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I don't think she wrote the bit where herself and her bridegroom promised faithfullness and fidelity, before God and the world, with him still loving someone else, and then carrying on physically loving that other person not long into their marriage.

He even wore cufflinks given to him by Camilla, engraved with their own entwined lovey-dovey names, on their honeymoon. Most women I know, if a man was so insensitive and crass to do that, would have been pushed him off the Royal Yacht, or Blackpool Pier, depending where they were having their honeymoon.

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So why are they still 'anging abaate' then?

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You tell them mate as I said before he is a toss pot and hopefully he will never get to be king and the honour will pass to William.

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Granted, and I make no excuse for him. What I am saying is that this lament for Diana is as misguided and ill judged as that marriage. She knew the history and she knew the risks, yet she chose to accept him and took his ring and then wrote her life story before her baying public.

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Are you from Yorkshire or Burnley?

What would you rather have? A Mr Bush, A Junky in a track suite?

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No ---the yanks want shut of him too
"My Queen" "My Creaaatoor"

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She was nineteen!

..and despite her priviliged background, was ill educated, both academically and in the ways of the world. She'd never had a boyfriend, and foolishly thought the man who asked her to be his wife actually loved her.

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I guess we will all have to agree to differ,,,It will be interesting to see what happens on Friday though....

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Let’s hope it’s not Harry are we’ll have a commoner back on the thrown. :D

Actually I think Charles would have made a good head of State, but I will give way and agree with you that perhaps it would be good for the country if the title went to William when the time comes. :)

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As I have said before he was the one carrying on, if Diana tried to get on with her life later she certainly paid with her own life. I will always believe she was done away with because she might have married Dodi and brought shame on the monarchy as if toss pot hadn't. Oh but I forgot he's a man so that's okay!!:mad:

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right lets sum this up- Charles heir to the throne - must have his own heir. Camilla - ugly hanging bag,been around the block a bit- probably a good lay- but NO breeding potential, due to the latter. Diana- average looking bird, NO track record,unlike Camilla, EXCELLANT breeding potential. so its no contest, Charles MUST have an heir.right or wrong thats how they play the game. and that ladies is how i see it.;)

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Bollocks.......she knew what was coming. I don't think she was that Nave and her mother had an history to boot.

As for being ninteen....and?

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Thats what i have been trying to say,,,,:unsure8:

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If you're a monarchist you can't pick who in the line of succession you want. You have to have whoever is next.

It seems strange to me that even Prince Edward's daughter is higher in the line of succession then Princess Anne, because that's the way it works. The off-spring of a son out ranks a daughter.

Pity really, because Princess Anne certainly has more balls than Charles.:D

The list is here, if anyone want's to check where they are on it.:D

Line of succession to the British Throne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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There are rumours that Edward is not Philip's son - that would be a turn up for the books :D

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Princess Anne would be better than any of the blokes,, but even her marriage is very colourful...

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Granny. It is my hope that those who genuinely wish to celebrate the life of Diana and remember her for her good deeds on earth are allowed to do so in peace and harmony. Those who don’t should stay away and allow matters to proceed. Above all else the right and privileges of her lads should be up held and respected.

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Yes, I like her, and yes I would.........:D

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The common theme no less....... "YOU HATE ME" because I'm Different. :rolleyes:

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Ragmans Trumpet springs to mind.:D

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YEP,, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT,,,

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Sir,

Karma in the Post...........:)


and bloody well said. :banjump:

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Some people are worldly at nineteen, others aren't. She certainly wasn't.

She was just a pawn being played by her grandmother Lady Fermoy, and the late Queen Mother.

No one sat her down and explained the situation about having to share her husband with his mistress. If they had she would have had a choice.

I fear your opinion maybe somewhat different if some scummy man had entered into a marriage with a daughter of your's, under the same circumstances. In fact I think you'd probably go after him with a gun.

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I wouldn't worry thorugh. I think they all have a preferance for bitting the odd pillow. It's just that Edwards is more of your floral type than the rest....:)

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So you are a patriotic republican like me?:confused:

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No, he's a put his pac-a-mac in a puddle, genuflecting monarchist, sort of man.;)

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I am off to bed now,, its been an interesting natter,,GOODNIGHT ALL :alright:

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Sir, would we not all..............

But you forget she had a father and a Brother as well as a sister who could well have advised should their concern for her be enought. I feel your care this woman and it is not my will to stab at your wounds or cause offence. But every story as two sides and many shadows between its bindings....

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Nothing personal but put the boot on the other foot and look at it from a womans point of view, he's a stud she's a floozy;)

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I am a individual with an opinon, and Madam, it is my wish to express it.:)

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But they, or anyone else, didn't. Fact.

Her brother was a sixteen year old schoolboy at the time, and as closted and cocooned from real life as Diana was.

Night Granny C xxx

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Don't call me Madam --- I will have you know that I keep an orderly house:p

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Trust me, if someone had done to a daughter of Doug's, what Charles did to Diana, he'd be saying totally the opposite.;)

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Nice one Margaret:D

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Your compliments Sir will not see me on bended knee. I am a gentleman. :D

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Not about Diana, you're not.;)

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Madam, have we met :D

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Daddy's perogative and nothing wrong with that, just wish people could see Charles for what he is!:confused:

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True, maybe it's that I read a different book.

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No Sir and if we had we would probably have punched each others lights out by now!:eek:

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So Bernie - we are both brothel keepers in his opinion

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He's a rich man, self made with an "hard on" for old nags. I must admit I like him for the work he as done in the past, my arguement is that he's not the only one who had dirty hands. But I believe that they both went into it with open eye's, minds and in one case Legs......:o

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Yes my customers are lined up down the street while I finish this debate off:D:D:D

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Without shame. I would agree with him. And so would any man.

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I would never hit a Lady.............:)

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Amazing how living in Bispham warps the mind -- thinking twice now about
my trip to Clevelys

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Margaret, that is not my opinion and I would ask you to forgive any inference I may have give. :o



You doing out' on Saturday afternoon? :D

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Well lets agree to disagree as we did the other night, I will never change my views of Diana and neither will you but it is nice to have a debate without getting personal. Everyone has their own views and that is good:cool:

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Excuse me, my mind was warpped before I left Church thank you very much. :)

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My respect Bernadette..........

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Believe you me you would have hit me to restrain me or I would have killed you before now!!:D:D

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Never, I would have held on for grim death and rolled about a lot......:D:D;)

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Madams like the last word -----goodnight :D

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.........................:)

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In these days of tabolid journalism and Google Page Ranking manipulation , I would suggest that if anyone deserves to carry on with the title 'Peoples Princess" it should be that Colleen girl , Wayne Rooneys fiance , from what I see she is more in touch with the 'common folk' than Diana ever was , doesn't seem to have a decietful bone in her body , no guile or ulterior motives, no pretensions, you get what you see.....a good looking well fed healthy lass , who seems to have her head screwed on right .......;) ;) ;) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




and so to bed ..........

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The long discussion on Tuesday night presented many valid points pro and against monarchy.
I have found this site which presents both sides equally, and should provide interesting reading to all who participated
Royal Jubbly: Monarchy or Republic?

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Thats an interesting site Margaret, i will have a more thoragh look later..
...nice one...:alright:

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I haven't got time now but I'll have a look later;)

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An interesting site indeed. Canada is a monarchy and most of the country ... I would say Quebec is different for good historical, ethnic and cultural reasons .... are quite content with our system. We are a strong, rich, and free democratic country and having Elizabeth II as our monarch does not interfere with any of that. Canadian First Nations people are particularly in favor of the monarchy, and loyal to the crown. I personally do not see any problem with having a head of state who is above and outside politics. The way things are going in the States, with Bush succeeding Bush, and maybe Clinton, Clinton; and with the Kennedy's still powerful in politics, it seems like heredity might be catching on there.

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for all the conspiracy theorists out there , according to this you-tube vid , it was all forseen by Morrisey (singer for the Smiths)

YouTube - The Princess Diana-Morrissey Phenomenon

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I agree with you Willow, it is just that some people will use anything to make out that Diana was putting it around. The fact that the lads have different coloured hair means Charles can't be the father of them both!!!!!

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I love a good conspiracy theory but that is utter twaddle.

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tottaly agree , just attempting to put the thread into its proper perspective :D :D

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There'll never be perspective on it, as long as people carry on believing the conspiracy theories.

This week lots of the press are still claiming she was pregnant, and not by Doddy, oops, meant Dodi.


It's a good thing we didn't find Fiat driver, says police chief | the Daily Mail

'Secret letter' claims Diana pregnancy | Metro.co.uk

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I wish today's memorial service would draw a line under the Diana mystique but I doubt it will. I am tired of hearing and reading about her death, with all the attendant theories, and even more tired of the continuing outpourings about her.

When she died I found the public reaction nauseating and not a little unhealthy. The loud proclamations of grief from people who didn't know her, except as a media image, were disturbing to say the least. It was very like the hysteria whipped up when some film stars have died. It's a sad occasion when any person dies and it's natural to cry for the loss of a friend or loved one but to grieve over a woman known only by her public persona is just idol worship. The "was she murdered?" aspect is very like the "is Elvis really dead?" one and it's constantly fuelled by the media because it sells newspapers.

I don't like Camilla but I don't like the disfunctional family she has married into either. However, whether she had attended today's service or not was their business and no one else's.

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I agree with every word you've said,Westender. I tried to give you karma for that but I have to spread it about.:D

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Totally agree, especially the part about the public reaction. Karma sent.

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I found the service to be touching and genuine. I felt for the lads and their father and wished that this blot on our National Landscape would also end in line with the wishes of the Princes’ and that they, their father and the Nation should move on remembering the good and sincere deeds of Diana and putting behind us the negatives of her short time on this plane. Let her rest now and move forward.

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It is strange all this fuss about the tenth anniversary of her sad demise, and these two very public events to commemorate it.

It's never happened for any other public figure. Churchill, Queen Victoria, no one.

Harry's speech today was good. The only thing I'd have added was that today's memorial be the day all this eulogising ends, and that she's finally allowed to rest in peace. Not much chance of that though, I fear.

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Al Fayed is going to make sure of that, it was said today that he has a big legal team lined up for the inquest!!

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think its time to let it lie.

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He's a sad little man.

Never mind all his conspiracy theories, if he had employed competent security and drivers, Diana would still be alive today.

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is it on a go slow?:rofl38::rofl38:

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I over used it that night.........:D

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It wasn't her choice to lose the title Her Royal Higness, and the offical police security that afforded her.

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No, she chose her course in life. don't blame others for that.

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Ya' gotta' laugh haven't you ... this thread had almost discussed itself out and laid to rest, then along comes someone who bumps up the thread again by complaining about people still wanting to remember Diana. Who's keeping it going I wonder ?

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i also agree with that, what i aint sure of is the "Private" family service, thought it was televised?:confused:

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Diana seems to be a bit like Marmite.

You either lover ot hate it, and the people who dislike it, love to tell you about it.;)

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That's put me off my supper........:rolleyes:

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I think it's highly unlikely that we will ever forget her, there are bound to be differences of opinion regarding whether we should keep mentioning her, but feel it is inevitable that her name will keep cropping up. Whether people like it or not it is bound to happen as the Princes progress through their lives, there are always going to be some members who are interested!

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Well, I for one am certainly not interested.

I woke up yesterday morning and shortly afterwards switched on the telly to the BBC. What did I see? A mini version of the same mass hysteria that gripped large numbers of the otherwise sane population of this country ten years ago. I had hoped that this embarassing episode in our past would never be repeated but it looks like I was wrong. The loonatics were let out of the asylum again.

Anyway, 30 seconds of watching the weeping women and the crackpots in the crowd outside the Guards Chapel was enough; I switched over to ITV and guess what? Exactly the same wastrels popped up there. I decided I'd had enough and did the sensible thing and went back to bed.

I trust we won't get more of this nonsense in another 10 years time.

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That's so sad.:(

You were expecting Cash in the Attic and Bargain Hunt, and all that was on was this.:D