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Lampman 02-09-2007 09:13

I know let's scrap Asbos
 
The latest suggestion to combat Youth crime has been announced;amongst other themes one is to scrap Asbos.(OK)Another is to raise the criminal age of responsibility to 14 or possibly 18 years of age.
Am I missing something here?BBC NEWS | England | Criminal age 'should rise to 18'

hedman2003 02-09-2007 09:52

Re: I know let's scrap Asbos
 
see also the thread about naming of young criminals.

Theres no doubt for some of the drgs of our community these are simply a badge of honour. lets name and shame all these kids in the local press or on websites with their addresses and photographs.

The police are understaffed and have no powers, the courts pussyfoot around lets have zero tolerance and get this scum off our streets

Lampman 02-09-2007 11:24

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Yes a name and shame website would be good,though the PC brigade wouldnt allow it would they?

beechy 02-09-2007 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampman (Post 466562)
Yes a name and shame website would be good,though the PC brigade wouldnt allow it would they?

most areas have a pubwatch scheme
this doesnt work because landlords cant
display photos and names of wrongdoers
i know its slightly different
but the principals the same im all for it name and shame
but the reality is it wont get of the ground http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...cons/icon9.gif

Lampman 02-09-2007 13:33

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No we have to preserve human rights and right to anonominity after all.Unless you are a victim of course!

cashman 02-09-2007 14:01

Re: I know let's scrap Asbos
 
i'm all in favour of scrapping Asbos, i think they should increase the sentences,n do away with these soft options.:cool:

WillowTheWhisp 02-09-2007 15:05

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The way some kids think of ASBOs as a badge of honour I don't think they're really such a great thing.

jambutty 02-09-2007 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampman (Post 466562)
Yes a name and shame website would be good,though the PC brigade wouldnt allow it would they?

The answer is simple then.

Get rid of the PC brigade.

BERNADETTE 02-09-2007 15:14

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 466625)
The answer is simple then.

Get rid of the PC brigade.

Easier said than done, this country is full of do gooders. Just wondering if they would feel the same if one of their family was murdered, attacked, robbed or had any crime committed against them!! I think not, they would be shouting for punishments that fit the crime if it were to happen to any of their loved ones!!!:mad:

jambutty 02-09-2007 15:22

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With the current “Criminal Age Of Responsibility” set at 10 years, raising it to 18 or even 14 is just plain daft. But then since when did academics live in the real world? It makes you wonder how some people get into a university.

Once someone of any age has been found guilty of a crime they should be named and shamed unless an appeal has been launched. Then the naming and shaming should be held back until the outcome of the appeal.

I would add to that the parents of any convicted criminal under the age of 18 should also be named and shamed.

Lampman 02-09-2007 16:50

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Can't find anything wrong with that JB!

panther 02-09-2007 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 466630)

I would add to that the parents of any convicted criminal under the age of 18 should also be named and shamed.

I second to that!!
but they probably wont give a toss anyway:(:rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 02-09-2007 20:58

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What do they replace it with? At the end of the day it will be a badge of honour among his/her pals. Going after the parents dosnt help either as they might claim victimisation.


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