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I have found this in the Telegraph
Urban Craze Danger Warning (from Lancashire Telegraph)
This might explain why the Con Club has been broken into.
The playing field changing hut near me is being accessed by teenagers who have broken in through the roof. If they are drinking and smoking in there they risk being trapped in it if a fire breaks out. The hut is due to be demolished but its demise is delayed because it awaits ASBESTOS testing.

If you have teens warn them about the stupid way they are risking death

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Urban Exploration involves taking photo's of urban building.

There is a guy on here who is into it.

He posted some photos of accy con club up.

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Can i just add these people don't just look up derelict sites it is busy industrial sites such as william blyth's etc. Most of these people are not teenagers they are men and women who have full peices of PPE on them i have read the forum on numerous occasions and they recomend you take a mask with you to cover your mouth from abesto etc. They carry camera's worth more than the average on me and you would use. They arnt thick they use floresent jackets to get around with hardly being asked. It is actually amasing how the NHS left all the electric on with the Xray machine still connected up.How peoples health records where left there.Infact if you search accrington there is a brilliant peice on black abbey st path.

If anyone is intrested in learning more here is there website

UK Urban Exploration Forums

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Accy Con seems to be pretty secure now, having said that I don't particularly go looking for ways to get in. Have to agree with some of the comments if your child didn't know about it they have a good chance of hearing about it now. Glad my kids are grown up, no need to worry about them getting hurt in what could be dangerous buildings.

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The telegraph have not got a clue about "Urban Exploration" I frequently visit the forum "28DL" as it contains some great photography and a insite into what is around that isnt really seen.

I posted some time ago about this.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ing-32485.html

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Well said Mr D i also think it is a awesome site

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Adults committing criminal acts which you appear to applaud :confused:
In the Law.com dictionary breaking and entering is defined-

breaking and entering
n. 1) the criminal act of entering a residence or other enclosed property through the slightest amount of force (even pushing open a door), without authorization. If there is intent to commit a crime, this is burglary. If there is no such intent, the breaking and entering alone is probably at least illegal trespass, which is a misdemeanor crime.

trespass
n. entering another person's property without permission of the owner or his/her agent and without lawful authority (like that given to a health inspector) and causing any damage, no matter how slight. Any interference with the owner's (or a legal tenant's) use of the property is a sufficient showing of damage and is a civil wrong (tort) sufficient to form the basis for a lawsuit against the trespasser by the owner or a tenant using the property. Trespass includes erecting a fence on another's property or a roof which overhangs a neighbor's property, swinging the boom of a crane with loads of building materials over another's property, or dumping debris on another's real estate. In addition to damages, a court may grant an injunction prohibiting any further continuing, repeated or permanent trespass. Trespass for an illegal purpose is a crime

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They understand they are breaking a law at the end of the day they do it so you dont have to ;).

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So they are a bunch of immature adults playing at a reality version of Tombraider :rolleyes:

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Trespass is not a criminal offence.

Who says they break and enter?

Have you actuallly had a look at the site?

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yes I read it
breaking and entering
n. 1) the criminal act of entering a residence or other enclosed property through the slightest amount of force (even pushing open a door), without authorization

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Thats B&E Not Trespass.

Trespass is a Civil Matter.

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Now this guy is just stupid

Nottinghams Tallest Tower Crane - 10/08/07 - REPORT - UK Urban Exploration Forums

This is what he says:

Yes you idiot their is good reason for the 18' wall, it is to stop idiots like you from falling off and dying. The stupid thing is the construction company whould have been blamed if he fell off that crane.

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Yes I agree that is dangeress climbing the crains. But UE is not just about that.

My point is this is not a new teen craze how the press describe it, as usuall with the press they jump on a story with no real information. They steal photos without permission and then PAY the Explorers for them once they are found and billed.

I mean have you heard of teens going to China, Chernoybl or Paris to do what they enjoy?

Examples.
Pripyat, Chernobyl, UKRAINE Report 17/12/06 - UK Urban Exploration Forums

Beijing Underground City, China 10/08/07 REPORT - UK Urban Exploration Forums

The Paris Catacombs - Trip Report and History ARCHIVED - UK Urban Exploration Forums

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Ive just had a look at the photos on 28DL and they look really kewl. They broke into Blackburn hospital dint they... i think it is good what they are doing but wont do it my self. some really interesting pics that should not be left hidden!

I do hope they are as safe as possible tho!!

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Why do you think "it is good what they are doing"?
What purpose does it serve?(other than their own cheap thrill by endangering themselves)
Once entry has been made it provides an easier access for persons who want to rob a building of its architectural features for profit.

Ps I dont think your grandad Frank would let you do it ;)

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I'm all for preserving these memories, but not in a 'cowboy' fashion. Organised parties follwing health and safety checks is plain common sense, lone rangers and small unauthorised posse's are illegal and downright dangerous!

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Me and a few mates used to go exploring in the old cinema on broadway before it's demolition, it was enormous!

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When an owner of a building calls in a demolition contractor the cost will depend on the amount of salvageable items that contractor sees as saleable.
You only need to google 'architectural salvage' to find out what big business this is and that the minimum amount will end up crushed and not reusable/resalable.
The building no matter how delelict, belongs to somebody and whatever its worth might be -it should not be entered by persons out of curiosity, because a way in will then be available to salvage thieves.

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Just digressing a little willow, when they had the rooftop riots at Strangeways Prison, a local accy based 'roof bandit' had 3 skips in the street to catch the slates, thirty bob each.:D

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Now that's called enterprise. ;)

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My guess is that the vast majority of that beautiful church was sold of to the good old US of A.

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I don't have any time for salvage companies, they could put an orcestra to shame with the amount of fiddles they have going...

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True urban explorers don't 'break in', take nothing, damage nothing, leave nothing.
This is one i go on
Broken Britain - Urban Exploration Forum - :: Index
It isn't necessary to gain unauthorised entry to explore. It's more fun if you aren't chaperoned about and can explore freely and take pics freely but isn't necessary.
It's not illegal, it's a civil matter. Unless damage is done the police don't want to get involved.
Urbex takes photos of building that will or have been demolished, some of which won't be recorded by proper historians. Luckily the ones here that I refer to will be. We are lucky in that we probably have more listed buildings here than any other town of it's size and what we have lost is carefully recorded. Some towns aren't as lucky.

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Sorry to go gravedigging and drag up an oldish thread.

Let's kill some popular misconceptions, no doubt provoked by an hysterical local media looking for a story, and a badly researched one at that.

Urban Exploration is NOT, repeat NOT about breaking into buildings. As has been pointed out, that's a criminal offence, as is going equipped to break and enter, i.e. if you were found trespassing by a police officer, and you had equipment that he suspected you used to enter (even if you just walked through the door), he would have reasonable grounds for arrest. A policeman can ask you to leave and possibly arrest you, but couldn't charge you.

Trespass is a civil offence, except on certain properties where it becomes a criminal offence - e.g. government, military, nuclear installations and also the railway.

Don't always presume sites are entered without permission. I went into Accy Conny Club - I went though a window (although later I realised the fire exits were open). Would I have got permission? I doubt it. I recently went round the abandoned Chatterley Whitfield Colliery on a rare open day, surrounded by stewards and miles of Herras fencing. I also went to see the mill engine at Grane Mill, Haslingden which isn't open to the public, as I asked the owner.

Yes, some of the places I go I shouldn't be. Are the owners likely to give a damn? In most instances, no, or they'd secure the sites and / or put security on. Do I know what I'm doing? More so than the scally's who try to set fire to these places, or break in to drink and do drugs, and light fires. Does this make it right or am I defending the indefensible? You decide.

Why do I do it? Primarily because I'm interested in history, architecture and photography. Sure, I take a risk, going into derelict buildings with costly photographic equipment, but I take steps to minimise risk. I'm not completely daft.

Oh, one final thought before you cast judgement, if I hadn't have gone into Accy Conny Club, the Observer wouldn't have seen my pictures, and it'd still be frequented by the scally's.

Over to you....

:)

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I've got 2 questions:

1) Where is Accy Con Club?
2) If this hobby done legit then I see no problem, but why would anyone condone someone wandering onto someones property for the sake of taking photographs, regardless of it being due for demolition or not?

If you ask permission and you get it, then thats great. But if you dont, and you go onto land that isn't yours, then you should be seen to be committing an unlawful act regardless of how innocent the intention may be.

Reasonings like wanting to take photographs of the interior might seem innocent and reasonable enough, but if you allowed for reasonings like that then people would take advantage. As an example, and this is my viewpoint, if its innocent to go on someones property without permission and take photographs, then it'd be equally fair for a homeless person to enter your property for the sake of being warm, which would be an absurd ruling in the courts. Trespass in no situation should ever be condoned, nor should it ever be expected to be condoned in the court in my opnion. As far as I was aware, trespass is associated with both criminal and civil procedures.

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As willowthwhisp pointed out, people do go into buildings to keep warm, it's squating. I don't know the legal standpoint on that, I own my own warm house, fully locked and alarmed.:)

Trespass is a criminal offence on certain properties, not all, as I outlined above. If you force access (something I've never done), then it becomes breaking and entering, which is a criminal offence. That's a fact, try and prove me wrong if you wish. I wouldn't even contemplate breaking into somewhere, but there again I don't need to, there are just so many abandoned buildings with smashed doors, windows and fences.

I appreciate your viewpoint, the ethics of Urban Exploration differ between those who do it and those who don't.

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Well they have boarded the access up but not much being done about the window in the ballroom which has been missing for nearly twelve months. Is it being left like that so the building will be beyond saving?

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That has been suggested on another thread here, yes..............

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you can squat in unoccupied property, but not in occupied property as far as i know.

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Willow i suggest you take a look at 28days later.
They go onto unoccupied and occupied properties e.g William Blythes.

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There is something he also said :)

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From the people I know who go and climb tower cranes and do what is known as 'infiltration', e.g. finding a way into the Coronation Street set, or the Big Brother set, it's more a case of evading security, than breaking into things. Not something I'm into myself mind, but I'm not into it for the adrenaline.

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