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steeljack 30-12-2007 23:04

Record industry says downloads to PC are illegal
 
ok , everyone knows sales of CDs have slumped over the past couple of years and the recording industry has been going after folks transfering recordings online , now they are saying it is illegal for you to copy your own legally bought CDs to your PC and copying a blank and sharing it with friends , how they are going to manage it I don't know . as the article below mentions folks have been copying records and TV programs for years without any copyright infringement ....be interesting to see what happens

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

steeljack 30-12-2007 23:06

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sorry link doesn't seem to work , you need to scroll down about halfway to find article

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 23:13

Re: Record industry says downloads to PC are illegal
 
So how about putting songs on your MP3 player? Is that going to be illegal? It's getting barmy. Before long you will have to buy a different CD for every individual CD player you own!

cashman 30-12-2007 23:13

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think probably the tactics will be to prosecute a couple make sure the media make a song n dance about it, n hope it scares the **** out of the ordinary joe. seems about the best way to attack an impossible problem.:pblink:

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 23:23

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But why is transferring your own CDs to PC or MP3 player any different than playing them on a home stereo, a portable CD player and a walkman?

Oh, don't tell me they assume that if you put them on your PC you will be sharing them via P2P.

Bonnyboy 30-12-2007 23:26

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I wonder how the likes of Sony would fair in a court of law if they pursued a case to prosecute someone who had purchased a Sony label CD, recorded it on Sony hardware and passed on the recordings, on Sony discs/tapes or whatever. Seems a poor way to reward customer loyalty. Why sell us the ability to record, then whine about it. As for any Artist Rights…c’mon, ya wrote a tune, big deal, ya got paid and handsomely at that.

cashman 30-12-2007 23:26

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 510099)
But why is transferring your own CDs to PC or MP3 player any different than playing them on a home stereo, a portable CD player and a walkman?

Oh, don't tell me they assume that if you put them on your PC you will be sharing them via P2P.

thats all double dutch to me, bring back the gramaphone HMV.:pwink:

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 23:30

Re: Record industry says downloads to PC are illegal
 
I used to have one of those windy up things with a big horn.

Bonnyboy 30-12-2007 23:34

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 510108)
I used to have one of those windy up things with a big horn.

I'm sayin nowt :pph34r:

steeljack 30-12-2007 23:37

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 510108)
I used to have one of those windy up things with a big horn.

check out the Dansette webpage http://www.dansettes.co.uk/index.htm

:psmile: :psmile: :psmile:

WillowTheWhisp 30-12-2007 23:42

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Crikey, that's taking things to extremes!:pohmy:

expat 31-12-2007 05:15

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Some people Download music that they are not sure about, and would not pay for it,get a liking for the group and decide to buy it,also people still prefer to buy the C.D.for the artwork and songs.thats one reason I think a lot of the old groups are making comebacks, How many young Kids of today would be listening to Led Zeppelin unless there parents still had it in there Album collection. I have discovered a lot of Groups by listening to them on the net
and gone out and bought the C.D.

entwisi 31-12-2007 06:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 510091)
So how about putting songs on your MP3 player? Is that going to be illegal? It's getting barmy. Before long you will have to buy a different CD for every individual CD player you own!

Its called DRM ( Digital Rights Management ) and is one of teh major reasons Vista is being pushed so much. Its built right in there at OS level

The 'song' will allow you to put it on one MP3 player. All this enforced by Vista itself. Want to play a movie back on your home projector? Nope, sorry you might be broadcasting it.

You are all going to find more and more of this stuff getting in the way as people accept the crap that Microsoft give you.

WillowTheWhisp 31-12-2007 10:48

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It's absolutely ridiculous and I think it will do more harm than good. People will just stop buying Microsoft stuff and the whole empire will crumble (she says optimistically)

MargaretR 31-12-2007 10:52

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I lack the computer knowledge and confidence to take this 'leap into the unknown' by replacing Microsoft Windows
Perhaps some techies could earn a bob or two converting the systems and showing us the ropes.

WillowTheWhisp 31-12-2007 10:56

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I think that's probably how most people feel. You buy a PC and you just run it with what's there. A lot of people don't even know that alternatives exist and even if they do they are afraid of burning their boats in case it costs an arm and a leg to get back to the status quo if they can't handle or don't like what they change to.

You don't even get recovery discs to reformat from!

entwisi 31-12-2007 11:40

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You should always get a recovery disk, even if its just a CD/floppy that uses data from the HD to restore it.

Margaret, you have PM

WillowTheWhisp 31-12-2007 12:11

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There are no discs with my new laptop. When I have a mo I'll have a look at the bumph and tell you what it says. Of course you don't discover any of this until you have bought the wretched thing and brought it home and taken it out of the box. Have to pop out for an hour or so, will unearth bumph upon my return.

entwisi 31-12-2007 12:13

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Sometimes its a tool you run from Windows that burns the disks off. My Acers both did this and it was really nagging till you did so(quite rightly IMHO) .

jambutty 01-01-2008 14:49

Re: Record industry says downloads to PC are illegal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 510084)
ok , everyone knows sales of CDs have slumped over the past couple of years and the recording industry has been going after folks transfering recordings online , now they are saying it is illegal for you to copy your own legally bought CDs to your PC and copying a blank and sharing it with friends , how they are going to manage it I don't know . as the article below mentions folks have been copying records and TV programs for years without any copyright infringement ....be interesting to see what happens

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

When you bought a record, cassette, (audio or video) CD or DVD you owned the object but not the content on it. You could sell your record, cassette, CD or DVD without a problem though, unless you made a copy to retain for yourself. The same applied to computer programmes. You owned the media but not the content. It was the same with books or magazines. You owned the media but not the content.

The copying of recorded music, TV programmes etc has always been a breach of copyright, irrespective of the fact that people did so. It was nothing more than an urban myth that you could make a copy of your own records for your own use. It was still a breach of the copyright laws. But it has also been impossible to police so the music industry didn’t even bother to try, unless the copy was sold and they found out.

I remember the brouhaha when reel-to-reel tape recorders first became available to the public. Record companies were up in arms because they claimed that the public could buy a record and tape it for their friends. Of course some did but most kids did what I did and recorded the Top Twenty on Radio Luxembourg and listened to it until the next Sunday.

When the Amiga A500 first came out it was possible to load a game and then copy it back to a floppy. Then Commodore got wise and did something to the newer Amiga’s to prevent this from happening. Then eventually the games makers put some sort of copy protection in the programme. But then with X-Copy you could copy those floppies.

The games on cassette tapes for the Spectrum 48 could be copied using a Hi Fi twin cassette deck. Then when the Spectrum 128 came out with it’s own built in cassette you had to tweak the position of the playback and recording heads slightly on your Hi Fi cassette recorder to make a perfect copy.

For decades the music industry has charged outrageous prices for records and tapes when copying was not so easy and made a fortune in the process. But now it is payback time and they don’t like it.


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