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MargaretR 21-07-2007 00:13

Boozers beware -you are next
 
The same chap who recommended the smoking ban is now after a reduction in alcohol consumption
Call For Higher Alcohol Taxes (from Lancashire Telegraph)?

What will be next after that? (I'm OK given up that one already ) :D

WillowTheWhisp 21-07-2007 00:15

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Are we looking at the possibility of 'a pub with no beer'?

steeljack 21-07-2007 05:40

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451956)
Are we looking at the possibility of 'a pub with no beer'?

guess music files are not allowed , just tried to post the Slim Dusty song "a pub with no beer" but the site would not allow it :mad: guess its a copyright/file sharing thing :mad:

Wynonie Harris 21-07-2007 06:57

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451956)
Are we looking at the possibility of 'a pub with no beer'?

There's one in Rawtenstall already...it's called a Temperance Bar. Personally, I shudder at the very thought of it!

mez 21-07-2007 09:34

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well if that happens the supermarkets are going to be a d**m site richer & more drinking at home ..................but will kill the socoal side of life .................HELP were would the accyweb meets be, the drink dosn't bother me but the socail side does.

cashman 21-07-2007 09:58

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 451976)
guess music files are not allowed , just tried to post the Slim Dusty song "a pub with no beer" but the site would not allow it :mad: guess its a copyright/file sharing thing :mad:

just reminded me got the single (green columbia) used to bring tears to me best mates eyes pmsl, its nowt new just scaremongering tax always has always will go on beer,spirits etc.

Tin Monkey 21-07-2007 10:01

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 451979)
There's one in Rawtenstall already...it's called a Temperance Bar. Personally, I shudder at the very thought of it!

Hasn't that been there for donkey's years? There was another Temperance Inn near Sedbergh in Yorkshire, but I think it closed down.

I don't see the harm in them, as long as there're alternatives too. ;)

MargaretR 21-07-2007 10:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 452009)
just reminded me got the single (green columbia) used to bring tears to me best mates eyes pmsl, its nowt new just scaremongering tax always has always will go on beer,spirits etc.

This chief medical officer seems to always get his way. Just be prepared for massive increases in tax on alcohol which will drive more pubs out of business, and reduce the amount we can afford to drink. He also recommends revoking the 24 hours licencing. It wont be a ban like the cigarettes is - just price it off the scale of affordability.

I suppose that yesterday was 'a good time to bury bad news' because of the floods and Harry Potter.

cashman 21-07-2007 10:34

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 452015)
This chief medical officer seems to always get his way. Just be prepared for massive increases in tax on alcohol which will drive more pubs out of business, and reduce the amount we can afford to drink. He also recommends revoking the 24 hours licencing. It wont be a ban like the cigarettes is - just price it off the scale of affordability.

I suppose that yesterday was 'a good time to bury bad news' because of the floods and Harry Potter.

oh i agree margaret, read something about 10 days ago that the intent is to " Bounce Booze"it will put more out of business,but still think pubs will continue as normal, just there will be less of em;)

Lilly 21-07-2007 10:36

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Oh how marvellous.So does this chap want us all to meet our friends in the pub for a pot of tea and a gypsy cream? I'm not in favour of 24 hour drinking myself but I don't want it banned altogether:(.Whatever next?

Royboy39 21-07-2007 10:54

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 452032)
Oh how marvellous.So does this chap want us all to meet our friends in the pub for a pot of tea and a gypsy cream? I'm not in favour of 24 hour drinking myself but I don't want it banned altogether:(.Whatever next?

Same fellow says we must eat healthy food, not junk food.
Offal is good for you so Sunday dinner will be Haggis with Curry Sauce and ginger beer. :rolleyes:

MargaretR 21-07-2007 10:55

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 452032)
Oh how marvellous.So does this chap want us all to meet our friends in the pub for a pot of tea and a gypsy cream? I'm not in favour of 24 hour drinking myself but I don't want it banned altogether:(.Whatever next?

I imagine we will end up with those continental type cafe/bars which serve drinks, snacks, coffee and tea.
In Italy they seem to be the social gathering places.
They dont have the same atmosphere as a traditional pub, but at least folks have somewhere to go to meet friends and exchange chat.

Tin Monkey 21-07-2007 10:57

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I think there's a little over-reaction to all this. Advocating eating a healthier diet and drinking less, is common sense nowadays isn't it? I'm not saying I do it (I am trying), but I know it's what I should be doing.

There is no way that the country will go down the road of prohibition, but there is a drink-led culture in this country that needs to be addressed.

MargaretR 21-07-2007 10:59

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 452041)
Same fellow says we must eat healthy food, not junk food.
Offal is good for you so Sunday dinner will be Haggis with Curry Sauce and ginger beer. :rolleyes:

Food is VAT free at present - they are considering adding VAT to food which they consider to be damaging to health.

cashman 21-07-2007 11:01

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 452043)
I think there's a little over-reaction to all this. Advocating eating a healthier diet and drinking less, is common sense nowadays isn't it? I'm not saying I do it (I am trying), but I know it's what I should be doing.

There is no way that the country will go down the road of prohibition, but there is a drink-led culture in this country that needs to be addressed.

that just about sums it up- Dead Right.:)

Royboy39 21-07-2007 11:03

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 452045)
Food is VAT free at present - they are considering adding VAT to food which they consider to be damaging to health.

I bet they dont put VAT on Haggis or Curry sauce that would put the cat among the pidgeons?

MargaretR 21-07-2007 11:25

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Liam Donaldson knows what is good for you and by taxation will ensure that you don't have the option but to do it
Sir Liam Donaldson targets fat binge drinkers - Telegraph

accymel 21-07-2007 12:52

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Before long having any kind of fun - even smiling will be banned in this sodding country - live long & miserable!

carpon 21-07-2007 14:25

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Typical nanny state junk as usual. Goverment telling us what we should be doing and taxing folk to the hilt for the privelage.Why don't they do something positive like tackle the drug problem???:(

garinda 21-07-2007 14:58

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The other lot are no better. Last week Iain Duncan Smith published a report recommending a ten percent increase on the tax for alcohol.

Tories call for 10 pc rise in tax on drink - Telegraph


I certainly wouldn't like to own a pub at this moment in time.

jambutty 22-07-2007 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 451956)
Are we looking at the possibility of 'a pub with no beer'?

Great record by Slim Dusty on a 78.
You can listen to it at http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/song.mp3 and sing along to the words below.

All together now!

Oh it's-a lonesome away from your kindred and all
By the campfire at night we'll hear the wild dingoes call
But there's-a nothing so lonesome, morbid or drear
Than to stand in the bar of a pub with no beer

Now the publican's anxious for the quota to come
And there's a far away look on the face of the bum
The maid's gone all cranky and the cook's acting queer
Oh what a terrible place is a pub with no beer

Then the stockman rides up with his dry dusty throat
He breasts up to the bar and pulls a wad from his coat
But the smile on his face quickly turns to a sneer
As the barman says sadly the pub's got no beer

Then the swaggie comes in smothered in dust and flies
He throws down his roll and rubs the sweat from his eyes
But when he is told, he says what's this I hear
I've trudged fifty flamin' miles to a pub with no beer

Now there's a dog on the v'randa, for his master he waits
But the boss is inside drinking wine with his mates
He hurries for cover and he cringes in fear
It's no place for a dog 'round a pub with no beer

And old Billy the blacksmith, the first time in his life
Why he's gone home cold sober to his darling wife
He walks in the kitchen, she says you're early Bill dear
But then he breaks down and tells her the pub's got no beer

Oh it's hard to believe that there's customers still
But the money's still tinkling in the old ancient till
The wine buffs are happy and I know they're sincere
When they say they don't care if the pub's got no beer

So it's-a lonesome away from your kindred and all
By the campfire at night we'll hear the wild dingoes call
But there's-a nothing so lonesome, morbid or drear
Than to stand in the bar of that pub with-a no beer

There was a follow up record entitled:
The Answer To The Pub With No Beer also sung by Slim Dusty on a 45.

You can listen to it at http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/song1.mp3

jambutty 22-07-2007 15:28

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Having established a precedent with the anti smoking campaign the government is now going down the same road with booze.
First warnings about alcohol on bottles and cans.
Now a suggestion to increase the tax on booze.
Next step ban advertising except at point of sale.
Wasn’t there something about increasing the age for buying booze and drinking in a pub?
What about ration cards limiting booze to the recommended weekly levels? Is that a possibility?
Returning to the previous pub opening times?

Who is going to be first to suggest that as drink related illness and injuries cost the NHS a small fortune and that anyone with such an illness or injury should pay for their treatment.

Those drinkers who supported the anti-smoking campaign will live to rue their actions.

mallard 22-07-2007 23:48

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this is how its going to end,all the pubs will have shut on the doors because lack of fund,s

mani 23-07-2007 01:30

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i was havin a chat on sat nite with couple of irish blokes who were stayin in manc

and he was like fair enough its good but its not right. each place shud've been allowed to choose if they were smokin or no smoking and then if non-smokers wanted to go into a smokin place they cudnt complain.

i personally thought that the next target wud either be the booze or fried food/fattening foods. esp with this whole health drive goin on they'll start putting in laws sayin no chip shops within a certain of the schools etc

b.joel 24-07-2007 09:52

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I see in todays Mail it says that Gord is going to clamp down on cheap bear in super markets, you know 3 packs for £20 :(

Ianto.W. 24-07-2007 10:25

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Originally Posted by mallard (Post 452597)
this is how its going to end,all the pubs will have shut on the doors because lack of fund,s

Pub's face enough competition as it is, with the cheap supermarket and off-licece chains selling beer wine and spirits at cut prices, without civil servants poking their noses in.

jambutty 24-07-2007 11:29

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Originally Posted by b.joel (Post 452918)
I see in todays Mail it says that Gord is going to clamp down on cheap bear in super markets, you know 3 packs for £20 :(

So in Gordon Brown we have a Blair MarkII. Dictating to shops how much they can charge for their goods.

The screw gets tightened ever tighter!!!

blazey 24-07-2007 20:09

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To be fair, students do studies on alcohol use all the time and foreign students always think england is over the top with alcohol usage and they find the way we use it really unusual, and thats students from all over the globe.

I think english drinkers are a bit shameful and the drinking culture is a bit of an embarrassment.

WillowTheWhisp 24-07-2007 20:51

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 453082)
students do studies on alcohol use all the time


Sorry blazey, couldn't help but titter at that. :D

carpon 25-07-2007 01:12

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 452953)
So in Gordon Brown we have a Blair MarkII. Dictating to shops how much they can charge for their goods.

The screw gets tightened ever tighter!!!

For Mclaren refer to Eriksson, for Brown refer to...... Well, we all love continuity don't we !!!!:eek::Banane35::Banane40:


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