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garinda 26-08-2007 23:35

Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
 
The coming Friday sees the memorial service for Diana Princess of Wales, from the Wellington Barracks in London.

In attendance, accompanied by her present husband, and Diana's former husband, will be the Duchess of Cornwall, or 'the Rottweiler' as Diana referred to her, or Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles as we more commonly know her.

Apparently she was invited by her stepsons, the Princes William and Harry.

I respect their wishes, but can't help thinking their mother would be spinning in her grave, at the thought of someone she reportedly said ruined her chance of hapiness with the man she loved...whatever love is, to coin Prince Charle's memorable comment on their engagement.

We live in a world were many families are fragmented, and step relationships are common, so this won't be a situation unique to the Royal family, but I can't help thinking it's all a bit strange.

Is there anyone you'd send bolts of lightning crashing down to the church for, if they dared show their face at your memorial service?

MargaretR 26-08-2007 23:38

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You haven't kept up with the news today Gary - she has backed out (and rightly so)

I dont care who shows at my funeral because I wont be there

Royboy39 26-08-2007 23:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464372)
The coming Friday sees the memorial service for Diana Princess of Wales, from the Wellington Barracks in London.

In attendance, accompanied by her present husband, and Diana's former husband, will be the Duchess of Cornwall, or 'the Rottweiler' as Diana referred to her, or Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles as we more commonly know her.

Apparently she was invited by her stepsons, the Princes William and Harry.

I respect their wishes, but can't help thinking their mother would be spinning in her grave, at the thought of someone she reportedly said ruined her chance of hapiness with the man she loved...whatever love is, to coin Prince Charle's memorable comment on their engagement.

We live in a world were many families are fragmented, and step relationships are common, so this won't be a situation unique to the Royal family, but I can't help thinking it's all a bit strange.

Is there anyone you'd send bolts of lightning crashing down to the church for, if they dared show their face at your memorial service?

What a sorry individual this is :o and I don't mean Camilla.

garinda 26-08-2007 23:39

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 464373)
You haven't kept up with the news today Gary - she has backed out (and rightly so)

Are you sure? On the radio earlier it said she was going.

shillelagh 26-08-2007 23:41

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She's not going now Rindy. It was on the news tonight that shes decided not to go. 'It will divert from the real purpose of the memorial service for Diana'
BBC NEWS | UK | Camilla pulls out of Diana event

I think if she had gone that is all anyone would have talked about. I have not nice memories of 10 years ago i was coming back from Ireland from a funeral when we heard on the radio about the car crash.

At mine - i wont be there to party will i? So im not bothered really who's there and who's not just want everyone to have a good party.

garinda 26-08-2007 23:41

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 464373)
You haven't kept up with the news today Gary - she has backed out (and rightly so)

I dont care who shows at my funeral because I wont be there

You're right, just checked the latest news.

A wise move in my opinion.:D

MargaretR 26-08-2007 23:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464375)
Are you sure? On the radio earlier it said she was going.

Just checked BBC news site again - she aint going

garinda 26-08-2007 23:43

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'Protesters threatened to pelt her with eggs if she turned up to take her front-row seat.'

Camilla to miss Diana memorial service | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited

They probably would have as well.

MargaretR 26-08-2007 23:44

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I have had husbands (plural!!!) - but never nicked anybody elses

garinda 26-08-2007 23:48

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 464380)
I have had husbands (plural!!!) - but never nicked anybody elses

It's the same at weddings nowadays for a lot of families. Some people have four sets of parents who all hate each other, but have to grin and bear it for the day, for the sake of their children.

At least Diana won't have to face that when her sons marry. Camilla will be sat there alone in her mother of the groom hat.

Perhaps Diana will save her lightning bolts for that, and set it on fire.:D

MargaretR 26-08-2007 23:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464381)
It's the same at weddings nowadays for a lot of families. Some people have four sets of parents who all hate each other, but have to grin and bear it for the day, for the sake of their children.

I didnt encounter that problem fortunately. My 1st husband died before my son married , but I was on good terms with his 2nd wife, who as his widow, did attend.

PS there had been no husband stealing involved

garinda 27-08-2007 00:04

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 464382)
I didnt encounter that problem fortunately. My 1st husband died before my son married , but I was on good terms with his 2nd wife, who as his widow, did attend.

Happily that is sometimes the case, and good for you for being sociable. However, I've attended weddings were a knife would have been better used to cut the atmosphere rather than the cake.

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 00:16

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My hat goes off to William and Harry for being man enough to invite her in the first place. That speaks volumes to me about what great young men they are, if we feel outraged at the thought of Camilla attending how must they feel? At the end of the day Diana was their mother and if they feel she has a right to be invited who are we to object? I am just glad she won't be there but by the same token I don't think Charles should be there either, just my humble opinion but why should he be there? He didn't love or respect Our Beautiful Princess so why bother going to her memorial?

cashman 27-08-2007 00:17

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just heard on sky news,she backed out cos the queen told her too. bad publicity for em n all that crap. pmsl the dummy got the bad press by accepting the invitation.;)

Doug 27-08-2007 00:19

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464379)
'Protesters threatened to pelt her with eggs if she turned up to take her front-row seat.'

Camilla to miss Diana memorial service | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited

They probably would have as well.

Then they won’t be respecting the life and passing of the mother of William & Harry. They would also be disrespecting William & Harry and their acceptance of their step mother.

I accept the right of the family and the people to both remember and celebrate Diana and her life and deeds, but I despise those within the media that would attempt to trade and profit from a death that they and Diana herself brought about.

It is time to let this lady rest in peace and allow the family and the Nation to move on.

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 00:21

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464387)
My hat goes off to William and Harry for being man enough to invite her in the first place. That speaks volumes to me about what great young men they are, if we feel outraged at the thought of Camilla attending how must they feel? At the end of the day Diana was their mother and if they feel she has a right to be invited who are we to object? I am just glad she won't be there but by the same token I don't think Charles should be there either, just my humble opinion but why should he be there? He didn't love or respect Our Beautiful Princess so why bother going to her memorial?

Well said Bernadette,,,,the all thing is turning into a farse..

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 00:27

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464390)
Well said Bernadette,,,,the all thing is turning into a farse..

Why should Charles be there? He was the one in the wrong!!:mad:

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 00:31

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I know Diana had a few flings ,but she would have never done so if slagbag had kept her nose out of their lives ...and Charlie had kept it in his pants,,,
No matter how they say people are accepting her ,,I am not..:mad:

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 00:40

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464398)
I know Diana had a few flings ,but she would have never done so if slagbag had kept her nose out of their lives ...and Charlie had kept it in his pants,,,
No matter how they say people are accepting her ,,I am not..:mad:

Diana would not have had any flings if she had not been betrayed, he should never have married Diana, she was far to good for him!!:mad:

Doug 27-08-2007 00:45

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Bollocks ladies. Two wrongs do make a right. He's the father of at least one of Diana's Children and has a right to be there.

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 00:50

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464405)
Bollocks ladies. Two wrongs do make a right. He's the father of at least one of Diana's Children and has a right to be there.

oooh Doug ,,are you questioning Harry,s paternity:):o

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 00:54

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464405)
Bollocks ladies. Two wrongs do make a right. He's the father of at least one of Diana's Children and has a right to be there.

WHY? My ex is the father to both my children, that does not give him the right to attend my funeral service when I die and he didn't cheat on me so blatantly(as far as I know). Why does Charles have the right? We all know he was bothering with Camilla for most if not all the time he was with Diana so why be a bloody hypocrite?

Doug 27-08-2007 00:55

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464407)
oooh Doug ,,are you questioning Harry,s paternity:):o

Well at least he’s of European appearance.

My Dearest Granny, I apologise for using the “b” word to you. Please accept a firm handshake and allow me to kiss your cheeks……:)

cashman 27-08-2007 00:55

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whilst i have great respect for what diana did with certain charities n am one of firmly thinks the royals did a number on her, i find it hard to believe she didn't know the score when she married into royalty,look back in the history of these people n they all think they are entitled to " a bit on the side" she was from an upper class family who certainly must know the carryings on of em.i think she was badly advised by her family n probably thought she could change him, for which she had no chance, she loved him, he didnt really give a rats just wanted heirs.

cashman 27-08-2007 00:56

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464407)
oooh Doug ,,are you questioning Harry,s paternity:):o

J H, end of story.:p

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 00:57

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464407)
oooh Doug ,,are you questioning Harry,s paternity:):o

Don't they all Granny? Well I think both lads are his and I wouldn't like to be the one to tell those lads they aren't brothers!!:eek:

Doug 27-08-2007 00:58

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464408)
WHY? My ex is the father to both my children, that does not give him the right to attend my funeral service when I die and he didn't cheat on me so blatantly(as far as I know). Why does Charles have the right? We all know he was bothering with Camilla for most if not all the time he was with Diana so why be a bloody hypocrite?

If it was the wish of your children Bernadette would you dyne them? Diana made her Bed and many other’s by all accounts. Like I said, two wrongs don’t make a right.

cashman 27-08-2007 01:00

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464412)
Don't they all Granny? Well I think both lads are his and I wouldn't like to be the one to tell those lads they aren't brothers!!:eek:

think yer in the minority with that un bernie.;)

Doug 27-08-2007 01:00

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464412)
Don't they all Granny? Well I think both lads are his and I wouldn't like to be the one to tell those lads they aren't brothers!!:eek:

Give up.........:eek: Come here and let me kiss your cheeks....:D

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 01:05

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464409)
Well at least he’s of European appearance.

My Dearest Granny, I apologise for using the “b” word to you. Please accept a firm handshake and allow me to kiss your cheeks……:)


no appoligy neaded:):) .ERM i am not quite sure which cheeks you mean :confused:;)

Doug 27-08-2007 01:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 464410)
whilst i have great respect for what diana did with certain charities n am one of firmly thinks the royals did a number on her, i find it hard to believe she didn't know the score when she married into royalty,look back in the history of these people n they all think they are entitled to " a bit on the side" she was from an upper class family who certainly must know the carryings on of em.i think she was badly advised by her family n probably thought she could change him, for which she had no chance, she loved him, he didnt really give a rats just wanted heirs.

Respect yes, but I didn’t like Diana, or the partnership she openly entered with the media. I was at work one afternoon watching her sunning herself with her gentleman friend on the deck of a boat. One of my colleagues commented on how happy she looked, I responded by crying shame and stating that she would be dead by the end of the month, she was and I have no doubt it was an accident, of sorts.

Doug 27-08-2007 01:10

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464417)
no appoligy neaded:):) .ERM i am not quite sure which cheeks you mean :confused:;)

Put' house coat on and wash thy face, I’ll be o’er in 5 minutes…:D

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 01:12

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464414)
If it was the wish of your children Bernadette would you dyne them? Diana made her Bed and many other’s by all accounts. Like I said, two wrongs don’t make a right.

If my ex was there I couldn't do anything about it(only haunt the git) but if we must we will disagree on this one. As far as I am concerned Diana is innocent in all this and would never have strayed if her nose had not been rubbed in the proverbial muck, if I could swear I would but don't want to get banned!!

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 01:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 464415)
think yer in the minority with that un bernie.;)

Well in the minority I shall remain, still wouldn't like to tell them lads they ain't brothers(blood or not):(

Doug 27-08-2007 01:15

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464420)
If my ex was there I couldn't do anything about it(only haunt the git) but if we must we will disagree on this one. As far as I am concerned Diana is innocent in all this and would never have strayed if her nose had not been rubbed in the proverbial muck, if I could swear I would but don't want to get banned!!

Madam, it is your prerogative and I will respect it. :)

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 01:17

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Got to admit Harry is the double of James Hewit ,,,:)

Doug 27-08-2007 01:18

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464421)
Well in the minority I shall remain, still wouldn't like to tell them lads they ain't brothers(blood or not):(

I would doubt that they didn't already know the truth of the matter, whatever that truth may prove to be. In my heart I would hope that they are, but I woiuldn't want to put money on it.

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 01:21

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464423)
Got to admit Harry is the double of James Hewit ,,,:)

Maybe so Granny but blood isn't everything, there is one thing for sure they both share a beautiful mother!!:)

Doug 27-08-2007 01:21

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464423)
Got to admit Harry is the double of James Hewit ,,,:)

Double Madam, There from the same sack of seed, they must be to be that close. :)

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 01:25

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464409)
Well at least he’s of European appearance.

My Dearest Granny, I apologise for using the “b” word to you. Please accept a firm handshake and allow me to kiss your cheeks……:)

And why does Granny get an apology and not me?:confused: I have never used any bad language(may have been tempted) but still haven't done it!!;)

Doug 27-08-2007 01:25

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464426)
Maybe so Granny but blood isn't everything, there is one thing for sure they both share a beautiful mother!!:)


There was cry in a dark corner of Bispham:-

"Woman", "Fetch me the Brandy, a bucket and my gun"....:D

Doug 27-08-2007 01:28

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464428)
And why does Granny get an apology and not me?:confused: I have never used any bad language(may have been tempted) but still haven't done it!!;)

And prey Madam, where would you like me to kiss your cheeks? ;)

I beg you, Madam. Forgive me. I souldn't call you before I've met you. :)

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 01:29

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464426)
Maybe so Granny but blood isn't everything, there is one thing for sure they both share a beautiful mother!!:)

I cant argue with that Bernadette ,She was beautiful and too good for Charles , I too think she was blinded by love .

Doug 27-08-2007 01:34

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464431)
I cant argue with that Bernadette ,She was beautiful and too good for Charles , I too think she was blinded by love .


Oh Bollocks............:eek:

Ladies, we will never really know, but it if it paints a picture that people can live and be at ease with, then I will submit to your beliefs on the matter.

Ladies, Goodnight and God Bless. :)

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 01:39

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464433)
Oh Bollocks............:eek:

Ladies, we will never really know, but it if it paints a picture that people can live and be at ease with, then I will submit to your beliefs on the matter.

Ladies, Goodnight and God Bless. :)

Goodnight and God Bless to you to Doug;)

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 01:42

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Good night and god bless Doug,,, Good night Bernadette,, ,i am now off for a game of spider,,then bed:)

Ianto.W. 27-08-2007 14:23

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464417)
no appoligy neaded:):) .ERM i am not quite sure which cheeks you mean :confused:;)

you really do not want to go down there Doug:D

grannyclaret 27-08-2007 22:52

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 464530)
you really do not want to go down there Doug:D

oh dear,,,,,,:o:o:o:o:o:o:)

garinda 27-08-2007 22:59

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464405)
Bollocks ladies. Two wrongs do make a right. He's the father of at least one of Diana's Children and has a right to be there.

The Spencers have a long history of red heads in their family, going right back to the seventeenth century and the Duchess of Marlborough, Sarah Churchill, as well as Diana's own sister Sarah.

katex 27-08-2007 23:30

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Been resisting this thread all day .. thank goodness that despictable woman has seen fit to see sense and not attend the memorial to Princess Diane.. how could she possibly think that it would not incite strong feelings in the first place .. insensitive cow. I also think that Prince William/Harry are just a little too inexperienced to appreciate the implications, and had been persuaded by other bodies to invite her.

Seems a shame that this tribute is shrouded by controversy of the guests, e.g Bishop of London and many of her long term friends like Burrell (even though problems after her death, was supportive whilst she lived) have been ignored.

As for the rubbish about the paternity ... Diane did not meet this guy until Harry was two years old, and people are only seeing the red hair, putting 2 and 2 together and getting 105. Just wanting to see what they want and they think is juicy. To me, he does favour Charles with Diane's complexion (the blushing cheeks) but, oh dear, excuse me, Red Hair .. so can't be Charles's.

As he is second in line to the throne, feel sure has been established that he is not 'A Pretender' as would have to take on this role should anything happen to William. Could go on and on, but sure you have all glazed over already and only want to read selectively.

BERNADETTE 27-08-2007 23:42

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I'm with you on this Kate, I think she was badly hurt and now people are casting aspersions on her character, she is worth more than that!!

SPUGGIE J 28-08-2007 00:07

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My thoughts on it are as follows;

At the end of the day the establishment and the flunkies in the palace got what they want in a heir and a spare. They were not bothered about what Charles wanted just what they wanted and needed. Diana was a pawn in the grand scheme they thought up. Ok Camilla was not ideal material in there somewhat sorry very blinkered eyes and to me those flunkies and co are as much to blame as everyone that chased and harassed her.

As for Camilla yes she is right not to go and wrong as well. On the one hand the lads might not want her there and so would the majority of those that attend. On the other hand she should be there for her hubby who is there for his lads.

Catch 22.

Doug 28-08-2007 00:14

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 464709)
My thoughts on it are as follows;

At the end of the day the establishment and the flunkies in the palace got what they want in a heir and a spare. They were not bothered about what Charles wanted just what they wanted and needed. Diana was a pawn in the grand scheme they thought up. Ok Camilla was not ideal material in there somewhat sorry very blinkered eyes and to me those flunkies and co are as much to blame as everyone that chased and harassed her.

As for Camilla yes she is right not to go and wrong as well. On the one hand the lads might not want her there and so would the majority of those that attend. On the other hand she should be there for her hubby who is there for his lads.

Catch 22.


I can agree with that...................

steeljack 28-08-2007 02:13

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 464709)
My thoughts on it are as follows;

At the end of the day the establishment and the flunkies in the palace got what they want in a heir and a spare. They were not bothered about what Charles wanted just what they wanted and needed. Diana was a pawn in the grand scheme they thought up. Ok Camilla was not ideal material in there somewhat sorry very blinkered eyes and to me those flunkies and co are as much to blame as everyone that chased and harassed her.

As for Camilla yes she is right not to go and wrong as well. On the one hand the lads might not want her there and so would the majority of those that attend. On the other hand she should be there for her hubby who is there for his lads.

Catch 22.

sums up my thoughts completly ,

I don't see anything wrong with 'Camilla' , seems to me if she had been allowed to be the 'prize heifer' the lads would maybe a bit 'brighter' :rolleyes:

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 13:32

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 464718)
sums up my thoughts completly ,

I don't see anything wrong with 'Camilla' , seems to me if she had been allowed to be the 'prize heifer' the lads would maybe a bit 'brighter' :rolleyes:

Isn't that the whole point, she was to old and also married so poor beautiful Diana was used for their breeding!!! As far as I can see those boys are doing just fine considering what they have been through. Being a royal does not stop you from having feelings. Judging by the stories in the papers today Camilla has alienated the people again by contemplating attending the service:(

Doug 28-08-2007 13:53

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She will never be as popular as Diana that goes without saying, but she is the wife of Charles and the Step mother of the lads and should be accorded some respect by those professing to have the Princes best interest at heart. Diana craved, sought and used publicity to project herself and like all deals done with the devil there’s a cost, regrettably she paid it.

Had she have lived the situation for all concerned would have darkened. I have no doubt that she loved her friend Dodi and would have married into the family sooner or later and that relationship between the crown, the Al fyads and the people would have brought this country down.

I wouldn’t wish death on any person and could it have been different then so be it, but she did die and she is with the gentleman she loved and undoubtedly if this is true the she will have found happiness.

We need to remember the true person, the mother of William and Harry and forget all this publicised bunkum of who did what to who and move on. We all live our lives in a manner in which we ourselves choose. So did she, but the bull**** behind you and move on.

MargaretR 28-08-2007 14:04

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Monarchy, like religion, was invented by primitive societies
We will grow out of them both eventually

garinda 28-08-2007 14:30

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 464797)
Isn't that the whole point, she was to old and also married so poor beautiful Diana was used for their breeding!!! As far as I can see those boys are doing just fine considering what they have been through. Being a royal does not stop you from having feelings. Judging by the stories in the papers today Camilla has alienated the people again by contemplating attending the service:(

Things have happily changed so in the quarter century since Charles married Diana.

Camilla was never a contender as a Royal bride because she wasn't a virgin, and before the engagement Diana's uncle felt obliged to tell the press that Diana had kept herself 'tidy', all to ensure a pure Royal bloodline.

Nowadays the second in line to the throne was basically living as man and wife with Kate Middleton. Whoever Prince William choses as his bride, I think he'll now be able to marry someone he actually loves.

Gayle 28-08-2007 15:22

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 464431)
I too think she was blinded by love .


I think she was blinded by the fact that she would be a princess and one day Queen. Come on, wouldn't all women want that, regardless of love, or at the very least consider it?

She was young, very naive but she learnt very fast. She positioned herself in the hearts of the public, if not in the heart of the prince. She has been gone for 10 years, and whilst I am genuinely sorry for the two boys and her close family, she should be laid to rest. By continually harping on about her it undermines the whole fabric of the royal family.

The press are having a field day about Camilla and whether she should go or not. Like her or hate her, if she was invited by the princes then she has every reason to go. Why should some tatty newspapers make the decision about who is or isn't suitable to attend a memorial service? She was invited - end of!

Doug 28-08-2007 16:48

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A level headed woman with brains and tact, you should go into Politics Gayle. ;) Totally agree..:)

Gayle 28-08-2007 18:34

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464842)
A level headed woman with brains and tact, you should go into Politics Gayle. ;) Totally agree..:)

Somehow I don't think I could end a point in the local council chamber with 'I'm right, you're wrong - end of!' It might not carry the same political weight. :D

katex 28-08-2007 18:41

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I think we will all have an opinion about this one .. whilst the Prince's did invite her and yes, up to her whether she accepted, still should have been a common sense and moralistic one to turn it down.

Anyway, back to Garinda's original question. I have no one that I would not wish to come to my funeral ... more the merrier I say .. would make me seem like I had been poplular .. :D

What about you Garinda ? .. after all, you asked the question.

bullseyebarb 28-08-2007 18:44

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[quote=garinda;464372]The coming Friday sees the memorial service for Diana Princess of Wales, from the Wellington Barracks in London.quote]


Why are you all so hung up on this woman? Chuck was in love with Camilla when he married Diana. Diana knew Chuck was in love with Camilla when she married him. One might say that Chuck was more the guilty party since he was so much older than Diana and should have shown more maturity. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because it has no bearing on your personal lives or what is really important in your country and the world at large.

It would seem that William and Harry like Camilla. Time to move on.

lindsay ormerod 28-08-2007 18:48

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If it's any help Barb, I don't get it either . Never liked the woman , no great loss to me, deffo time to move on.

MargaretR 28-08-2007 18:49

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 464877)
Time to move on.

----and become a true democratic republic

cashman 28-08-2007 18:55

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[QUOTE=bullseyebarb;464877]
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464372)
The coming Friday sees the memorial service for Diana Princess of Wales, from the Wellington Barracks in London.quote]


Why are you all so hung up on this woman? Chuck was in love with Camilla when he married Diana. Diana knew Chuck was in love with Camilla when she married him. One might say that Chuck was more the guilty party since he was so much older than Diana and should have shown more maturity. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because it has no bearing on your personal lives or what is really important in your country and the world at large.

It would seem that William and Harry like Camilla. Time to move on.

says it all, nice one barb.;)

katex 28-08-2007 19:03

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[QUOTE=bullseyebarb;464877]
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464372)

It would seem that William and Harry like Camilla. Time to move on.

That was the idea of this memorial service, one final tribute to 'this woman'.

Can say that about lots of people though can't we ? Elvis for example... time we moved on there too ..still lots of people making loads of money out of his memory though, so certain bodies will be reluctant to do so.

Sorry Garinda, has done that incorrect quote thingy .. was Bullseye I was trying to quote.

garinda 28-08-2007 19:13

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464875)
What about you Garinda ? .. after all, you asked the question.

No one has ever really hurt me, so there's no one I'd ban from my memorial/wake.

However, if someone did knowingly harm me or mine, I can't say I'd be too chuffed at them coming to dance on my grave.:D

garinda 28-08-2007 19:14

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 464880)
----and become a true democratic republic

Although the lives of the inbred Germans are fascinating, I'm with you on that one.:)

cashman 28-08-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 464895)

However, if someone did knowingly harm me or mine, I can't say I'd be too chuffed at them coming to dance on my grave.:D

that would suit me,i'm being buried at sea.:D

katex 28-08-2007 21:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 464917)
that would suit me,i'm being buried at sea.:D

I'm quite a good swimmer .. :D






Only joking, would only dance on yer grave as a tribute to the music you love so much. x

Doug 28-08-2007 21:45

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464956)
I'm quite a good swimmer .. :D

Only joking, would only dance on yer grave as a tribute to the music you love so much. x

Oh dear.....................Bucket please......:D

katex 28-08-2007 21:48

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 464959)
Oh dear.....................Bucket please......:D

\________/ .. there you are sir, would not wish you to vomit your verbal diarrhoea on your carpet ..:rolleyes::)

Doug 28-08-2007 21:49

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 464961)
\________/ .. there you are sir, would not wish you to vomit on your carpet ..:rolleyes:


Thank you................something for the weekend dear.....:)

SPUGGIE J 28-08-2007 21:58

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Wonder if the stupid stuck up blinkered self serving bandits at Buck House will
do the same to wee Willy Windsor? Hope they have learned there lesson with the Charlie, Di and Milla but somehow I doubt it. So if it happens again might be bye bye Windsors hello Mr Pres.

Royboy39 28-08-2007 22:05

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 464973)
Wonder if the stupid stuck up blinkered self serving bandits at Buck House will
do the same to wee Willy Windsor? Hope they have learned there lesson with the Charlie, Di and Milla but somehow I doubt it. So if it happens again might be bye bye Windsors hello Mr Pres.

What a pathetic end to a nonsense thread :mad:

Doug 28-08-2007 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 464973)
Wonder if the stupid stuck up blinkered self serving bandits at Buck House will
do the same to wee Willy Windsor? Hope they have learned there lesson with the Charlie, Di and Milla but somehow I doubt it. So if it happens again might be bye bye Windsors hello Mr Pres.

I doubt that we would end up with a President lording it over England’s increasing brown land. I think we’d slip back to Lord Protector Title whilst Parliament continued to screw the rest of us to support the real Presidents Holy Wars’ that is if our current flock of fluck ups don’t turn us into an Islamist state though immigration first.

This was and should still be a proud country with a history that as defied Republican pretences. The monarchy is an institution that flows throughout every avenue of our culture, religion, Military and civil services. Why change it for something false and fleeting without stature or pride. France almost destroyed herself, America almost certainly will if she continues on her current path, although from her birth she is the world’s only real Republic……..

The Glorious Republic of England…….Bollocks.

Long Live the King, St George and England…….

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 22:30

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 464979)
What a pathetic end to a nonsense thread :mad:

Pathetic to some people maybe, but a lot of us did and still do think of Diana with affection and always will. Have your own opinion by all means but do not try and belittle us for having ours.:(

MargaretR 28-08-2007 22:51

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I doubt that we would end up with a President lording it over England’s increasing brown land. I think we’d slip back to Lord Protector Title whilst Parliament continued to screw the rest of us to support the real Presidents Holy Wars’ that is if our current flock of fluck ups don’t turn us into an Islamist state though immigration first.

This was and should still be a proud country with a history that as defied Republican pretences. The monarchy is an institution that flows throughout every avenue of our culture, religion, Military and civil services. Why change it for something false and fleeting without stature or pride. France almost destroyed herself, America almost certainly will if she continues on her current path, although from her birth she is the world’s only real Republic……..

The Glorious Republic of England…….Bollocks.

Long Live the King, St George and England…….

I have heard this before-----"My Queen" :D

SPUGGIE J 28-08-2007 22:51

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 464979)
What a pathetic end to a nonsense thread :mad:

You are entitled to your opinion. So as the thread is based on something that will happen and will be all over the goggle box you wont be watching the telly then?

Doug 28-08-2007 23:10

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 465000)
I have heard this before-----"My Queen" :D


No, no your thinking of Rindy Roo, he's the only Queen I know on here. :D


Pray tell, what did you find to be racist in my post? :confused: you silly moo....:D

grannyclaret 28-08-2007 23:10

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There are loads of countries that wish they had a monachy,,,The queen has done a stirling job,,,Its a shame Charlie diddent have more respect for Diana,,without his bit on the side ,they could have been the perfect family...,

cashman 28-08-2007 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 464979)
What a pathetic end to a nonsense thread :mad:

yer entitled to yer opinion roy n mine is yer an ignorant get.:(

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 23:15

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 465009)
There are loads of countries that wish they had a monachy,,,The queen has done a stirling job,,,Its a shame Charlie diddent have more respect for Diana,,without his bit on the side ,they could have been the perfect family...,

Well said Granny, people tend to forget that he was putting it about for most if not all of the time he was married to Diana, he must have had his eyes shut because her beauty shone both inside and out. She was great.

MargaretR 28-08-2007 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 465008)
No, no your thinking of Rindy Roo, he's the only Queen I know on here. :D


Pray tell, what did you find to be racist in my post? :confused: you silly moo....:D

Not racist - just royalist

Doug 28-08-2007 23:19

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 465013)
Not racist - just royalist


OK................:)

Doug 28-08-2007 23:24

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 465012)
Well said Granny, people tend to forget that he was putting it about for most if not all of the time he was married to Diana, he must have had his eyes shut because her beauty shone both inside and out. She was great.

That depends on who's dribble you read at the time does it not.......:)

I like Charles, I didn't much care for Diana, but they where, are, both to blame for the failure of their marrage. Would you have hold the same views if she had lived and was humping left right and centre.

Ianto.W. 28-08-2007 23:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 465011)
yer entitled to yer opinion roy n mine is yer an ignorant get.:(

Thar a good judge Cashy i've just remembered who yon mon is he used to go down blackburn dogs with our gang years ago he couldn't pick a winner down there either sorry roy no offence:D:pyou must remember doctor soyuaves trainer,me, wilf kehoe lol edleston and big john walsh 'the giant pipe' my best dog were homeward bound chin chin:D:D:p

MargaretR 28-08-2007 23:31

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They have all been 'putting it about' for CENTURIES
--its just that we have only been aware of it in the last few decades

so think about joining the club
Republic & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

grannyclaret 28-08-2007 23:31

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 465016)
That depends on who's dribble you read at the time does it not.......:)

I like Charles, I didn't much care for Diana, but they where, are, both to blame for the failure of their marrage. Would you have hold the same views if she had lived and was humping left right and centre.

But thats just it,, She wouldent have gone astray ,if Charlie haddent been such a rat,,, Would you be happy if you found your newly married partner was still having a relationship with an old flame?:confused:

BERNADETTE 28-08-2007 23:36

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 465016)
That depends on who's dribble you read at the time does it not.......:)

I like Charles, I didn't much care for Diana, but they where, are, both to blame for the failure of their marrage. Would you have hold the same views if she had lived and was humping left right and centre.

I think their marriage would have still been going strong if he had kept it in his pants. At the end of the day he should never have married her and wewouldn't be having this debate. In my opinion he is a toss pot and not fit to ever be our king, never was and never will be fit to be head of this country!:mad: Diana was in my opinion a beautiful and naive young girl who went like a lamb to the slaughter and for her trouble was disposed!:(

cashman 28-08-2007 23:40

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 465021)
Thar a good judge Cashy i've just remembered who yon mon is he used to go down blackburn dogs with our gang years ago he couldn't pick a winner down there either sorry roy no offence:D:pyou must remember doctor soyuaves trainer,me, wilf kehoe lol edleston and big john walsh 'the giant pipe' my best dog were homeward bound chin chin:D:D:p

not the first time thats been said;) i aint a big diana fan, or royalist for that matter,but can understand n respect the feelings people have on the subject.

MargaretR 28-08-2007 23:44

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But thats just it,, She wouldent have gone astray ,if Charlie haddent been such a rat,,, Would you be happy if you found your newly married partner was still having a relationship with an old flame?:confused:

Be realistic Grannie - she probably would - that (thingy*) comes second only to blood sports as the favourite pastime of the aristocracy

*

garinda 28-08-2007 23:48

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 465024)
In my opinion he is a toss pot and not fit to ever be our king, never was and never will be fit to be head of this country!

He believes it is his birthright, because of a divine right, to be King, and God's representative here on earth.

When in fact he's really just an ordinary man, who but for the privileges accorded by his position, didn't even have enough academic qualifications to go to university, let alone his alma mater Cambridge, yet he still feels able to lecture the rest of us on subjects ranging from architecture to town planning. It's just morality he's a bit lacking on.

It's all very primitive and feudal if you ask me.

MargaretR 28-08-2007 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 465028)
He believes it is his birthright, because of a divine right, to be King, and God's representative here on earth.

When in fact he's really just an ordinary man, who but for the privileges accorded by his position, didn't even have enough academic qualifications to go to university, let alone his alma mater Cambridge, yet he still feels able to lecture the rest of us on subjects ranging from architecture to town planning. It's just morality he's a bit lacking on.

It's all very primitive and feudal if you ask me.

And I bet he has a limp handshake :D

grannyclaret 28-08-2007 23:54

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 465030)
And I bet he has a limp handshake :D

:rofl38::rofl38:: ooh Margaret:rofl38::

garinda 28-08-2007 23:55

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 465030)
And I bet he has a limp handshake :D

He hasn't actually. Clammy but quite firm.;):D

MargaretR 28-08-2007 23:57

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 465033)
He hasn't actually. Clammy but quite firm.;):D

Name dropper:p -- I must tell you that I refused an invite to a palace garden party:p

Doug 28-08-2007 23:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 465024)
I think their marriage would have still been going strong if he had kept it in his pants. At the end of the day he should never have married her and wewouldn't be having this debate. In my opinion he is a toss pot and not fit to ever be our king, never was and never will be fit to be head of this country!:mad: Diana was in my opinion a beautiful and naive young girl who went like a lamb to the slaughter and for her trouble was disposed!:(

Diana was in my opinion a fairly good looking, unstable but calculating young woman who went like a lamb to the Tup at every opportunity. She was no Snow White Ladies; don’t make her out to be the tragic beauty who laid her Brest to the teeth of the beast. She wasn’t. Her life was painfully short and troubled I’ll admit but she wrote each and every chapter by her own deeds. There where no innocents in this story, neither Shakespeare nor Noel Coward could have wrote it better.

Doug 29-08-2007 00:04

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He believes it is his birthright, because of a divine right, to be King, and God's representative here on earth.
Steady on Mandy, you’re an educated man and know only too well that an Englishmen laid down the lives of many to end the Divine right of Kings.


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