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hi did you no that P Britcliffe from hyndburn bc in his allowances got 22.565.72 this last year Also that M Pritchard got just 1.00 you are the 1st tono

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No I didn't know that but I am sure everyone will after Fridays Observer comes out.

I would expect the leader of the Council to claim the most expenses, wouldn't you?
Without seeing a full breakdown of that £22.565.72 how can anyone say it is excessive, which is what you are obviously hoping people will say?

Why did Cllr M Pritchard not claim anything else? Did he fill the form in wrong? :rolleyes::D Maybe he earns enough money to not need payment for all the many hours I would expect him to give up doing his duties. I know I could not afford to do what is at least a part time job for nothing, could or would you?

I do hope you are going to carry on this conversation and you are not just trying to stir up trouble like so many recent new members.

Sorry if I appear to be a little hard on you but we have had some right idiots join AccyWeb recently, I do hope you will prove to not be one of them and will carry on posting with the rest of us.

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They are all allowed a certain amount of allowances. Some people feel that it's wrong to claim them. I don't see the point in not claiming and being out of pocket.

Much as I disagree quite often with Cllr Britcliffe's policies, I am aware that he puts in a heck of amount of time working for the council. As does Malcolm Pritchard but just because Malcolm doesn't claim expenses doesn't make his work more worthy!

The only way to get younger people onto the council is to make it attractive enough to compensate them for all the other things they'd miss out on.

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would it be ill of me to assume
that you fly the flag of m pritchard
and not the flag of p britcliffe

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I have no problem with councillors claiming expenses, In the old days the only people who could afford to serve on the Council were the self employed/ employer classes, this lead to nepotism and in some cases downright corrupt practises. If the payment of expenses leads to attracting the best talent so be it, £22.000 is not a great deal of money for the right people most of who could earn far more on the 'open' job market.

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i can live with that.:)

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I guess what the point of the post was... kinda backfired though hasn't it :)

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:kinda what i was thinking.:)

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Do councillors have to declare their other income from occupations and investments/interests (as MPs do)?

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I think they do. There was a bit of a kerfuffle when it was alleged that Peter Britcliffe didn't declare an interest when the bus station was moved, and the new position of said bus station might benefit custom at his frock shop.

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Are you Malcolm Pritchard?

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In case you didn't know Peter Britcliffe's 'frock shop' is now an ice cream parlour.

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Yes I did know.;)

Though at the time of the bus station move he was still in frocks, so to speak.:D

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I hope they were tasteful and not like what the trannies on Little Britain wear :D

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They were very ladylike...for ladies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/littlebr...digi/emily.jpg

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I am conjuring up a vision of PB in a frock - which colour do you think would suit him best?

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Yellow stripes might be his favourite colour when dodging issues. :D

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Not necessarily spent as such - from what I understand they get a basic allowance which all councillors get, then they get extra if they have a cabinet post. That, of course, means that it's only Conservatives at the moment who have the larger basic allowance. Then they get additional allowances for being part of certain committees and attending certain meetings. Clearly, the leader of the council is going to claim the most because he's going to be on most committees as well as getting the basic allowance and the basic leaders allowance.

What all this doesn't take into account is the amount of time they put in for their constituents. They are 'on call' every minute of the day, and some people wouldn't hesitate to ring at all hours of the day.

I had to pop into the council offices yesterday and whilst there I bumped into four councillors. This was the middle of the afternoon so obviously none of them were earning money elsewhere.

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Partly I think so yes. How much would you expect someone running Hyndburn to get paid as a full or part time job? I wonder what the top Council officers are paid?

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They have to be suitably qualified...unlike our councillors.;)

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And the qualifications are ?

Do they have to submit a C.V.. ?

Go on Garinda ... you good at this, lay down the necessary qualifications ..:D

I'll start:-

Question 1: In your opinion, is it necessary to have the talent to spin words to appear as if you are only spending a small amount of money on projects, such as re-branding, when in fact only 'towards' the costs, therefore, conning the voters (had to get that in somewhere :D)

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(Question2.) can you answer a voters question, with a question thats not relavant to what they talking about?;)

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Of course they have to be qualified, they have to be over 18 (or is it 21?). :rolleyes:

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The professionals who are employed by the council do have to submit C.V.'s, and go through the due interview procedures, just like any job.

The real power, and what actually happens politically, is decided by the councillors though.

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similar to what Blair did with the WMD report?:D

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Is Dobson gonna be investegated for his spending after them banners

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Not unless the person who did it goes and makes an offical complaint to the relevant authorities, according to the police.

The whole banner thing was a total waste of effort. If you are going to pull a stunt like this, you at least let people, or the press, know what your complaint is. Something this joker forgot to do, as we're still none the wiser.

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Is it a case of 'guess the gripe'? I think Gary.:D

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A little bird told me he ( Dobson) " allegedly" had some business interests (pubs) which never had any problem getting late licences etc; just a rumour at the mo but it might open a few cans of worms .

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Well thats what nasty rumours are intended for so it may well..

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It mighn't not be a bad idea if Councillor Dobson came on line and stated his case, if he has any trouble i'm sure the other Councillors on the site will enlighten him on how things 'work'.

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He has posted on the Lancashire Telegraph website in response to what people have been suggesting,and his wife has posted on there too.

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I disagree. It's not up to Cllr. Dobson to come on here and defend himself, it's up to the person who made the allegations to go to the authorities and make a complaint...if he/she has one.

This whispering campaign is just a cowards way of going about things.

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100% agree.. well said

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Gary you are dead right, I unreservably withdraw my last post.;)

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Yes I agree with you there:)

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Perhaps you could put a link.

Although, I'm with Garinda on this (see, we often agree), that if someone has some real allegations then they should formally come out with them to the relevant bodies. As it is, the banners could be the work of one disgruntled person who Cllr Dobson rubbed up the wrong way - this doesn't necessarily mean that the allegations have any truth in them. It's not for Cllr Dobson to disprove until something has been actually said for him to refute.

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Thank you.

I don't know Tony Dobson, but all this stinks to me.

If someone has an issue with the man they should have the guts, and the strength of their convictions, to take it to whoever.

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I agree Gayle,and here's the link to the page where Tony and Trish Dobson have posted:)
Mayors Big Day Marred By Bizarre Protest (from Lancashire Telegraph)

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I could not agree more Rindy. Are you turning a little blue, this is the second Tory you have sided with in less than a week? :rolleyes:

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I have to say I concur with the majority here. If anyone has any allegations about him they should stand up and be counted or sit at the back and keep quiet.

There is nothing worse than rumourmonging without any evidence. It sounds spiteful petty and smells not a little of jealousy.

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even cashy cant argue this one:D 100% agree rind.:)