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jambutty 18-07-2007 12:54
Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Some hospitals up and down the country are now considering charging a parking fee for Blue Badge holders.:mad:

Is there no end to the money grabbing philosophy of some hospital trusts?:confused:

cashman 18-07-2007 13:02
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to be honest i dont believe there is a differance, patients,visitors, no-one should be charged in hospital car-parks,think i read somewhere a while back even staff get charged, if thats the case thats even worse.:(

Ianto.W. 18-07-2007 13:06
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
It is hard enough being disabled, without having to pay for the 'privilege' the, disabled person is more likely to need the hospitals services. These 'Trust' hospitals just seem to be a licence to print money for the funders.

cashman 18-07-2007 13:53
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what i do when they ring me for consultant appointments etc, i choose Gisburn Park, its a nice drive n free parking, then if yer admitted it is in that hospital,so if anyone comes to see ya (free Parking) aint stuck for a couple of quid, but its my little protest at these ridiculous charges, an it sure makes me happy.

MargaretR 18-07-2007 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 450811)
what i do when they ring me for consultant appointments etc, i choose Gisburn Park, its a nice drive n free parking, then if yer admitted it is in that hospital,so if anyone comes to see ya (free Parking) aint stuck for a couple of quid, but its my little protest at these ridiculous charges, an it sure makes me happy.
I have looked at the website for Gisburn Park -- private ---BUPA---!!!!
Are you a secret pools winner Cashy? :confused:

cashman 18-07-2007 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 450818)
I have looked at the website for Gisburn Park -- private ---BUPA---!!!!
Are you a secret pools winner Cashy? :confused:
I WISH lol no but they do NHS operations at gisburn, when doc refers you, NHS rings you n you are given a choice, also they state how long the waiting list is (Gisburn has been shorter in my experiance) so i just choose them,usually there is about 4/5 hospitals to choose from,i chose em first time n was well impressed with em,so i always pick em now, n so far its always been 1 of the choices,hope that explains.:)

MargaretR 18-07-2007 15:43
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I had surgery a couple of times in my 30's at Beardwood, but it was paid for by The Civil Service Sanatorium Society. The difference in standards between private and NHS was remarkable. Just having a private room is more condusive to recovery, and the food was good too - it all helps.

Busman747 18-07-2007 15:54
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Its ludicrous that charges should be made for disabled drivers at hospitals, in fact, I support cashmans statement that there should be NO charges! Trying to guess how long you are likely to be at the hospital to give a blood sample or perhaps an x ray is impossible - and in many hospitals, it is necessary to purchase a ticket BEFORE entering the hospital.

Most, (perhaps all?) hospitals use private firms to run the car parks so can hold their hands up and say: "now't to do with me" while collecting a fixed annual fee from the private company:mad:

jambutty 18-07-2007 16:47
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It wouldn’t be so bad if after overstaying in these Pay and Display car parks you could ‘top up’ your ticket when you get back late. But you can’t and get a whacking fine on top for being late back. It’s just yet another form of stealth tax on the long suffering public.

All hospital parking should be free, especially for hospital staff.

Think of it this way. If it costs a member of the hospital staff £50 a week to park to go to work that money has to come from somewhere. So they get a pay rise to compensate. This in turn takes away money from patient care AND into the pocket of the private firm running the car park. Is that where the millions of extra funds to the NHS are going?

Mr Aleks 18-07-2007 18:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 450859)
It wouldn’t be so bad if after overstaying in these Pay and Display car parks you could ‘top up’ your ticket when you get back late. But you can’t and get a whacking fine on top for being late back. It’s just yet another form of stealth tax on the long suffering public.

All hospital parking should be free, especially for hospital staff.

Think of it this way. If it costs a member of the hospital staff £50 a week to park to go to work that money has to come from somewhere. So they get a pay rise to compensate. This in turn takes away money from patient care AND into the pocket of the private firm running the car park. Is that where the millions of extra funds to the NHS are going?
If you over stay then you get fined. Everyone knows this so there is no excuse. And not being nasty but why should disabled people get it for free? My grandmother is registered as disable because of a dodgy arm she as but she parks and goes about her business fine.

Lilly 18-07-2007 18:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 450899)
why should disabled people get it for free?.
It would cost them a fortune.They will probably be regular visitors to hospital for one thing or another if they're disabled and they are on disability benefit because they can't work so do not have a lot of money to pay all the charges they would accrue from all their trips to hospital.

Mr Aleks 18-07-2007 18:21
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Well they have the badges dont they to use. So as far as i know they do get it free.

Lilly 18-07-2007 18:23
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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 450903)
Well they have the badges dont they to use. So as far as i know they do get it free.
Yes,they do get it free at the moment but, like Jambutty said in the first post in this thread,they are considering introducing a charge for blue badge holders.

WillowTheWhisp 18-07-2007 18:57
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I think you've missed the point a bit Aleks.

I agree that all hospital parking should be free. Not all people who need regular hospital visits are registered as disabled and entitled to the badge even if that is free for now. As has already been said people who need hospital treatment tend not to be earning and are therefore less able to afford all the parking charges.

As for 'If you over stay then you get fined. Everyone knows this so there is no excuse.' - that's all very well but if you have to pay in advance and you have an appointment for 9am this is not as simple as it may seem.

You estimate an hour - after all it's only a blood sample you should be in and out in minutes. So you park at 8:50 and report for duty.

You are asked to sit and wait. The receptionist tells you that the person who does the bloods will be along shortly. 'Shortly' passes, as does 9:00 and 9:15 - you ask at the desk.

You are told that you will be seen in appointment time order. You check with other people who are waiting and find that they too have an appointment for 9am. It is now 9:30. The 'bloods woman' arrives. The bloods woman disappears into another room.

She calls you in 'Hurrah!' you think, 'I will get back to the car before my ticket expires.'

Oh foolish, foolish optimist. It is now 9:45. You follow blood woman and she asks you to sit on another seat. You sit. You wait. You notice it is now 10am and your parking ticket has expired.

Blood woman reappears and you start to rise from your seat but she walks past you and calls someone else in from the main waiting area. At last she turns to you and asks you to 'come through'. You follow her. You notice it is 10:05. You mutter under your breath about parking fines.

You sit with arm in a clamp whilst countess Dracula extracts assorted blood samples. You notice it is 10:15. She releases you from bondage. You think perhaps if you sprint back to car park you will still manage to get out without a fine.

Blood woman asks you to 'wait a moment outside' - you wonder what is immediately noticably wrong with your blood as you wait in trepidation, yet still able to notice that it is now 10:30.

Bloody woman reappears with a smile and tells you you can go - not a word about what may have been the reason for staying. You notice it is 10:45.

You get lost on your way out of the hospital. You notice it is 11:00am.

You finally get back to car. You have a parking fine!

grego 18-07-2007 19:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 450859)
It wouldn’t be so bad if after overstaying in these Pay and Display car parks you could ‘top up’ your ticket when you get back late. But you can’t and get a whacking fine on top for being late back. It’s just yet another form of stealth tax on the long suffering public.

All hospital parking should be free, especially for hospital staff.

Think of it this way. If it costs a member of the hospital staff £50 a week to park to go to work that money has to come from somewhere. So they get a pay rise to compensate. This in turn takes away money from patient care AND into the pocket of the private firm running the car park. Is that where the millions of extra funds to the NHS are going?
I think that parking should be free for blue badge holders, I work at Royal Blackburn its costs around £7.80 a month for staff to park, thats a full time permit, not that bad really. Your comment about staff getting a rise to cover parking charges made me laugh, we are lucky if we get a rise that covers inflation. The car park is run by a private firm they fined me last month for illegal parking (not in a proper space) £65, £35 if paid before 14 days or £105 if I refused to pay, thats how they treat staff, however I appealed and was reminded of the terms and conditions and let off fortunately:)

Neil 18-07-2007 21:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 450787)
It is hard enough being disabled, without having to pay for the 'privilege' the, disabled person is more likely to need the hospitals services. These 'Trust' hospitals just seem to be a licence to print money for the funders.
Get a taxi then.

The rest of us have to pay so why should you get to park for free?

Neil 18-07-2007 21:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grego (Post 450937)
I work at Royal Blackburn its costs around £7.80 a month for staff to park, thats a full time permit, not that bad really.
It is ridiculous to charge staff to park at work. I have never had to pay to park at work. Where I work at the moment you park inside the secure car park with a card to get in and a big fence around it with cameras everywhere.

You forgot to mention that your £7.80 does not even guarantee you a parking space and that if it is full you have to pay to park on the other car park.

jambutty 18-07-2007 21:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 450899)
If you over stay then you get fined. Everyone knows this so there is no excuse. And not being nasty but why should disabled people get it for free? My grandmother is registered as disable because of a dodgy arm she as but she parks and goes about her business fine.
Everyone does indeed know that if you overstay you get fined. What people attending hospital do not know is how long they will be before being able to return to their car.

What would you do if you had to attend Casualty for something? How long would you book your parking place for? 1hour? 2 hours? 4 hours? You have no idea how long you will be so you take a guess at 2 hours. Surely you will be seen within that time? Won’t you?

OK! So you play it safe and book your place for 4 hours and luck is on your side and you are back out within an hour. What are you going to do, sit in your car for the next three hours just to use up your time? Or accept having paid for something that you will not use.

This whole Pay and Display scheme is wrong and just a money spinner for the firm that runs the car park.

Incidentally disabilities come in all forms and your gran’s arm disability wouldn’t qualify her for a Blue Badge. And that is what this issue is about. Not disabled people but Blue Badge holders. It helps to read the opening thread before putting fingers to keyboard.

Royboy39 18-07-2007 22:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 451013)
Get a taxi then.

The rest of us have to pay so why should you get to park for free?
Are you in a position to give advise like this when you are in good health.
At your age you have no idea what people older than you have to suffer or endure. If you can afford a Taxi, good, but if you are on limited income, as most pensioners are, a taxi will pay for a meal the next day. Three or four journeys to the hospital in one week will pay for Three or four meals.
Get the message?

jambutty 18-07-2007 22:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 451013)
Get a taxi then.

The rest of us have to pay so why should you get to park for free?
Why should someone get a taxi when they have their own car and a Blue Badge? It’s a bit like buying a guard dog and sitting up all night barking yourself.

Blue Badge holders get free parking because that is the law. If you are jealous of the privilege then get the law changed.

garinda 18-07-2007 22:36
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 451021)
Are you in a position to give advise like this when you are in good health.
At your age you have no idea what people older than you have to suffer or endure. If you can afford a Taxi, good, but if you are on limited income, as most pensioners are, a taxi will pay for a meal the next day. Three or four journeys to the hospital in one week will pay for Three or four meals.
Get the message?
Are you suggesting all pensioners should have free parking too?

garinda 18-07-2007 22:37
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 451022)
If you are jealous of the privilege then get the law changed.

...or get Parkinson's Disease. I'll give you tips on the shake 'n' shuffle.:D

jackyalex 18-07-2007 23:01
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Blue Badge holders get free parking because that is the law. If you are jealous of the privilege then get the law changed.[/quote]

not up here they dont,any private carpark blue badge holders still have to pay,there are however more than enough places (middle of town)free for bbh,and as for paying for parking in hospitals i think thats wrong for anyone having to pay,is there not a free pickup service for those who attend hospital for treatment? and as for parking it should be everyone pays or everyone get it free

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 07:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 451050)
is there not a free pickup service for those who attend hospital for treatment?

:rofl38:Oh dear, can somebody please help me up off the floor?

davo69 19-07-2007 08:08
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i think parking should be free for all staff more so .if your going to charge then give staff a very reduced rate everyone else should pay the same after all everyone argues not to be discriminated against.lets not forget the firms that run these car parks run them for the hospital trusts they work under the rules and prices set by the hospital trust

jackyalex 19-07-2007 08:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451083)
:rofl38:Oh dear, can somebody please help me up off the floor?
what are you saying?

panther 19-07-2007 08:49
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i say it should be free for all!, paying to see a doctor is stupid, can you imagine if you had to be there all day for weeks because you have someone in there who is very ill!!.

wheres all this money go anyhow?
they must be raking in thousands!!....a day!

MargaretR 19-07-2007 08:50
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There is no free transport service for hospital visits. I once struggled home after outpatient surgery on my foot. After completion of a minor op and with a bandaged foot that I was told not to walk on, I was advised that there was no ambulance and I should get myself a taxi - didnt even get a set of crutches!

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 451100)
what are you saying?
The idea of getting free transport to hospital. :D You've either got to laugh or cry.

Royboy39 19-07-2007 09:05
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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 451050)

,is there not a free pickup service for those who attend hospital for treatment?
Yes there is........I went to Preston for a minor op and was told not to drive.
A car was sent for me in Darwen to go to Preston and another car picked me up in Preston and brought me back to Darwen. Free
Contact your GP to arrange

jackyalex 19-07-2007 09:11
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451107)
The idea of getting free transport to hospital. :D You've either got to laugh or cry.

my mum gets free transport from b'burn to christies,i just didnt know if you could get it to local hospitals

andrewb 19-07-2007 09:26
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Free at point of delivery National Health Service - My ass!

The fact that staff have to pay is silly, and when they first introduced it staff didn't even have cards so they were all forced to abandon their cars wherever they could as they couldn't get on the staff carparks. This went on for quite a while.

When I go to A&E I should not be charged for the privilege of needing emergency attention if the NHS is supposed to be free.

Private hospitals don't have this issue, its always been free parking when I have been, which is rather surprising.

How much are the charges by the way?

Royboy39 19-07-2007 09:40
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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 451120)

How much are the charges by the way?
I have just asked my daughter who works at the hospital.
She pays £9.50 a month to use the staff car park. The money is deducted from her wages.

panther 19-07-2007 09:41
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having to pay to park to go to work.?........no comment!

entwisi 19-07-2007 10:01
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My understanding is that the disabled badge scheme is to give you 'convienient' parking not 'free'. I have no problem with disabled spaces near to the buildings etc but why should I pay and you not(actually I can apply for a badge because of my broken back as I can't carry stuff for distance but haven't because I don't feel 'disabled' enough to validate it )?

There is a charge becasue the hospitals sub contract the service(just how hard is it to run a car park?).

panther 19-07-2007 10:04
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I dont know if this question has been asked before..(sorry memory not that good:)),...but what do they class as disabled these days?
i knew someone who had angina, could not walk for....etc, but he was refused , how come?

Royboy39 19-07-2007 10:17
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Here is a useful link for car parking and transport for all local hospitals.

Travel Information - www.elht.nhs.uk

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 10:20
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Dunno Panther but the transport to hospitals is a lottery too. My mother was taken to A&E in an ambulance with an injured leg but left to find her own way home with stitches and bandage round her leg. A note was given to her basically saying that the hospital does not supply a free taxi service and that she should obtain a lift from a friend or relative or get a taxi.

This was an elderly lady in a rather distressed condition and without a purse on her.

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 10:26
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When it was A&E at the Infirmary there was a regular bus from Accy (the Darwen one) but it's not so regular now it's Queen's Park and I always seem to come out after the last Accy bus has gone. I can get one to Blackburn and then one from Blackburn to Accy but it's more long winded and hanging about for the bus. I tend to depend on a taxi. After being poked and prodded about the last thing I want to be doing is standing around for buses.

Royboy39 19-07-2007 10:34
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451145)
Dunno Panther but the transport to hospitals is a lottery too. My mother was taken to A&E in an ambulance with an injured leg but left to find her own way home with stitches and bandage round her leg. A note was given to her basically saying that the hospital does not supply a free taxi service and that she should obtain a lift from a friend or relative or get a taxi.

This was an elderly lady in a rather distressed condition and without a purse on her.
Ambulances are for A&E and quite rightly should not be used as taxis.
A simple request to reception to call a friend or relative would probably resolved the situation.
Taking an ambulance away from emergency service for reasons other than emergency would not be in the public interest.

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 10:48
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No-one would have been available Royboy as all who had cars would have been at work.

You have just emphasised the point that there was no free transport available even though she had an injury.

jambutty 19-07-2007 11:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 451050)
not up here they dont,any private carpark blue badge holders still have to pay,there are however more than enough places (middle of town)free for bbh,and as for paying for parking in hospitals i think thats wrong for anyone having to pay,is there not a free pickup service for those who attend hospital for treatment? and as for parking it should be everyone pays or everyone get it free
I should have made it clear that the free parking is for Municipal car parks and on street Pay and Display.

jambutty 19-07-2007 12:12
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Originally Posted by panther (Post 451142)
I dont know if this question has been asked before..(sorry memory not that good:)),...but what do they class as disabled these days?
i knew someone who had angina, could not walk for....etc, but he was refused , how come?
Don’t worry about your memory or lack of it. Poor memory gets us all in the end to some degree.

If a person cannot walk unaided and it is a permanent condition then they qualify for a Blue Badge. That would include a blind person or someone who is so mentally disabled that they would be a danger to themselves and others but does not include someone with a broken leg (it is unlikely to be permanent). I understand that surprisingly someone with a false leg would not qualify. If a person experiences pain that forces them to stop and rest whilst walking a short distance, they too will qualify for a Blue Badge. The distance seems to be in the region of 30 yards or so but as far as I know there is no actual distance quoted.

A person who qualifies for the mobility component of DLA would automatically qualify for a Blue Badge. I’m not too sure about this but I think that there is also an age limit. Meaning that after a certain age you cannot get a Blue Badge but if you have one before that age limit you keep it for all time.

However all conditions would need verification from their GP and maybe even a doctor appointed by the Blue Badge issuing department.

A Blue Badge is issued to the person whether they happen to drive a car or not. Thus you can take a Blue Badge holder in your car, display the Blue Badge and park just about anywhere on the road (within certain restrictions) or in parking bays reserved for Blue Badge holders.

Misuse of a Blue Badge can earn a £1,000 fine for the misuser AND THE BONA FIDE BADGE HOLDER and loss of the Blue Badge.

Royboy39 19-07-2007 12:17
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451155)
No-one would have been available Royboy as all who had cars would have been at work.

You have just emphasised the point that there was no free transport available even though she had an injury.
If my mother had been taken to hospital by ambulance one of my family members would be there for her work or not.
One of the first things the medical staff would ask 'Is here anyone you would like us to contact?'
Free transport by ambulance was provided by the Ambulance Service to take your mum to hospital, that is where the contract ends.
If it was considered unsafe to send the lady home by the medical staff they would have not allowed her to go.

grego 19-07-2007 18:45
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 451015)
It is ridiculous to charge staff to park at work. I have never had to pay to park at work. Where I work at the moment you park inside the secure car park with a card to get in and a big fence around it with cameras everywhere.

You forgot to mention that your £7.80 does not even guarantee you a parking space and that if it is full you have to pay to park on the other car park.
I didn't mention it Neil because getting a space for me when I get there 0830hrs isn't a problem and I haven't heard anyone complaining about spaces, it looks like the price as gone up now too, I've been off for 10 months so weren't aware of that.:)

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 19:03
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 451188)
If my mother had been taken to hospital by ambulance one of my family members would be there for her work or not.
One of the first things the medical staff would ask 'Is here anyone you would like us to contact?'
Free transport by ambulance was provided by the Ambulance Service to take your mum to hospital, that is where the contract ends.
If it was considered unsafe to send the lady home by the medical staff they would have not allowed her to go.
You are lucky that you have family members with cars within travelling distance then. I am her only daughter and at the time did not have a car. Friends who do not work also do not have cars. My uncle (her brother) who lives in Accrington rides a bike and my other uncle the car driver lives in Chesterfield. A bit far to travel even if he did get time off work to come for her.

She wouldn't expect neighbours to get time off work and I hardly think neighbours bosses would consider it a valid reason to have time off either. All situations are not equal.

jimbob100 19-07-2007 19:07
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bloody right disabled people should pay charges , they get the extra space they need to get out of their cars and get closer access to the building so realy they should pay more if anything.

been disabled dosnt make you any poorer or richer than anyone else infact if you have a blue badge its most likely you get a free car or about 55 quid a week mobility allowance so yes they should pay like everyone else does

staff should be free but apart from that if the rest of the public have to pay so should disabled people

i wouldnt mind but most people i see with blue badges dont seem unable to walk a few extra yards anyway so screw them and even if they are in a wheelchair so what , disabled people have been crying out for years for equal rights but soon cry when it means they have to pay like normal people

you want free parking for disabled people then park in blackburn multi story and walk to the bloody hospital then at least you got your free parking or simply stick it on the double yellow lines outside the building

WillowTheWhisp 19-07-2007 19:08
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Disabled badge holders do not have an automatic right to park on double yellow lines.

jimbob100 19-07-2007 19:19
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451327)
Disabled badge holders do not have an automatic right to park on double yellow lines.
yes they do , you pull up on the yellow lines , stick your blue clock in the window , display your badge picture down and your set for 3 hours

anyone with a blue badge knows this and if they didnt they do now

Quote:
Parking on Yellow Lines
Nearside/offside parking for Blue Badge holders is allowed on yellow lines as long as:

you do not cause an obstruction,
there are no loading restrictions, and
you do not park for longer than 3 hours.
taken from here

Parking For Blue Badge Holders

anyway where a blue badge can be used isnt the point the point is disabled people should pay like everyone else has to

cashman 19-07-2007 19:30
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thats a real narrowminded view jimbob,- we have to pay so the disabled have to pay,pathetic, no-one should have to pay on hospital car parks.

jambutty 19-07-2007 19:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451326)
bloody right disabled people should pay charges , they get the extra space they need to get out of their cars and get closer access to the building so realy they should pay more if anything.

been disabled dosnt make you any poorer or richer than anyone else infact if you have a blue badge its most likely you get a free car or about 55 quid a week mobility allowance so yes they should pay like everyone else does

staff should be free but apart from that if the rest of the public have to pay so should disabled people

i wouldnt mind but most people i see with blue badges dont seem unable to walk a few extra yards anyway so screw them and even if they are in a wheelchair so what , disabled people have been crying out for years for equal rights but soon cry when it means they have to pay like normal people

you want free parking for disabled people then park in blackburn multi story and walk to the bloody hospital then at least you got your free parking or simply stick it on the double yellow lines outside the building
It seems to me that those people who are whinging about Blue Badge holders getting free parking in Municipal car parks and some private car parks and also at on-street Pay and Display parking do so because they cannot stand the thought of someone having a small advantage over them. Sheer selfish jealousy!!!

May you never be in the situation where you become disabled to the degree that walking is a painful exercise. If you did you would change your boorish attitude sharply.

Incidentally having a Blue Badge does not qualify you for a free car. So get your facts straight before shooting off your foul mouth.

Ianto.W. 19-07-2007 19:47
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Quote:
jimbob100,
anyway where a blue badge can be used isnt the point the point is disabled people should pay like everyone else has to
Shame on you, the very reason disabled car parking spaces were created was to make life a little easier for the disadvantaged in our society. For you to state that they should be penalised because they have not got the options open to an able bodied person is a disgrace!

garinda 19-07-2007 21:21
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 451367)
I think and hope that post will cause you problems.
I quite agree, but if you do see an abusive post just report it, don't quote it. It makes the mods job harder to get rid of it, if it is duplicated in a quote.

Royboy39 19-07-2007 21:50
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 451376)
I quite agree, but if you do see an abusive post just report it, don't quote it. It makes the mods job harder to get rid of it, if it is duplicated in a quote.
Sorry........I stand corrected.......I did report it.

garinda 19-07-2007 21:53
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 451400)
Sorry........I stand corrected.......I did report it.

Wasn't having a go Roy, just letting other people know what to do if anyone's abusive or obscene.

Luckily the mods (Len? :D) were on it like a shot, but sometimes they aren't online.:)

davo69 19-07-2007 22:47
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
disabled parking bays are one thing and yes they should be as close as possible to were the disabled person wants to go .but i think if there is a charge than a charge should be made to everyone.that way equality what everyone wants is put in to practice

KIPAX 19-07-2007 23:02
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
I would agree that no one should pay at a hospital. But if there is to be a charge then disabled should pay.

I agree disabled should have a badge. I agree disabled should have parking bays and I agree they should be as close as possible to the facilities they are visiting.. But why shouldn't they pay. There not getting a lesser service than able bodied, Quite the opposite in fact, and theres no reason to assume they have any less money than a pensioner, tax dodger or unemployed.

However again.. I agree that at a hospital no one should be paying to park.

cashman 19-07-2007 23:08
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
thats exactly the song everyone should be singing (nobody should pay) not wether disabled people should be charged cos i am.

cashman 19-07-2007 23:48
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
its very easy to attack the disabled n unfortunates behind anonimity jimbob, at least Hitler did it upfront.:(

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 08:04
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451331)
Quote:
Originally Posted by willowthewhisp
Disabled badge holders do not have an automatic right to park on double yellow lines.


yes they do , you pull up on the yellow lines , stick your blue clock in the window , display your badge picture down and your set for 3 hours

anyone with a blue badge knows this and if they didnt they do now



taken from here

Parking For Blue Badge Holders
Again, I repeat - No, they don't.

Parking on Yellow Lines
Nearside/offside parking for Blue Badge holders is allowed on yellow lines as long as:
  • you do not cause an obstruction,
  • there are no loading restrictions, and
  • you do not park for longer than 3 hours.
taken from here
Parking For Blue Badge Holders

Well, whadya know - the very same website you claim to have quoted from.

You cannot just pull up anywhere and bung your blue badge in the window and stay for 3 hours. If you are causing an obstruction or if there are loading restrictions you are committing an offence.

Anyone with a blue badge ought to know this and if they didn't they do now. Although many, like you choose to ignore the first two bullet points (which I have emphasised in red) and insist on following only the latter and then complain if they 'get done'.

Royboy39 20-07-2007 08:49
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451322)
You are lucky that you have family members with cars within travelling distance then. I am her only daughter and at the time did not have a car. Friends who do not work also do not have cars. My uncle (her brother) who lives in Accrington rides a bike and my other uncle the car driver lives in Chesterfield. A bit far to travel even if he did get time off work to come for her.

She wouldn't expect neighbours to get time off work and I hardly think neighbours bosses would consider it a valid reason to have time off either. All situations are not equal.
Yes I accept and agree all of that. Mum went to hospital free.....How did mum get home?

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 09:02
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
She persuaded a taxi driver to trust her enough to bring her home on the off chance the little old lady down the road with the spare key would be in and she'd be able to get into the house to get some money to pay him.

Royboy39 20-07-2007 09:05
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451487)
She persuaded a taxi driver to trust her enough to bring her home on the off chance the little old lady down the road with the spare key would be in and she'd be able to get into the house to get some money to pay him.
Good and I hope mum is well.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 09:12
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
She did recover fully from the leg injury. She passed away from an entirely unrelated cause.

Royboy39 20-07-2007 09:33
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451491)
She did recover fully from the leg injury. She passed away from an entirely unrelated cause.
Sorry to hear that Willow. I know we both mentioned mums and sadly my mother is no longer with us.

jimbob100 20-07-2007 10:45
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 451432)
its very easy to attack the disabled n unfortunates behind anonimity jimbob, at least Hitler did it upfront.:(

i didnt attack the disabled i said they get catered for their disablilities ie: the closer parking and extra room , having a disability should NOT mean you shouldnt have to put your hand in your pocket like everyone else and as for the coment about seeing them pennyless over parking fees i have never read so much drivel because people on disability get a whole load more money than say a person who is on income support yet they have to pay parking fees and if half the morons who have comented on this thread actualy read what i put they would see what i actualy said was that if everyone else has to pay so should disabled people , what i did not say was disabled people should pay because they are disabled nor did i say i agree with parking fees

as for willow who seems to think she has proven some kind of point there are plenty of places outside of the hospital to park on yellow lines where you arnt causing an obstruction so if you dont want to put your hand in your pocket find them, my mother has a blue badge and i park on double yellows and single yellow lines when taking her places and have even checked with the traffic warden that i am ok to use it where i do on the occasions he or she has been around,parking fees at hospitals is a fact so get used to it, yes its disgusting that anyone has to pay especialy staff but the reality is there are charges so they have to be paid,all i can see is a bunch of blue badge holders upset that they are no longer getting extra special treatment attacking somone who dare say that you arnt that special and should be treated the same as everybody else

thankyou to the ones who have posted who agree that been disabled dosnt automaticly give you the right not to pay your way

ps: i noticed the karma thing this forum has and the comments left yet for some reason my life or thoughts on this matter dont seem to have changed at all, maybe if i had a blue badge i would get more sympathy

garinda 20-07-2007 11:11
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451534)
i didnt attack the disabled i said they get catered for their disablilities ie: the closer parking and extra room , having a disability should NOT mean you shouldnt have to put your hand in your pocket like everyone else and as for the coment about seeing them pennyless over parking fees i have never read so much drivel because people on disability get a whole load more money than say a person who is on income support yet they have to pay parking fees and if half the morons who have comented on this thread actualy read what i put they would see what i actualy said was that if everyone else has to pay so should disabled people , what i did not say was disabled people should pay because they are disabled nor did i say i agree with parking fees

as for willow who seems to think she has proven some kind of point there are plenty of places outside of the hospital to park on yellow lines where you arnt causing an obstruction so if you dont want to put your hand in your pocket find them, my mother has a blue badge and i park on double yellows and single yellow lines when taking her places and have even checked with the traffic warden that i am ok to use it where i do on the occasions he or she has been around,parking fees at hospitals is a fact so get used to it, yes its disgusting that anyone has to pay especialy staff but the reality is there are charges so they have to be paid,all i can see is a bunch of blue badge holders upset that they are no longer getting extra special treatment attacking somone who dare say that you arnt that special and should be treated the same as everybody else

thankyou to the ones who have posted who agree that been disabled dosnt automaticly give you the right not to pay your way

ps: i noticed the karma thing this forum has and the comments left yet for some reason my life or thoughts on this matter dont seem to have changed at all, maybe if i had a blue badge i would get more sympathy
I think you'll find the negative karma was for the foul mouthed expletives you used in the now edited post.

jimbob100 20-07-2007 11:34
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 451549)
I think you'll find the negative karma was for the foul mouthed expletives you used in the now edited post.
can you honestly say you have never sat there and though about telling the occasional moaner to shut the **** up :)

jambutty 20-07-2007 11:49
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
WillowTheWhisp - I do believe that jimbob100 in his post #49 quoted:
Quote:
Parking on Yellow Lines
Nearside/offside parking for Blue Badge holders is allowed on yellow lines as long as:

you do not cause an obstruction,
there are no loading restrictions, and
you do not park for longer than 3 hours.
And you misquote him and tell him he is wrong then go and make the same quote.

Is it so important to your over inflated ego that you are always right?

jambutty 20-07-2007 11:53
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451554)
can you honestly say you have never sat there and though about telling the occasional moaner to shut the **** up :)
Quite often but there is such a thing as forum etiquette.

jimbob100 20-07-2007 12:12
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
just noticed this

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex
is there not a free pickup service for those who attend hospital for treatment?


by willothewhisp - Oh dear, can somebody please help me up off the floor?
when she eventualy gets off the floor can somone inform here that there is actualy a service that will take you to hospital for specialist appointments and treatments etc my friend booked his through is local g.p surgery to take him from accrington to preston hospital,it will get you there in plenty of time but it could be well before your appontment time and the pickup may be a lot later than when you are finished but if you realy dont want to pay thats a risk you got to take , oh and you have to share a bus with other sick people if it isnt beneath you

Royboy39 20-07-2007 12:35
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451567)
when she eventualy gets off the floor can somone inform here that there is actualy a service that will take you to hospital for specialist appointments and treatments etc my friend booked his through is local g.p surgery to take him from accrington to preston hospital,it will get you there in plenty of time but it could be well before your appontment time and the pickup may be a lot later than when you are finished but if you realy dont want to pay thats a risk you got to take , oh and you have to share a bus with other sick people if it isnt beneath you
Before having a 'Pop' at someone it may be a good idea to read all of the thread. If you read the post with attitude you will not get a favourable response from anyone.
The subject of transport to Preston has been covered.
This is an open forum and if someone has a gripe this is the place to do it always bearing in mind that this forum is picked up by major search engines.

Tealeaf 20-07-2007 12:37
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451567)
just noticed this



when she eventualy gets off the floor can somone inform here that there is actualy a service that will take you to hospital for specialist appointments and treatments etc my friend booked his through is local g.p surgery to take him from accrington to preston hospital,it will get you there in plenty of time but it could be well before your appontment time and the pickup may be a lot later than when you are finished but if you realy dont want to pay thats a risk you got to take , oh and you have to share a bus with other sick people if it isnt beneath you
Well said, Jimbob.

I am pretty well fed up of reading the whingers on here, constantly complaining about about some aspect of the NHS. What the hell the supposed right to free parking has to do with clinical care, I do not know. The next thing we know this lot will be demanding a free car breakdown and recovery service on the NHS.

Royboy39 20-07-2007 12:45
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 451572)
Well said, Jimbob.

I am pretty well fed up of reading the whingers on here, constantly complaining about about some aspect of the NHS. What the hell the supposed right to free parking has to do with clinical care, I do not know. The next thing we know this lot will be demanding a free car breakdown and recovery service on the NHS.
This thread is about parking charges nothing to do with clinical care,
You should know better.

Tealeaf 20-07-2007 12:52
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 451581)
This thread is about parking charges nothing to do with clinical care,
You should know better.
Oh dear! And There was me thinking that all the previous posts on this thread were concerned with parking charges in hospital car parks. I shall have to pay alot more attention next time.

Anyway, if people don't want to pay parking charges they can always walk, use public transport, and for those in need, use the NHS patient transport facility. Or they again, they can park and not pay and then get clamped. There are plenty of choices there - so what's the problem?

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 13:24
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 451561)
WillowTheWhisp - I do believe that jimbob100 in his post #49 quoted:
And you misquote him and tell him he is wrong then go and make the same quote.

Is it so important to your over inflated ego that you are always right?
No, I actually pointed out that I'd quoted the same site but I highlighted the two bullet points in red which he seemed to have glossed over when he said that you can park anywhere as long as you stick your disabled badge in the window and don't stay longer than 3 hours. I was actually pointing out that the other two bullet points mean exactly what I'd said previously when he'd said that I was wrong - i.e. that you cannot park just anywhere with a disabled badge, that there are restrictions and that you have to accept that. He even quoted those restrictions so how can I be wrong for drawing attention to them? :rolleyes:

Are you making this some sort of personal vendetta?

OK, now let's look at this free transport issue. There's a collecting ambulance bus type thing which picks people up from home, takes them to hospital. It goes round to all the houses of all the people it is picking up. It cannot guarantee your arrival time. If you have an appointment at 9am and the ambulance bus doesn't get there until 10:30 what use is that? You'd probably get hassle from the hospital for being late. The transport works in some cases. In many it doesn't. For those that it does work for it is no doubt a Godsend but there are still many people who need to get there before it does and/or are still there and need to get home after it has gone.

Can you accept that? Or is it simply because I'm saying it that you feel it can't possibly be right?

:rolleyes: I'd actually sympathised with your point of view at the start of this thread but I'm beginning to be swayed the other way now. :D

Ianto.W. 20-07-2007 13:53
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
WillowTheWhisp, OK, now let's look at this free transport issue. There's a collecting ambulance bus type thing which picks people up from home, takes them to hospital. It goes round to all the houses of all the people it is picking up. It cannot guarantee your arrival time. If you have an appointment at 9am and the ambulance bus doesn't get there until 10:30 what use is that? You'd probably get hassle from the hospital for being late. The transport works in some cases. In many it doesn't. For those that it does work for it is no doubt a Godsend but there are still many people who need to get there before it does and/or are still there and need to get home after it has gone.
I agree, this form of transport is not a lot of use to patients with 'bowel or waterworks' problems, a disability just as much as the inabillity to walk etc. Blue badges are for any disabled person car owner or not, they can be used in anyones car providing the bearer is in it, or for business on behalf of the holder, ie- collection of prescription or shopping on behalf of the said holder.

accymel 20-07-2007 13:55
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Hospital transport ambulance is a god-send to those who have no means of transport or would struggle immensely with public transport systems, my youngest had to rely on that service cos at times it was essential, yes they do pick ups to others on the way as well - but with that system you have to book it yourself & take that into account even getting the earlier pick up times to ensure you make your appointment. I cant personally fault them they do an invaluable service - especially with residential home residents. In fact more regular than the direct bus service to the Royal these days from accy :rolleyes: :D

cashman 20-07-2007 14:09
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
ps: i noticed the karma thing this forum has and the comments left yet for some reason my life or thoughts on this matter dont seem to have changed at all, maybe if i had a blue badge i would get more sympathy---------------- jimbob you are either on a differant planet or thick, the negative was for the language you used, not many have a fouler mouth than me,so i aint mr wonderful, BUT as this is a FAMILY forum, plus im more careful who i swear at, thats why you got the negative. nowt wrong with a differant viewpoint.but use yer head a bit.

jimbob100 20-07-2007 14:34
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 451588)
Oh dear! And There was me thinking that all the previous posts on this thread were concerned with parking charges in hospital car parks. I shall have to pay alot more attention next time.

Anyway, if people don't want to pay parking charges they can always walk, use public transport, and for those in need, use the NHS patient transport facility. Or they again, they can park and not pay and then get clamped. There are plenty of choices there - so what's the problem?
the problem is mr tealeaf that some people have nothing better to do than moan and take pleasure in thinking that they are superior to others, i merely stated my reasons why disabled people should pay which is after all the subject of this thread only to be battered down for picking on the poor dears for daring to say they shouldnt be treated different to anyone else

is it realy any wonder i told them to **** off and i dare say i wont be the last :rolleyes:

cashman 20-07-2007 14:42
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbob100 (Post 451644)

is it realy any wonder i told them to **** off and i dare say i wont be the last :rolleyes:
no you used that language either cos you think your a big man,or your too dim to use owt else.

jambutty 20-07-2007 15:08
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
What planet are you on WillowTheWhisp? Go and look at jimbob100’s post #49. He didn’t gloss over anything. Here let me help you it is like this.
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Disabled badge holders do not have an automatic right to park on double yellow lines
yes they do , you pull up on the yellow lines , stick your blue clock in the window , display your badge picture down and your set for 3 hours

anyone with a blue badge knows this and if they didnt they do now
Quote:
Parking on Yellow Lines
Nearside/offside parking for Blue Badge holders is allowed on yellow lines as long as:

you do not cause an obstruction,
there are no loading restrictions, and
you do not park for longer than 3 hours.
taken from here

Parking For Blue Badge Holders

anyway where a blue badge can be used isnt the point the point is disabled people should pay like everyone else has to
Quote:
Are you making this some sort of personal vendetta?
Eh! Just because I pointed out that you were telling jimbob100 off and then quoting back at him what he had already quoted and thus making yourself look foolish you think that is a vendetta? My you do have a high opinion of yourself.

Why can’t you accept that in your haste to prove your self imposed superiority you boobed.

You can look at the ‘free transport issue’ all you like but I haven’t addressed it so what am I supposed to accept? I have no view about that point. If I had I would have published it. Oh! I get it! Bring in an irrelevant point to try and deflect things from the real point.
Quote:
I'd actually sympathised with your point of view at the start of this thread but I'm beginning to be swayed the other way now.
That says it all. Just because I had the audacity to point out to the “I am never wrong WillowTheWhisp” that she was wrong you are ready to change your opinion so that it doesn’t mirror my own. That’s an attitude I could expect from a Kindergarten.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 15:37
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
OK Jambutty, you are obviously missing the point I tried to make so will admit that maybe I didn't make it very well. I'll try again:

I said that disabled badge holders don't have an automatic right to park anywhere. That's a fact. They don't. They don't have the right to park in certain restricted areas under any circumstances, disabled badge or no disabled badge.

Jimbob argued that "yes they do" provided they use the badge they can park anywhere they like for 3 hours and then went on to prove his point by quoting from a website - the very quotation which he used was actually backing up what I'd said that in fact they don't have the right to park anywhere. That right is restricted in two specific instances. I repeated the quotation and highlighted in red those two specific instances in order to clarify my point that simply having a blue badge does not entitle someone to park just anywhere for 3 hours.

He'd contradicted his viewpoint by the quotation he'd provided in order to support it? Do you understand now? Or are you still determined to argue that I don't know what I'm talking about?

Why are you so adamant that I am a stubborn know it all who is refusing to admit she is wrong when in fact I am not actually, in this specific instance, wrong. If I am wrong I will admit to being wrong and if I have misled anyone with any false information I will apologise but I have known disabled badge holders get booked for parking where they shouldn't and argue the toss that they are within their rights because they have a blue (or previously it was orange) badge.

The second paragraph was a follow-up to other points in the thread on the subject of the free transport which is available which I have agreed is a Godsend for those for whom it is applicable. It isn't relevant for everyone. If it were there wouldn't be a need for a car park for patients at all would there?

In the beginning I was in support of your view about the unfairness of the charges for disabled patients but having read some of the valid points put forward by others I am now beginning to see it from a different point of view. Isn't that allowed? Am I not permitted to change my mind based on information and points put forward by other people? I thought that was the whole purpose of a sensible adult debate not a symptom of 'the Kindergarten attitude'.

jambutty 20-07-2007 15:58
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
When in a hole WillowTheWhisp – stop digging.

jimbob100 20-07-2007 16:01
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
actualy i said if you dont like paying then park on yellow lines, i did not say park anywhere you like,you got picky to prove a point and tried to make it appear that i was wrong in saying that blue badges can park on yellow lines,as i mentioned my mother has a blue badge and i am very aware of where you can and can not park with the badge as i have actualy taken the time to read the literature that came with the badge, as for free parking it is a courtesy of carparks that you dont have to pay with a blue badge not the law as many carparks especialy in blackpool do not provide free disabled parking,what they do provide is disabled spaces with more room which means disabled people are treat exactly the same as able bodied people and pay the same but get a little extra room to get out of their cars,like i said if you dont like paying and have a blue badge park it on the yellow lines and hope you dont get your wing mirror smashed off by passing traffic.

cashman 20-07-2007 16:15
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
i never took issue with what you said yer entitled to yer view, i took issue with the "Foul Language" you used on a family forum, thats summat you dont/or will not recognise, and seem to think is acceptable when people "moan" or not agree with you.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 16:31
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 451704)
When in a hole WillowTheWhisp – stop digging.
:D How on earth do you conclude that I am in a hole? Did Jimbob say or did he not say:


Quote:
yes they do , you pull up on the yellow lines , stick your blue clock in the window , display your badge picture down and your set for 3 hours

anyone with a blue badge knows this and if they didnt they do now
and then back it up with a quote which contradicted that?

How is that me digging myself into a hole? The point is still valid. There are places you cannot park and those places are quoted on that website.

How much simpler can it be put? You cannot just pull up on ANY yellow lines and park for 3 hours.

mallard 20-07-2007 16:59
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Hello there, i have just been told that all the money that they get in fine,s go,s back in to r,b,h, to keep the place running

MargaretR 20-07-2007 17:21
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Flower Power - dont be discouraged. I have been a member for a couple of months - been to one meet - and met a lot of nice people. Sometimes a newbie comes along who stirs things up either by trolling or by using foul language. Then it appears the cavalry descend and the troll gets removed or the swearer gets told to behave or else. Meanwhile tempers have been frayed and some small differences loom larger than they actually are - dont leave just for some hot debate in this one thread.
Ps - the newbie I responded to has been removed ?

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 17:34
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
When I first started work at QPH...which was what it was long before it was the RBH...parking was free.........and we had loads of car crime....cars being broken into, wing mirrors ripped off windscreens broken...just for fun.
The hospital brought in parking charges which paid for the car park to be manned and patrolled, it paid for security cameras and increased the lighting of the site.......car crime dropped to almost Zero......the hospital did not make a profit....every penny that was levied went back into the security.
I for one was happy to pay my parking charges knowing that my vehicle (which was essential for me to get to duty) was being looked after.
The parking attendants were also extremely helpful if, after a 13 hour shift you found yourself with a flat tyre.......although strictly it wasn't part of their remit, they would help you to change a wheel.
Now i haven't worked at that hospital for 5 years so i don't know what the situation is now, with regard to whether the hospital makes a profit on Parking charges. Parking charges are a fact of life and I suppose if you drive, you have to be prepared to pay to park.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 17:57
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
There may be car park security guards but I haven't noticed any. It's one of those automated barrier things.

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 19:24
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
As I say Willow this was five years ago....they used to have a cabin on site and they would survey the whole of the site with the security cameras.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 19:31
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Maybe they have cameras now. I haven't noticed any of those either though, but that could be a good thing.

Margaret Pilkington 20-07-2007 19:34
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
I think they do have cameras, they certainly have them inside the hospital, and they are unobtrusive, so I am sure they are outside too.

WillowTheWhisp 20-07-2007 19:47
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
yes I was thinking, probably there but not noticeable so hopefully more useful to catch somebody if they did do any damage.

Neil 21-07-2007 16:28
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grego (Post 451310)
I didn't mention it Neil because getting a space for me when I get there 0830hrs isn't a problem and I haven't heard anyone complaining about spaces
A friend of ours starts at about 9:30am and sometimes has a problem finding a space. I don't agree with staff paying at all.

BERNADETTE 21-07-2007 16:53
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
Free transport is provided for patients who need it, I am speaking from experience as my grandson is a patient at Alder Hey Hospital and was provided with transport both to and from the hospital on many occasions. I am aware that not all hospitals provide this service, but people on low incomes can claim travel expenses back

MargaretR 21-07-2007 16:55
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
My son pays about £8 a week to park at UMIST and regards it as a perk !- -but then there is a big difference between central Manchester and the wild outer reaches of Blackburn.

WillowTheWhisp 21-07-2007 20:54
Re: Hospital Disabled Parking Charges.
 
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 452098)
Free transport is provided for patients who need it, I am speaking from experience as my grandson is a patient at Alder Hey Hospital and was provided with transport both to and from the hospital on many occasions. I am aware that not all hospitals provide this service, but people on low incomes can claim travel expenses back
So how do you find out about the transport and how do you go about getting it and is it available to take residents of Accy to The Royal Blackburn for outpatient appointments?

BERNADETTE 21-07-2007 21:06
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 452217)
So how do you find out about the transport and how do you go about getting it and is it available to take residents of Accy to The Royal Blackburn for outpatient appointments?
You need to ask at your GP they should have a number for transport, you will have to ring and arrange it yourself, hope you find this info. can help you.


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