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On Sunday evening myself and a friend decided to go for a few pints in the Hare and Hounds in Clayton le moors, we are both smokers so went outside to sit under the shelter. We had not been there that long when a red Van pulled up on the car park out of which appeared two young children dressed up in Halloween Gear.
They crossed the car park and headed towards the Shelter to were they began to ask people for money. Then as bold as brass they went into the pub. After about 10mins they reappeared out back with buckets full of £1.00 coins and started asking the people outside for money again. The youngest of them came over to me asking for money, to which I told him to ****** off and come back in 3 weeks time.
They then crossed the car park back to the red van, were a woman was standing with a bag into which they empted there buckets.
About 30mins later we headed up to the Greyhound and again sat out side, Guess what appeared on the car park? A red van. Same two children again begging for money. Again they walked straight into the pub and came out with bucket full of money. This was approx 9:30pm.
What do you think?

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100 percent for effort and ingenuity and if people are stupid enough to put money in their bucket then good luck to them,perhaps they were ****** but what a good money making scam,especially for the woman in the van,but i always thought it was illegal to collect money in a pub unless you were a registered charity or had a badge to show i.d and age of person collecting money and the landlord/ manager should have shown them the door b4 they started the collection.

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Hopefully as the Observer pick up information from this website they might actually make people aware of the scam in this weeks paper.

As an aside I can't beleive people are daft enough to part with money for trick or treat on the 7th October, anybody who comes to my door or asks me in town before October 31st will be impolitely told where to go.

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Oh ******, I have just put on my costume :Banane18: and was heading your way. Ginger has gone to Belgium today, and I need money to go out!!

So no chance of a bit of trick or treat money from your house dave?? :D:D

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You need a costume ??? :rofl38:

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I don't remember saying what the costume was ;):D

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this "scam" was tried out a couple of years ago in the stag needless to say the kids (who were quite "cheeky" ) didn't get away with a lot of money ....accywebbers meet on at the time ......we were too shrewed for um, we did have a tin of sweeties with us ...but they refused them & only wanted money.

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I don't like Halloween. Trick or treating is just begging for money. I was never allowed to do it and I won't let my kids do it. Every year I just wish Halloween would go away.:(

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hey what a bloody good idea!!
i know where im taking my kids trick or treating;)












only joking!!!....if the punters are daft enough to do it then thats thier problem

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Here, here Lilly .. pain in the rear. Think Ok with organised private events, but knocking on people's doors to threaten them with a trick or pay up is not my idea of fun either.

Having said that, have always wanted to hold a party at home with scary decorations, cobwebs, green/red light bulbs, fancy dress, appropriately named drinks, etc., could be fun.

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There are some cheeky sods about, I'm afraid they wouldn't have got anything off me!!!

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dont think its cheek to them bernie,its a Business, usually operated by our "travelling friends";)

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I live on a very small Island in Thailand and have only popped back home to renew my visa and spend a bit of time with my family.
The island I live on (Koh Phangan) is a very poor island and a lot of the children there have nothing at all, No P.C’s , No playstations, No fancy Trainers on their feet, in fact a lot of them do not have any shoes.
I have been there now for nearly two years and not once has anybody asked (Begged) for anything of me.

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You spot on cashman, good on yer Lancashire Lad for telling them where to push it... :D

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Well they should be ashamed of theirselves but then again they have no shame!!;)

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This has happened in every pub i've ever worked in. Unless its 30th, 31st Oct or 1st Nov then they get told to sod off out of the pub. The customers dont like it and its nearly always a scam. When they come to our house they get sweets.

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Thats pure cheek. I buy a bag of toffees mixed and empty them into a bowl and when they come knocking on halloween they are allowed to have 2 toffees each. Only if they are at Primary school - at high school tough luck - theyre too old! Also if they come round before then they get nowt and told to come back at halloween. The only time teenagers get the toffees is when they have come round with the kids - and theyre looking after them. Best was last year - i had gone out and left the bowl of toffees on the doorstep with a sign saying only take 2 - when i came back there were still some left in it!!!

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Posted last year on the same subject; I don't mind trick or treat, the kids near me always get sweets not money from me and my daughter enjoyed it; maybe she will be too grown up this year ?:confused:

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best way , hand out kiddie size toothbrushes , you can get 24 packs at places like costco /price club for a good price , it discourages the kids for the next year , but not one or two cheap parents ;) ;)

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Na old mouldy cheese will go down better if wrapped in cling film. :D

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I think you are missing the point. Halloween falls on 31st Oct.
It was Sunday the 7th when they came collecting and all the money was given to a adult, who then took them to another pub.

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All part of your thread Lancashire Lad .. covered the fact that they were being monitored by an adult, and obviously a scam. Are you saying, therefore, that if it had been the 31st, you may have looked on them a little more kindly ... :confused:

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Katex.
Be it on any day of the year Children should not be allowed to go begging in any pub.

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Now that's what we call Scary Spice: Posh's Hallowe'en look | the Daily Mail

Now that is scary - the first pic not the rest the rest are just making her look stupid. Changing from posh to scary. ....

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Like i said if they come round before halloween night they dont get nowt - get told to come back on halloween. The rule at my house is primary school kids only - teenagers nowt and no money either its sweets - but wrapped sweets only because any unwrapped sweets could be 'doctored' and i dont want to be accused of anything.

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By the way a question for you all - how many went out 'penny for the guy'?

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Ok .. agree on that one .. not only the pub, knocking at doors too, even on October 31st .. wouldn't even give 'em sweets either .. could get done with Health and Safety for encouraging obesity !

Shill ... Posh definitely losing the plot .. yuk. Do quite like her though .. she is colourful and you have got to admire that about a gal... :D

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Vic Beckham would scare any normal person.

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Probablly a costume ... but not a mask.:Banane20:

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This thread appears in tonight's Observer :D:D twas quite funny to read!!

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It is this bit that has been QUOTED!!

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Seems they use quite a lot of stuff off here. We should be getting their wages:)

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should be paying royalties at least.

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I like the kids comming for trick or treat,,I have just bought an enormous tub/bucket of sweets from Tesco,s.. That will keep them going ....

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Nah, it's some anonymous 'local forum' they use. ;)

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Yep this one:rolleyes:

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http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk..._the_trick.php

My poster has gone on display.
It was on the back page of the community policing mag that was pushed through the door a few days ago

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i want one of them posters, i know im not old but where can i get hold of one???? i can say is for my nana wich she probly want one as well

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Two children?....a red van?...it was probably Aleks and Blazey raising funds for the Strawberry Peoples' Liberation Front!

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Nice one:p

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This is a Quote from the link
The posters, showing a witch on a broom stick underneath the words 'No Trick or Treats', can be picked up from libraries, council offices, surgeries and schools and then placed in windows or near front doors

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My granddaughter and her friend are going trick or treating tomorrow, with my daughter as chaperone. They are only going up and down our street, dressed as witches, and will not accept money, only "treats".

My treat is going to be a bowl of hot pumpkin soup when they get back (had to do something with all that pumpkin flesh that's been hollowed out, there's more than enough for a pie too). I've never made it before so fingers crossed it is a treat. :D

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Oh heck. :(

I've had pumpkin soup before and I liked it, just never made it myself. I've never heard of pumpkin cake but, I've got to say it, it doesn't sound very nice. I love pumpkin pie but it's got to be the right recipe or it can be very bland. I put cinnamon and nutmeg in mine and it's lovely.

I'll let you know the verdict on the soup. ;)

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Not if it done right ... pumpkin pie and whipped cream, mmmm. Pumpkin needs the addition of pumpkin spice if it is to taste right. Pumpkin pie rules, the only thing better is Saskatoon Pie!:Banane25:

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This happens a lot with certain people:D:D:D

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The pumpkin soup was a success and I made a pumpkin pie too. As I had made a lot of pastry I also made a gooseberry pie (loads in the freezer - I grow them). We are all F T B (full to bustin'). :p The pumpkin lantern is sitting on the bench in the front garden with 3 tea-lights inside it.

I had 7 different lots of trick-or-treaters, all accompanied by grown-ups, so I had to be scared stiff 7 times. The funniest visit was a tiny witch accompanied by 2 girls of about 12. They nudged her and said, "Say trick or treat", so she did then I asked her how old she was. She turned to her big sister and said, "How old are I?" Turns out she was "nearly free". :D

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You buy a few gooseberry bushes from the Garden Centre, in Spring, plant them and they'll do the rest. I've only got 4 bushes, and they are in a quite shady area, but I get pounds of fruit every year. I prune them a little bit after I've picked the berries but otherwise I leave them to get on with it. One thing to beware of, they have very strong thorns so you have to be careful when you're picking.

Try growing them next year. There's nothing as good as home grown. :)

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We've had about 7 rings on our doorbell but I stayed true to form and ignored them. I drew the curtains at 4.30pm and put the television on. I haven't been to the door all night.

I was branded a miserable old beggar at work when I admitted that I do this and my kids said the same when I refused to let them go trick or treating.

I'm quite happy for others to get on with it, as long as they don't try to include me. I just don't like Halloween and am glad when it's done with for another year.

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I think that's a shame, when little children have dressed up and are excited about going out in the dark. Of course I don't know what goes on in Accy these days but here the kids who come round are well behaved and have grown-ups with them and it's all just fun. I enjoy opening the door to groups of little ghouls, devils and witches and putting lollipops into their little bags. I suppose it's different if you're getting teenagers and kids who are after money but we haven't had any of that.

Some of my neighbours dress up for the occasion. One lady down the road made all the groups of kids jump when she answered her door, in the dark, wearing a witch's outfit and a luminous green mask. She's over 70, too. :D

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We had loads of little kids come with their older siblings or parents,,,,...we had a lovely time,,,,,one little lad was the cutest pumpkin ever.....:)

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Not had many callers tonight. Mick answered the door. Not catch me answering the door.

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Well i must admit i dont normally bother with them but tonight we had 2 knocks on the door the first was 2 girls about 10 and 8 and had there mum they were dressed up well and very polite with "trick or treat please" and after letting them dip into a tin of chocs a very nice thankyou the youngest girl said to her mum on leaving "we must go there again next year":)

The next was a boy about 8 it was a bit late but i was more bothered about my broadband had gone down so was trying to sort that so i went to the door and this lad in a mask was there with his sister very nice and polite again so was happy to give them some sweets.

We had had some kids earlier in the month about the 9th calling i told them to call back when its halloween all he said i will put your windows through they never came back.

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Ding dong.

Trick or treat?

What they should have said is...

'You don't know me, or my child, who I've stuck a witch's hat on, but we're begging door to door, for food or money, and there is the threat of a trick, if you don't comply'.

:D

I do think it's odd.

Especially when you don't know the people doing it.

Probably because it hadn't crossed the Atlantic in the seventies, when I was a child.

I do remember seeing Trick or Treating mentioned in a Snoopy cartoon, and thinking it a daft thing, even as a seven year old.

I hope they accepted my 'Sorry darling, I haven't any sweets', and my gate isn't hanging off it's hinges.

:rolleyes:

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Best way is when they ask "Trick or Treat", reply "Trick", and throw a bucket of water over them. Is that correct ? :D

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Paedophiles must love this time of year.

People sending their kids out, on the dark nights prior to Halloween, knocking on strangers' doors.

Home delivery.

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

I couldn't do that to this one.

She was sweet, and only about three.

Though if I could have thrown it over her head, and got the mother, skulking in the shadows...

:rolleyes:

I haven't actually had many this year. (So far.)

I do think it's unsafe though. When it's unaccompanied children knocking on strangers' doors.

When did this 'custom' start in the U.K.?

It definitely wasn't widespread in the seventies.

We just made lanterns out of turnips, or jam jars, and watched the girls from the riding school go down the lane on their horses dressed as witches.

If you were really lucky you might get taken up Pendle.

But our Dad always said there'd be too much traffic, and nowhere to park. So we went the following Sunday, in very un-eerie broad daylight.

:D

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Ok ... that clears up something I was going to ask about when this thread first came up. For the life of me I couldn't remember anything special about Halloween, when I was a kid over there; except that the day after was All Saints' Day, and, as all Old Saintonians remember, we got a half-day holiday. Over here it's a great time for the kiddies ... and later in the nite, a good excuse for the adults to dress up and get wasted.:mosher:

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Spoke too soon.

Just had two more lots, rat-a-tat-tatting.

Where's my bucket?

:D

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They've never bothered me since I went to the door the other year and frightened um to death:dflam:

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You'd love it now.

It's like living in Boise, Idaho.

Yes siree!

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Just give them my address ... I got lots of treats:D

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Just taken the treats out of the oven for the next callers, and put them on a tray to cool.

There's spooky bat biscuits, flavoured with laxative powder.

Also ghoulish ghost cookies, spiced with Rohypnol.

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:D

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Rohypnol:eek:they won't be able to remember eating the cookies;)

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Hopefully they'll give them to their parents, who'll forget to send 'em begging here next year.

Five lots now.

Hopefully be finishing soon.

No longer answering the door now.

Fingers crossed all the tubs haven't been rolled into the brook.

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On a serious note, on the whole children are so mollycoddled nowadays, driven everywhere, wiped with anti-bacterial wipes, unable to eat jams purchased in church halls because of elf & safe-t issues.

Except for tonight, when the're sent off into the darkness, to meet all kinds of strangers, and given God knows what as a 'treat'.

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Ya and it won't be long before kids are being encourage to sit on the knee of this old bloke with a white beard that carries a sack round with him:rolleyes:

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Seen this ?

Times have changed from the small gathering of local people and horse riders :

BBC News - Halloween restrictions for visitors to Pendle Hill

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Well you wouldn't catch me taking my children out on Hallowe'en. I don't condone begging.

Fortunately, no one knows that there are any houses down here so we rarely ever get trick or treaters. I'm not so hard hearted that I send them away, but I only give them one sweet each.

And if you're worrying that I'm a killjoy and my children are missing out - they aren't!!! Maddie went to two parties over the weekend and Zack went to one, so they're both in the 'spirit' but in the safety of organised parties.

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Yanks spread their bs all over the world ... maybe it's so that they feel right at home when they invade somebody:rolleyes:

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Am over at my aunts in Cleveleys - the only thing she had in was an open tin of Roses chocs from several Xmases ago - very generously distributed by me to all the teenage trick or treaters...hope they don't have to miss school tomorrow with tummy ache:eek::Banane18:

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For the past few years the council have blocked off all the places you could put a burger van or park a car with blockades.

I wonder how much they spend making sure people who want to celibrate a tradition cant have any fun :rolleyes:

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Not ones knocked at our door tonight..................perhaps they don't like electric shocks.:D

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That's what it is.

Or would be at any other time of year.

Trick or treat.

Demands with threat.

Fine, if it's you're all close neighbours, with a few families who've pre-arranged to visit each other's homes.

I don't particularly want disturbing. Unless it's by someone who knows me, and who knows I'll make them welcome.

I don't want phone calls from India telling me their records show I'm eligble to claim for medical injuries I incurred whilst working in the building industry...or it might be down a mine, as happened today.

I don't want knocks at the door, from God botherers who've found the way to my salvation, or even to tell me that Jesus wants me as his very own sunbeam.

I don't wan't double glazing, a conservatory, to give to a charity that pays a sales team on commission, or to have my tiles checked, nor am I thinking of selling my home.

It's a nuisance for me. Getting up, shuffling to the door, faffing with locks and keys, saying 'Sorry, no thanks'.

I feel really sorry for some of my elderly neighbours, who live alone, and who do have mobility problems. They must get really tired and fed up. God forbid they do fall, trying to answer the door.

Leave us be!

Take your twenty year old 'custom', and your pumpkin shaped plastic begging bowl, and post it back to America. Where it belongs, and where they are welcome to it.

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I take it thats a NO then Rindy?:D;)

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You've got to feel sorry for innocent doggers, at this time of year.

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It's a grouchy, grumbly, middle aged no.

:D

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I dont feel sorry fer yeh.:D:D

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Them.

I don't have a car, I traded it in for a bird table.

I'm a twitcher.


:D

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This description made me laugh.

Since the 80s usage of the phrase has become more widespread, but is still often viewed as an exotic and unwelcome commercialised import, with the BBC referring to it as "the Japanese knotweed of festivals" and ''making demands with menaces''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick-or-treating

:p

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Before I abandoned religion
(decided it was an uneccessary encumbrance to spiritual development),
I did explore the concepts held in various religions.
One of them was Paganism. Haloween is the festival of Samhain

Halloween: The Pagan Festival of Samhain

The practice of dressing up as witches and ghouls is offensive to pagans.

The people who adhere to any religion require it be shown respect.

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Can remember a bunch of us from the local youth club doing the pendle treak back in the 60s, I ended up carrying one of the young lasses on my back from Downham to Whalley, she wanted us to leave her in a bus shelter so she could have a sleep, but that was a non starter and yours truly volunteered for the job, good job she was only very lightweight:rolleyes:

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ya its called her majesties revenue and customs here:D

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Although most of the world's religions give very little respect to other faiths. Or to those who believe religions were created by every human civilisation, as a primitive comforter. Because it couldn't be accepted, that like all other life forms on Earth, we live, and then we die.

Rather than giving respect to others, most religions want to either convert, kill, or save you, or condemn you to their particular version of hell.

Faith's a nice crutch, for those who need help on life's journey.

Personally I threw mine away years ago.

It was quite miraculous.

Praise be!

:rolleyes:

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The problem is they require respect for their "religion" but don't extend respect to other people and often prey on them in moments of weakness..

(Great post by Garinda above -mirrors my own experience and thoughts entirely!)

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To me religion is a personal thing, any religion that has to use any kind of force to persuade people that their religion is right and others are wrong has lost the battle completely, if there is a god, who is all loving and giving would not condone violence used in there name and rather than going to paradise would be more likely burn in the flames of hell

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Each religion is always keen to share their own beliefs with everyone else, and are happy to preach to others. Seeing it as a divine right.

Though you must never respond, or question their particular religion's beliefs.

That's sacrosanct.

These individual religions, that humankind created to provide meaning to life, are a little like football teams.

Their team is unquestionably the best, and will be supported, regardless of their performance, and all the opposing teams are labelled as rubbish.

:rolleyes: