorts of ridiculous speculation that the parents involved in Madeleine's abduction.This is what led to that journalist asking the parents at a press conference what they thought of these comments being made against them.There are all sorts of stories flying around.One is that Gerry McCann went to check on Madeleine,found that she'd got up and had a fall of some sort and was dead so he's got rid of her body in a panic because he thought it would look better if it was thought she'd been abducted.Another story is that the McCanns are in financial difficulty and have sold Madeleine for money.They are saying that Gerry is involved because he was the last to see her.I think these theories are absolutely ludicrous and wouldn't believe them for a moment and I expect most sane people would feel the same but it must be very distressing for the parents to have to read such outlandish allegations against them.As Kate McCann said when the journalist asked them how they were feeling,they have been thoroughly questioned and the Portugese police do not think they are involved in Madeleine's abduction.

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Back to the advert......I would have to see it before commenting/voting on it.

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Don't forget that there are also nutters out there who think world leaders, including the Queen and President Bush, are actually lizards from outer space.

Such wild speculation shouldn't be given any credence. Facts should.

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It was turquoise.;)

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Turquoise is a kind of blue isn't it? :p

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my favourite colour willow!!:D

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After raising money for the search and publicity I dont think they can complain at all if some publicity is not quite to their taste. After all the time that has elapsed they should be thankful that there is still some publicity even if it has proved to be contraversial.

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I thought a friend of the family said she was the last to see the little girl, not gerry?

I haven't read any of the websites on it as an over publicised story tends to grow boring very fast when its the talk of every website. As I've said before, I just think the family are focusing too much on attention on themselves rather than the job at hand.

Discussing their breakfast for the day in the blog of them finding her isn't actually relevant you see and the section of their website thats meant to discuss madeleine just says age, height, the eye characteristic, then goes on to describe her family in much more detail and their jobs and hobbies etc. Just seems weird.

Whatever the situation, the little girl is missing but seeing her face on the big screen in the cinema is a bit OTT in my opinion, especially for a U rated film.

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The parents have said that Gerry was the last person to see her.They were taking it in turns to check on the children and when it was the mother's turn on the next check,Madeleine had gone.I think you are thinking of the family friend who said she saw a man carrying a bundle,which could have been a sleeping child,down the street around the time that Madeleine was thought to have been taken.It is unknown whether the bundle was Madeleine,or even if it was a child.

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AH ok, obviously people have been following the story with more interest than me, as I get the details jumbled up, plus with my poor short term memory, im not much use at recalling something unless i've found reason to apply it to something else.

I dont even think my 8yr old sister knows about what happened to that little girl. Dont think she's mentioned it to me anyway.