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yerself 25-09-2007 08:47

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Originally Posted by jambutty
. Many Jews managed to escape the Holocaust because they didn’t look sufficiently like Jews but a DNA test would have been conclusive

How can DNA determine what religion a person is?

jambutty 25-09-2007 09:16

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 474006)
How can DNA determine what religion a person is?

DNA cannot tell what religion a person favours. But it can determine race.

I didn’t watch Panorama last night having got hooked on Dispatches on Channel 4, which was on at the same time. It was a tale of how, over the years, MP’s set up Parliamentary rules that allowed them to get their snouts deeper in the trough. But that issue belongs in another thread not here.

However it is comforting that some people (the if you have nothing to hid you have nothing to fear people) are now rapidly changing their minds about a national DNA database for all.



Wynonie Harris 25-09-2007 09:25

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 474011)
I didn’t watch Panorama last night having got hooked on Dispatches on Channel 4, which was on at the same time. It was a tale of how, over the years, MP’s set up Parliamentary rules that allowed them to get their snouts deeper in the trough. But that issue belongs in another thread not here.

That sounds interesting, Jambutty. Are you going to tell us more (in another thread, of course)?

lancsdave 25-09-2007 09:35

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Originally Posted by Lampman (Post 474000)
There was also evidence of planting DNA to frame a suspect.


Hasn't planting evidence by bent coppers always been in place then ?

jambutty 25-09-2007 10:18

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 474013)
That sounds interesting, Jambutty. Are you going to tell us more (in another thread, of course)?

Recent memory not being my strong point I cannot give details but maybe the Channel 4 web site will have something.

However the programme is repeated at 3.45am on Thursday. They actually mean Friday early morning.

I’ll have a look after I come back from the dentists. Yes I do have an NHS dentist.

As in all walks of life lancsdave there are rogues but once upon a time the police were not subject to performance tables and thus there was no pressure to plant evidence, although I must have happened now and then.

Today is a different story. There is a greater incentive to bend the rules so that the success rate can be enhanced.

yerself 25-09-2007 10:35

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Originally Posted by jambutty
DNA cannot tell what religion a person favours. But it can determine race.

So Polish Jews, Russian Jews, American Jews, English Jews are all the same race? Using your rules I suppose all Roman Catholics are Italian then, or all Anglicans are English?

beechy 25-09-2007 11:27

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no i think dna can say if your russian english polish etc
but not the fact your jewish
the same as it can tell if your of italian extraction but not if your
roman catholic

SPUGGIE J 25-09-2007 11:50

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Originally Posted by beechy (Post 474034)
no i think dna can say if your russian english polish etc
but not the fact your jewish
the same as it can tell if your of italian extraction but not if your
roman catholic

There are certain genetic markers that are unique to certain races. It may not be exact but they could use it for ethnic typing in an investigation.

cashman 25-09-2007 12:28

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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]However it is comforting that some people (the if you have nothing to hid you have nothing to fear people) are now rapidly changing their minds about a national DNA database for all. ----------------------------------- its a case of experts in certain fields presenting credible evidence, then i am always happy to change stance, on here its more often opinions,which i digest n make my own mind up at that point.;)

alan7554 25-09-2007 13:22

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this is possibly a breach of human rights as not every one wants there dna to be taken,it also breaches the civil liberties act,why not do it when people give blood that is voluentery and it would kill 2 birds at once,

jambutty 25-09-2007 13:29

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Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 474066)
this is possibly a breach of human rights as not every one wants there dna to be taken,it also breaches the civil liberties act,why not do it when people give blood that is voluentery and it would kill 2 birds at once,

If people thought that their DNA would be registered in a National Database when they gave blood it could easily dry up the blood supply.

It wouldn’t surprise me to discover that this is already happening behind our backs.

garinda 25-09-2007 18:04

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...and perhaps hookers are really government sponsored agents, also surreptitiously gathering DNA.;)

yerself 25-09-2007 18:10

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Originally Posted by garinda
and perhaps hookers are really government sponsored agents, also surreptitiously gathering DNA.

No, in Jambutty's case it's his NHS dentist.


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