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Acrylic-bob 26-09-2007 16:39

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I don't like this idea that we should be grateful for whatever meagre crumbs fall our way. There has been too much of that in the past, that is why Accrington looks the way that it does.

I don't expect the Guggenheim Centre or the Lloyds Building, but I do expect something a tad more adventurous than a pair of basic, bog standard, office blocks of the sort that has blighted the country for the past forty years.

Surely the whole point of regeneration is to raise the standard of an area, not drag it further down. I thought that the council were mad keen on encouraging tourist to the area? From what I have seen, thus far, that is an expectation that is destined to be thwarted.

And if they cannot get something a simple as a health centre right, what hope is there for the rest of the town?

These are landmark sites, they demand landmark buildings.

Tealeaf 27-09-2007 13:06

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I doubt if this is HBC'c fault; these are LIFT scheme buildings under the auspices of the Hyndburn and Ribble Valley PCT. I suppose that HBC could have knocked back the buildings on the basis they were not compatible with the immeadiate area or that the structures themselves lacked architectural merit. To have done so would have seriously disrupted both the budget and process of the PCT and would no doubt have led to serious criticism of the council by interests within the local health sector.

What is interesting is that nationally, these may be among the last of the LIFT schemes; like the major PFI hospital projects, managers within the NHS are finally doing their sums and realising the long term expense (involving unitary payments over 25 years or so) of these developments; indeed, at the primary level the latest thinking appears to be that we need to get fat-cat GPs out of their expensive 9 to 5 surgeries and back into the communities where they belong. One line of thought is to get 'em set up in the supermarkets, so that when you're buying your fat burger, salt-laden pizza and under sized microwaveable lamb shank in ASDA on a sunday afternoon, you can see your local Doc and get the blood pressure checked at check-out.

SPUGGIE J 27-09-2007 13:11

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 474692)
One line of thought is to get 'em set up in the supermarkets, so that when you're buying your fat burger, salt-laden pizza and under sized microwaveable lamb shank in ASDA on a sunday afternoon, you can see your local Doc and get the blood pressure checked at check-out.

There was something on the goggle box recently were they put 3 GP's out on the streets in Manchester and had them roaming. Had to laugh when they were shown carrying a sign that they were doctors and a nice bright red bag. :D

WillowTheWhisp 27-09-2007 13:42

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Being able to actually book an appointment would be a big improvement.

Acrylic-bob 28-09-2007 16:31

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 474692)

What is interesting is that nationally, these may be among the last of the LIFT schemes;


Oh, I see, last in the queue, again, what a surprise - NOT!

Gayle 28-09-2007 16:35

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I've been around Accy today so thought I'd take a better look. One thing that struck me was that they were both red brick - surely in Accrington that's perfect as it's well known for red brick!

BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 16:44

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There are two NHS buildings on Paradise Street, one is stone/stone effect and the other is red brick. The stone one blends in with the other buildings in the area and the red brick stands out like a sore thumb IMHO.

katex 28-09-2007 18:39

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 475088)
I've been around Accy today so thought I'd take a better look. One thing that struck me was that they were both red brick - surely in Accrington that's perfect as it's well known for red brick!

Yes, of course Gayle .. and as, in my earlier post, a shame that reduncies are being made at the factory due to stockpiling and building work down, blah, blah, blah; so was good they used them (only presuming like .. could have been imported). As a gal with an artistic flair, you must admit that if could have been more welcoming though, irrespective of the services it may be hoping to offer.

Gayle 28-09-2007 18:48

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They are placing pieces of art outside and inside of them.

WillowTheWhisp 28-09-2007 19:08

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I went along Paradise Street today and really the only scruffy thing on there is the back of the old Con.

Oddly enough although Accrington is famous for bricks, most of the town's buildings are faced in stone.

katex 28-09-2007 19:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 475153)


Oddly enough although Accrington is famous for bricks, most of the town's buildings are faced in stone.

Perhaps just as well, Willow, as could have finished up looking like Legoland .. :eek:

BERNADETTE 28-09-2007 19:21

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I really don't think a few pieces of art are going to hide the fact that we now have a big red brick building in an area where the architecture is predominantly built from stone. Perehaps a bit more thought could have gone in before building work commenced. Now we just have to hope that the GP's move into them and they fulfill the purpose they were built for.

katex 28-09-2007 19:44

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 475161)
I really don't think a few pieces of art are going to hide the fact that we now have a big red brick building in an area where the architecture is predominantly built from stone. Perehaps a bit more thought could have gone in before building work commenced. Now we just have to hope that the GP's move into them and they fulfill the purpose they were built for.

And here endeth the ? lesson.

Ianto.W. 29-09-2007 05:19

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Originally Posted by Lampman (Post 473472)
I think the Paradise Street one should have retained the former buildings stonework then it would have blended in with the other buildings.
How long before they clear the surrounding streets some boarded up houses already.

To my knowledge, there are no boarded up buildings on Paradise Street, there may be some on Wellington and Cotton St, but these should soon be re-ocupied. When the Health Centers open, as the created job's that require accomodation will take them. Thus enancing the area's reputation away from some derogatory remarks, 'scruffy':p

Ianto.W. 30-09-2007 21:32

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 475139)
They are placing pieces of art outside and inside of them.

Who's selecting the art not Midd-Pennine Ass for the Arts I hope:eek:


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