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panther 30-08-2007 14:06

Measles Warning To Parents
 
Measles Warning To Parents |Sky News|UK News



my kids have been protected agaisnt MMR so im glad i got them done,
we all know why its come back , because of parents not giving it to them in fear of Autism:rolleyes:, which i think personally is a load of rubbish!:( measles can be life threatening!!

Lolly 30-08-2007 14:18

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I was on holiday when Harry was supposed to have his. Waiting now for a repeat appointment, maybe I should chase it up!?

flashy 30-08-2007 16:40

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i would if i where you lolly, better to be safe than sorry, reece had his when he was a baby too and i dont regret it for one moment

jackyalex 30-08-2007 17:22

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well all my kids had their mmr at 18 months old,but i refused the second mmr for 5 yr olds,because i think that the first mmr was enough,2 of my kids were in hospital after they had their mmr,they both reacted to the injection so i refuse to let them have anymore and i dont think that parents should be blamed for not giving there kids the mmr if your gonna get measles then your gonna get them wether youve had the mmr or not,i dont understand why parents who dont let them have it are to blame

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 17:30

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I think that parents have a right to make an informed choice.......and there are many so called minor ailments that be life threatening in the appropriate circumstances.

I grew up before there was any vaccine for measles and there were lots of us who had the illness and survived.

AccyMad 30-08-2007 17:36

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I work in a local residential home for people who are deafblind & have severe learning difficulties. All five of our residents are as they are as a direct result of their mothers being in contact with rubella in the early stages of their pregnancy, it really opened my eyes when I started work there and while I don't want to be the harbinger of doom I really think that if parents can see what rubella can do they wouldn't hesitate to have their kids vaccinated.

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 17:38

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Rubella is different altogether....and girls should be vaccinated to prevent such incidences.

jackyalex 30-08-2007 17:44

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these things happen wether you have been vaccinated or not and they always will, you also take a risk by giving your child the vaccine,its swings and roundabout to who gets what in life,

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 17:49

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I am fortunate in that I am never going to need to make the decision about whether to have my child vaccinated, but if there was even a 1% chance that My child would be left autistic from being vaccinated then I would not do it.........measles may kill, but I guess I would take the chance of that.
Autism is for life. Personal choice!

katex 30-08-2007 18:34

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 465520)
I am fortunate in that I am never going to need to make the decision about whether to have my child vaccinated, but if there was even a 1% chance that My child would be left autistic from being vaccinated then I would not do it.........measles may kill, but I guess I would take the chance of that.
Autism is for life. Personal choice!

Your view really surprises me Margaret .Autism has not been scientifically proven to have been linked with the measles injection and yes, Autism is long term, but so is death from measles, and swellings of the brain and other long term effects from measles, far outweighing the vague suggestion that the injection causes this condition. Seemingly, there have been no deaths from measles since 1972. They are brought in from other countries, and poor countries are still suffering from bouts of measles and consequently long term and fatal effects.

You can all google the information yourself I am sure .. can't be bothered to put this in my post, but can't understand selfish mothers who do not allow their children to have this injection, for the sake of society as a whole.

Also, in your past profession, think you have to have proof of this injection or immunity before they let you loose on the hospital wards ... should think so too.

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 18:47

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Katex, It hasn't been disproved either.......There was one death recently from measles (last year I think)......while there may have been no scientific proof that this vaccine is causative of autism there is much anecdotal evidence from parents whose children became autistic after the vaccine.
And as I said, it is very much personal choice. As for my medical background, well it doesn't mean that I must agree with everything that is done...or would opt for some of the treatments that are given. Like anything else I make an informed choice.
You also grew up in the era where there was no vaccine, how many people do you know who were brain damaged/died as a result of having this illness? (just a question - you understand)

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 18:50

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Oh....I should say at this point that I am not against a single vaccination against measles.

katex 30-08-2007 19:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 465534)
You also grew up in the era where there was no vaccine, how many people do you know who were brain damaged/died as a result of having this illness? (just a question - you understand)

Personally, I don't know anyone, however, each time there was an outbreak all those years ago deaths/long term side effects were reported in the press .. 2 per 1,000 deaths.. that is high.

My daughter was born pre-MMR and her and her and her little close friends contracted measles (think she was around 3 years).... believe me I was very scared. She was very very poorly with high temperature streamy noses and swollen eyes .. I never kept my eyes off her the whole way through. That is why seventeen years on I had no compunction in allowing my son to accept this injection.

My daughter now, amongst her duties, is responsible for giving these injections to children and so far has experienced no autistic systems from any of her little patients.

Lilly 30-08-2007 19:40

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Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 465499)
if your gonna get measles then your gonna get them wether youve had the mmr or not,

No, if a child has had the MMR vaccine they will not get measles,mumps or rubella. This is why we vaccinate. If children contracted these illnesses regardless of whether or not they'd been vaccinated what would be the point of doing it?:confused:

Margaret Pilkington 30-08-2007 19:43

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Katex, if the government were serious about their concerns for children, they would make it easier for the parents to opt for the single vaccines....the fact that they don't, makes me feel that somewhere along the line there was some kind of financial deal with the drug companies (who have a lot of clout)...obviously i have no proof of this...it is just my cynical mind......parents have voted with their feet, and that should tell the HPA something.

How would you feel if your child was damaged after a vaccine was given? Isn't Autism a form of brain damage?
As I have said i feel grateful not to be in a position to have to make the choice.

I am certainly not advocating that parents take any notice of my views. I think all parents should research the subject, and only if they feel perfectly safe with the decision they should go ahead and let their child be vaccinated....if they have any doubts at all then I would suggest they find a clinic that will do the single vaccinantion (of course, they will have to pay for this).

I distrust a lot of the information that we are fed from government sources.
According to the government ther was no 'Gulf War' syndrome...yet previously healthy servicemen and women were damaged by the vaccinations that they were given prior to service in the gulf......OK, it may not be exactly the same...but very similar.


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