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I only quoted the part of your post that I was replying to. You said it.

What sort of state run employment would you suggest for those claiming benefit?

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i am sure there are many worthwhile causes out there that could benefit from a few more "helpers",

enviromental clean up campaigns
citizens advice
help the aged

i am sure everyone could think of at least 1, yes it would require administration, but that in itself is job creation, and i would rather my taxes where paying someones wage, than just paying them to sit at home with richard and judy!

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Yes it does. It's all very flawed.

Another case of lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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The first example would result in people who are now employed losing their job, the second two could be done now voluntary, as those claiming benefit can work up to fifteen hours per week.

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It maybe another case of statistics being massaged, but this DWP press release makes for more encouraging reading.

'Since 1997, the number of people in work has increased by over 2.5 million and every single day around 250 people have come off out of work benefits.'

DWP Press release: Murphy: number on benefits down, as employment hits record levels 14 Feb 07

We could always cut the non-means tested child benefit, that is paid to all children regardless of how much their paren't earn, to pay for in genuine dire straits.;)

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Clean up campaigns would be better done by prison chain gangs, at least then they can earn their lavish lifestyle :)

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I've often thought it's strange that child benefit isn't means tested. Anyone who has a child gets it don't they? That will include the likes of Madonna and Victoria Beckham. I'm bet they wouldn't even notice whether it was paid in or not.

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Yes, it does seem strange that every child gets this benefit, whether your mum is a cleaner on the minimum wage, or the Countess of Wessex.

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i dont get your point at all, i thought the whole point of what i was saying was to make it mandatory, so yes they can be done at the moment volantary, your point being?, i thought we were talking about the ones who wont do anything, not the minority that already do!

as for enviroment clean up campaigns, i always see adverts asking for unpaid help, so whose job would this take, and also if it meant unemployment it would be nowhere near the 1 in 4 that the thread is titled after

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and how many of them went on disability, the phrase is out of work benefits, if your sick you arent out of work, the point i tried to make in earlier post

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What would you do with the people who currently work at the C.A.B., and Help the Aged, many of whom will be there voluntary and may already be claiming benefits?

You have to find 'work' for five million people on benefits, and so far you seem to be struggling.

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struggling? strange term to use, since it is a comment placed on a local forum, not that i am actually writing a manifesto here or anything!

even though when questioned, i did supply examples

but i am sure if i was to actually canvas the populous, genuine worthwhile causes could be found, the loose term of worthwhile causes should be more than ample to cover a hyperthetical argument, dont you think

as far the current CAB and help the aged, i gaurantee if you were to call either of these organisations this minute and state you wish to donate some of your time they would readily accept.

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