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Gayle 24-09-2007 10:34
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I just find it frustrating that you're knocking things before it's even finished and before the service there starts. All right, I agree, they're not very inspiring buildings and they don't impress or engage me as stunning pieces of architecture - they're big boxes! But the areas that they've been placed in aren't exactly renowned for their stunning architecture either - both Blackburn Rd and Paradise St are a bit scruffy to start off with. They are clean and simple buildings containing a medical service that this town needs.

And you're having a go at the service that they will provide before they've even started.

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 11:00
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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 473703)
the areas that they've been placed in aren't exactly renowned for their stunning architecture either - both Blackburn Rd and Paradise St are a bit scruffy to start off with.
:( Sorry Gayle but that is the most lame argument I have ever heard. Blackburn Rd is part of Project Phoenix so by your logic we should expect low standard regeneration there because what is being replaced was scruffy. Shouldn't we be aspiring to something better? What price any of the ideas put forward to improve the town centre if the planners merely look at what is there now and decide that it's grim so they had better put something equally grim alongside of or instead of it?

BERNADETTE 24-09-2007 11:24
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And If Paradise St is scruffy it can hardly be blamed on the residents as there are only two, perhaps HBC should get the cleaners round more often.

panther 24-09-2007 12:14
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speaking of all this does anyone know yet , who is moving into blackburn rd premises??
and im dreading peel house moving to paradise street, i think ill have to make a appointment to see my doctor now in case i need to see him next year!!:rolleyes:



oh i think theres nowt wrong with the building (blackburn rd), it just dont look right in the area cuz its a dump!!:Banane28:;)

BERNADETTE 24-09-2007 12:27
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And If Paradise St is scruffy it can hardly be blamed on the residents as there are only two, perhaps HBC should get the cleaners round more often.
A bit of a weak statement but you can't expect areas of outstanding beauty when you have non-stop traffic all the time. I was going to say that the new building was in keeping with the other new/newish buildings but on looking the one at the other end of Paradise Street is actually stone or stone effect. At the end of the day if the health centres do the job they were built for that is the best we can hope for.

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 15:11
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Why should it be the best we can hope for?

The thing is though if a brand new building is created with a bit of imagination and made to look attractive then it can be the start of an upward trend.

I was looking at the one on Paradise St today and apart from the fact that the area around it is a building site I wouldn't really class the street as scruffy. It's got a rear view of some properties but I've seen worse.

The new building sort of blends with Puddleside Park which again doesn't impress me all that much, especially considering the asking prices for those flats.

The wall round the skateboard park still needs repairing too.

BERNADETTE 24-09-2007 15:20
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Maybe the building that was there originally could have been adapted for use as a health centre. As I was going into town I can spot plenty of old buildings that are now being used as offices and even some that are now flats. The Globe Centre was a factory at one time as was the council offices. So with a bit of forward planning the old Broughtons factory could maybe have been saved.

Lilly 24-09-2007 15:55
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I realise these buildings aren't exactly stylish or classy but for goodness sake, at least they are being built. Accrington is getting two new, state of the art medical centres. Wouldn't you rather a medical centre spent it's money on medical equipment rather than ornate architecture?
Hear hear Gayle.:)

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 15:59
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It's not a case of spending more. Why does it have to cost more just to have something a little more inviting? Peel House is a doctor's surgery and that's quite a pleasant building, not in keeping with the rest of Avenue Parade I'll grant you but not as intimidating looking as the new health centres.

They'll probalby say it would have cost more to do up the old Broughton's building but I do agree it's a shame they can't use existing buildings instead of this 'flatten the lot' attitude.

Lilly 24-09-2007 16:02
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When you are in need of medical attention all that matters is that these health centres are clean, efficient, well staffed and able to provide a reliable service. It really isn't important how aesthetically pleasing it is.

MargaretR 24-09-2007 16:03
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Often it is cheaper to demolish and rebuild - especially when the building needs specialist medical areas - and where it is designed with hygiene in mind (hopefully)

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 16:06
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I wonder if they did a costing on it? I know what you mean about needing specialist areas and to be hygienic etc.

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 16:21
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Just seen what has been done in Bacup to create a health centre from an existing old mill and stay in keeping with the conservation area.

Bacup Health Centre

BERNADETTE 24-09-2007 16:41
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 473803)
Just seen what has been done in Bacup to create a health centre from an existing old mill and stay in keeping with the conservation area.

Bacup Health Centre
That looks just the job.

SPUGGIE J 24-09-2007 17:17
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I like the look of it. It is a great way to blend old and new. :D


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