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WillowTheWhisp 10-12-2007 12:07

Buses do a U-turn?
 
Looks like Lancashire United are having a rethink about banning some baby buggies from their buses. :)

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flashy 10-12-2007 12:45

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i really shouldnt add comments to news paper articles :D

BERNADETTE 10-12-2007 14:09

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 502365)
i really shouldnt add comments to news paper articles :D

Well said karma sent:)

blazey 10-12-2007 14:12

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Fair play to the reader who commented that they should be folded down though. The space could've been filed up already and she wouldnt have been able to get on without folding it down or waiting for the next one. Or she could've got a taxi if she was that concerned about the cold and her baby.

The policy is unfair in the sense that a 3 wheeled pram is not unstable compared to a four wheeled pram, thats like saying reliant robins are unsuitable for the road and you still see the odd one of them out and about doing fine with the 4 wheeled cars!

I think they were just trying to find excuses for not letting as many prams on the bus, and to be honest, you see so many mothers putting their prams into the buggy bit the wrong way that no wonder the bus drivers are concerned. If they crash and the buggy isnt in the right way, or they havent crash tested with a 3 wheeled buggy to make sure the baby will be ok then who's going to be to blame. I'd be shocked if anyone pointed at the mother.

flashy 10-12-2007 14:36

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Blazey, they only allow 2 prams on anyway

flashy 10-12-2007 14:37

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thanx for the karma Bernie :D

emamum 10-12-2007 14:38

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the problem that i had was that the drivers wre letting too many buggies on and you had to turn them the other way.. how would a mother with a tiny baby fold down her pram? the baby cant go on the floor and it is impossible to fold it dow, carry it on the bus, put it in the shopping bag area and keep hols of your baby and hold another childs hand.. the buses are designed for buggies to get onto, there are spaces for buggies that ppl are not supposed to sit in, so they are not taking the seat of a paying customer!

blazey 10-12-2007 14:45

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The main point is that before buggy bays where designed, mothers coped perfectly well, they didn't just stay in their houses.

2 buggies shouldn't even be allowed on the bus, it should only be one, just as only one wheelchair bound passenger is allowed on the bus.

As said, the space wasn't created to make it more convenient for mothers, it was designed so that disabled people could have better access to the bus anyway, buggy users dont even have priority.

emamum 10-12-2007 15:05

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the prams that the mothers had before had carry cots on them, which you can put on the floor.. my mum had a big silver cross pram when i was little and she had to walk everywhere because they didnt fold down... the burnley&pendle buses take 3 buggies.. it says prams and wheelchairs, niot just wheel chairs... have you ever tried to get on a bus with a pram and had to fold it down? i would rather walk!

blazey 10-12-2007 15:08

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 502404)
the prams that the mothers had before had carry cots on them, which you can put on the floor.. my mum had a big silver cross pram when i was little and she had to walk everywhere because they didnt fold down... the burnley&pendle buses take 3 buggies.. it says prams and wheelchairs, niot just wheel chairs... have you ever tried to get on a bus with a pram and had to fold it down? i would rather walk!

Yeh actually, I fold it down every time I get on the bus and the train. I took my brother and sister to blackpool on the train and managed to hold both their hands and carry the pram off a busy train to blackpool, and if little me can do it, someone who has no experience with motherhood or caring for children, i think anyone can, though maybe i'm just a superhero!

emamum 10-12-2007 15:36

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 502405)
Yeh actually, I fold it down every time I get on the bus and the train. I took my brother and sister to blackpool on the train and managed to hold both their hands and carry the pram off a busy train to blackpool, and if little me can do it, someone who has no experience with motherhood or caring for children, i think anyone can, though maybe i'm just a superhero!

how many hands do you have? you managed all this with out once letting go of the children? how old were they at the time?

and out of interest, where did you put the folded down pram.. was ait a full baby pram, or a buggy?

Neil 10-12-2007 17:47

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 502386)
thats like saying reliant robins are unsuitable for the road and you still see the odd one of them out and about doing fine with the 4 wheeled cars!

Can you still drive a 3 wheeled reliant on a motorbike license at 16?



This looks like another thread that has become bitchy all of a sudden.

WillowTheWhisp 10-12-2007 18:22

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A foldable buggy is a lot different to a pram designed for a newborn baby. Prams are a lot smaller these days than the old coach built prams but if it's a small baby then the pram (even if people call it a buggy) may well not be a fold downable one. When Mimi was a toddler, before Emz was born, I used to struggle with just her and a fold down buggy and some shopping. It's extremely difficult to hold onto a toddler and fold down a buggy. One time I was struggling to do so and the bus driver simply drove off and left us.

I'm a non-pram pusher these days but I know it's difficult when people try to fit more than one in the space(s) - I've been on the Fern Gore bus sometimes when there have been three - but my sympathies are still with the mothers. Even if people haven't had children of their own they sometimes seem to forget that they must have been children themselves once, even babies in prams.

Lilly 10-12-2007 20:11

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 502365)
i really shouldnt add comments to news paper articles :D

Who is the person calling herself 'Kathleen of www.accringtonweb ' who replied to you in such a rude way on the Telegraph website? :confused:

Surely it can't be Kathleen Firth.....with her due to have a baby very soon, surely she wouldn't hold those views re babies on buses.

Bonnyboy 10-12-2007 20:23

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 502512)
Who is the person calling herself 'Kathleen of www.accringtonweb ' who replied to you in such a rude way on the Telegraph website? :confused:

Surely it can't be Kathleen Firth.....with her due to have a baby very soon, surely she wouldn't hold those views re babies on buses.

It was a bit of a nasty comment, been wondering who it was myself. :rolleyes:

flashy 10-12-2007 20:27

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shaz wrote:
they say this is a health and safety risk, i was coming home from accy the other week and the \'lancashire united\' driver had at least 120 people packed into his bus, it seems its ok to get money from paying passengers and risk the safety of others when money is involved but when a child who doesnt pay isnt allowed on the bus its another matter LANCASHIRE UNITED/TRANSDEV pull your finger out and stop making arses of yourselves

Shut up you moaning women. Who wants to be sat on a bus with a crying baby anyway. If the sponged cow got a job she would be able to buy a car and not use the bus.



pmsfl hmmm, i doubt it was actually Kathleen, but i have a damn good idea of who it actually was

flashy 10-12-2007 20:29

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surely this is bringing the name of accyweb down?

emamum 10-12-2007 20:30

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yeah, that was pretty un called for!

flashy 10-12-2007 20:32

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its ok, he thinks he's being funny

emamum 10-12-2007 20:44

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eh?...........................

WillowTheWhisp 10-12-2007 20:45

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Whoever that was hasn't got the right to speak on behalf of AccyWeb. It gives the impression that is the opinion of the forum owner.

flashy 10-12-2007 20:58

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whoever it was cant spell either, i have an idea who it is anyway

mrskitty 10-12-2007 21:18

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Its a good job you dont think its really Kathleen (we already know she wouldn't say stuff like that anyway) cos that could have caused alot of hassle.

flashy 10-12-2007 21:30

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exactly Kitty, like i said, i know who it is ;)

Ber999T 11-12-2007 05:18

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is that chav making a comeback?????????????????????

When I worked on the buses pushchairs had to be folded. If it was in my early days late 1970-early 1980's) they would then be stored under the stairs at the rear, where you boarded and exited) of the bus and in my later days they were placed into the luggage rack just behind the entrance doors but in them days there was NO wheelchair access.

But do have sympthay as the design of some baby carriages not that good for public transport

MargaretR 11-12-2007 05:39

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On some buses the space for wheelchairs and pushchairs has seats for 'the disabled'. I have a disabled bus pass so often sit there. A few times I have moved to the other seating to allow a mum to sit next to her child.
This is not a selfless action, since the child is less likely to scream throughout the journey with mum nearby, and in many respects a mum with a toddler is more 'disabled' than I am

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 08:15

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In some buses the signs about seats for the disabled are slightly further back than the pram bay. There are so many different designs of buses these days.

Tealeaf 11-12-2007 11:25

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If Lancashire United had any real business acumen, they would introduce dedicated buses on the major routes, which would cater purely for fat women with screaming brats, whinging OAPs, dodgy disabled cart drivers and, not least. spotty-faced juvenile delinquents having silly conversations on their mobile phones (when not vandalising the back seats). The journeys would take three times as long as usual - but hey, so what! These characters have no need to get anywhere on time. That would leave the rest of us - who pay for public transport - a faster and more efficient service, which would in turn attract more people from their cars.

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 12:56

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lol it wasnt me id like to know who it really was

flashy 11-12-2007 13:08

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i know it wasnt you, i said that from the beginning

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:11

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im just letting everybody else know... chill

flashy 11-12-2007 13:19

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chill? i wasnt hot in the first place

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:26

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u sed it not me...

emamum 11-12-2007 13:28

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ladies, please! be nice!!!

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 13:35

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lol im only joking with her .

blazey 11-12-2007 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 502701)
If Lancashire United had any real business acumen, they would introduce dedicated buses on the major routes, which would cater purely for fat women with screaming brats, whinging OAPs, dodgy disabled cart drivers and, not least. spotty-faced juvenile delinquents having silly conversations on their mobile phones (when not vandalising the back seats). The journeys would take three times as long as usual - but hey, so what! These characters have no need to get anywhere on time. That would leave the rest of us - who pay for public transport - a faster and more efficient service, which would in turn attract more people from their cars.

Doesnt that cover ALL the bus users? And who's to say they dont need to get anywhere on time! They could have appointments to attend to or trains to catch and stuff.

blazey 11-12-2007 15:29

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 502414)
how many hands do you have? you managed all this with out once letting go of the children? how old were they at the time?

and out of interest, where did you put the folded down pram.. was ait a full baby pram, or a buggy?

brother was 2 and sister was 8. Fairplay to her not needing her hand held but still had to carry all our day out things and all the crap you usually collect from blackpool and keep them close to me and carry a pram. It was a buggy, still needed folding up and down, carrying, and if you have attempted this on a train to blackpool you will know that it makes travelling on the bus in such way (which we had to take 2 of either way) a doddle.

blazey 11-12-2007 15:35

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Got to say aswell that there is a sign on the buses here saying that the space is specifically for wheel chair users, doesn't say anything about it being a space for prams. In fact there isnt anything at all on the bus about prams, not even about the luggage tray or anything.

I like that method of keeping the baby in a sling at all times, those women must find it oh so easy to use public transport with their new borns, and its certainly a method I'd look into when having a baby.

Did anyone watch the programme about bringing up babies in different generations? I liked the 50's method of putting the baby outside in its pram for fresh air aswell regardless of the season. Seemed a bit weird not being able to cuddle the baby though or play with it.

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 15:38

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One thing that worries me about a sling is that the baby is in front of you and could so easily be injured if you walk onto a bus and it sets off and you lurch forward.

blazey 11-12-2007 15:42

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 502840)
One thing that worries me about a sling is that the baby is in front of you and could so easily be injured if you walk onto a bus and it sets off and you lurch forward.

what i thought was worse was that they thought it best to be in contact with the baby at all times, so they sleep with the baby in the sling aswell. I always though you where advised never to put a baby in bed with you.

I fell over holding my sister once because the taxi driver didnt pull right up to the kerb. I was only about 10/11. I just got shouted at off her dad though when looking back, it was more the drivers fault than mine.

WillowTheWhisp 11-12-2007 15:48

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Oh gosh yes I agree, I wouldn't have thought sleeping with the baby in a sling was a good idea at all, you could roll over and suffocate the poor little thing. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...milies/eek.gif

kathleen_firth 11-12-2007 17:13

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i had the comment removed now just to let you know


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