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jackyalex 20-07-2007 10:57

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Originally Posted by XxEmziexX (Post 451535)
i myself am a 13 year old and i think that 13 is too young to be having sex so they should not need condoms because they should only be learning about it not actually doing it i also have never even thought about having sex let alone done it


well said,but should you not be in school

panther 20-07-2007 12:39

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Originally Posted by XxEmziexX (Post 451535)
i myself am a 13 year old and i think that 13 is too young to be having sex so they should not need condoms because they should only be learning about it not actually doing it i also have never even thought about having sex let alone done it

a girl with a good head on her shoulders;)
you sound like my daughter;)

Tealeaf 20-07-2007 12:43

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If condoms are being given out to kids, then are they doing as they are in Germany, and giving them out in Children's sizes?

XxEmziexX 20-07-2007 12:45

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 451539)
well said,but should you not be in school

No, I go to Moorhead and we broke up yesterday.

panther 20-07-2007 12:45

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 451580)
If condoms are being given out to kids, then are they doing as they are in Germany, and giving them out in Children's sizes?

good point!

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 12:49

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I used to tell my daughter that the main aim of guys was to get into her knickers.......and advised her to carry a spare pair so that the said guy could do so without her getting into any trouble.

Ianto.W. 20-07-2007 13:04

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 451362)
To be honest, I cannot see any 13 year old thinking of having a child to save getting a job, which it seems you are suggesting - I apologise if I have misinterpreted the meaning of your words.

No you did not misinterpret my words, this was my opinion of the situation as I see it from a 'geriatric' point of view, I was generalising and you have turned it into a thirteen year old senario. Thirteen year olds are the exeptions not the rule, I was refering to the more 'mature' teenagers and young people who know full well what they are doing.:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 14:07

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 451116)
There are other reasons to go on the pill other than to stop pregnancy.

As for the effectiveness

Combined Oral Contraceptive Pill - claim 99.8%

Birth Control Questions - claim 98%

The Pill - Birth Control Pills - Oral Contraception at www.Birth-Control-Comparison.info from Cedar River Clinics - claim 92-99.7%

As I mentioned before using a condom + the pill is pretty much 100% effective.

Well speaking from the perspective of a Gynaecology Nurse with almost 30 years experience, I can tell you that these statistics refer to people who use these medications correctly....and even then they are questionable.
I have met so many girls and women who hav put their hand on their heart and told me that they have used the medication according to the manufacturers instructions, but on more close questioning they will admit to having had too much to drink....vomitting and thereby losing the effectiveness of the oral contraceptive....then not taking adequate other precautions(as advised in the literature contained in EVERY pack) for the prescribed length of time....hey presto pregnancy. Taking antibiotics which negate the effect of the pill and not taking other adequate precautions as advised on the literature in every pack....Having a dose of the runs and not taking adequate other precautions etc.
Mostly user failure....so there you go...not as straight forward as you might believe. Some women just cannot tolerate the oral contraceptive.......despite many changes of product. I could go on and on. The best and safest/surest way is to say NO !

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 14:08

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 451116)
There are other reasons to go on the pill other than to stop pregnancy.

As for the effectiveness

Combined Oral Contraceptive Pill - claim 99.8%

Birth Control Questions - claim 98%

The Pill - Birth Control Pills - Oral Contraception at www.Birth-Control-Comparison.info from Cedar River Clinics - claim 92-99.7%

As I mentioned before using a condom + the pill is pretty much 100% effective.

Well speaking from the perspective of a Gynaecology Nurse with almost 30 years experience, I can tell you that these statistics refer to people who use these medications correctly....and even then they are questionable.
I have met so many girls and women who have put their hand on their heart and told me that they have used the medication according to the manufacturers instructions, but on more close questioning they will admit to having had too much to drink....vomitting and thereby losing the effectiveness of the oral contraceptive....then not taking adequate other precautions(as advised in the literature contained in EVERY pack) for the prescribed length of time....hey presto pregnancy. Taking antibiotics which negate the effect of the pill and not taking other adequate precautions as advised on the literature in every pack....Having a dose of the runs and not taking adequate other precautions etc.
Mostly user failure....so there you go...not as straight forward as you might believe. Some women just cannot tolerate the oral contraceptive.......despite many changes of product. I could go on and on. The best and safest/surest way is to say NO !

panther 20-07-2007 14:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 451632)
The best and safest/surest way is to say NO !

.........and if ya cant and have a accident ...USE the morning after pill!!

jackyalex 20-07-2007 15:42

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Originally Posted by XxEmziexX (Post 451582)
No, I go to Moorhead and we broke up yesterday.

sorry emzie i thought everyone didnt break up till today :confused:

katex 20-07-2007 17:23

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According to news reports today, STD's and viral infections have increased by 2% over the last year amongst young adults and homosexuals, so not getting any better, is it ? Good news is Herpes is down.

Thing is when periods and hormonal changes begin to take place, this is the body telling you that you are ready to 'Go forth and multiply', but of course, due to social conditions and wanting our children to have a better education and fun before they settle down, it is not sensible to indulge in sex before 16 (just an age put on this by the Govenment to keep us in some sort of order).

But Emzie, from 13 - 15 years, not all teenagers find it easy not to succumb. Suppose a bit like having an itch and not being able to scratch it until you are 16, so of course, these things can happen and if they do, best to have the knowledge and ready available birth control methods to keep you from harm. I don't think it will encourage any young lady (course the lads will always be up for it) to have sex underage just because they have been handed a condom if they, like you are I am sure, have been educated in a moralistic and sensible way in these matters.

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 17:25

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Katex, well said! Educate about prevention of pregnancy, but also incorporate sensible moral principles.

garinda 22-07-2007 16:02

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There's a really interesting article in today's Sunday Times, for anyone who is interested.

The truth about gymslip mothers - Times Online


'Teenage pregnancy costs the NHS £63m, and if a young mother isn't in work or training for the first three years of her child's life, she will cost £19,000-25,000, the government estimates, apart from housing benefits, for which no figures are published. '

shillelagh 22-07-2007 18:21

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The only safe contraceptive is the word NO used in the right way and at the right time. Yes i have used it and it worked.

kathleen_firth 09-10-2007 15:10

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the fact is some 13 year old girls and boys are having sex
so yes it is a good idea giving them condoms

panther 09-10-2007 18:30

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would a condom fit a 13 year old???:confused:...
my daughter wouldnt dream of having sex and shes nearly 14!!

WillowTheWhisp 09-10-2007 18:53

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My eldest wouldn't and she's 16.

SamF 09-10-2007 22:41

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 479648)
would a condom fit a 13 year old???:confused:...
my daughter wouldnt dream of having sex and shes nearly 14!!

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 479654)
My eldest wouldn't and she's 16.

Hate to bring it to you but the only person who knows that is themselves.

panther 10-10-2007 08:50

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 479843)
Hate to bring it to you but the only person who knows that is themselves.

i KNOW my daughter she tells me EVERYTHING!.....;)

lettie 10-10-2007 09:34

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My mate's daughter used to tell her mother everything too. In fact, the only thing she neglected to tell her was that she was pregnant. My mate found out when her daughter was 32 weeks (she had hidden it well). My mate's daughter was 15 at the time..:o

panther 10-10-2007 09:41

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oh dear, i hope mine tells me, ive told her if 'it' did happen , that she has to tell me because i would think she would be terrified of me not to tell me!!....if ya know what i mean

lettie 10-10-2007 09:50

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I know what you mean...:D

My mate's daughter didn't say anything because she thought that if she ignored it, it would all just go away..:( I could have cried for her when she came to see me at work (without her mum). Even though at 15 she was more than capable of getting pregnant, she still had the childlike notion that ignoring it would make it all better.

Ianto.W. 12-10-2007 15:10

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Have they got a hole in the end? How are you going to get children wearing normal condoms:D


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