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jelly baby 06-01-2008 15:13
NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
On Thursday last I took ma -in-law for our weekly foray into Asda Accy.

As she is disabled, I aim to park in a disabled bay, (providing she remembers the blue badge!) and after a couple of circuits of the car park we eventually find one.
When we return to the car, as we finish loading the bags, a young man screeches into a space a couple of cars away, he leaps out and legs it into the store. Haha methinks, he did not appear to be very disabled, and on closer inspection of his car, what was not there? Damn right - a blue badge. (No valid tax disc either, but that's another story).
So, Ma-in-law insists we go back and complain, as when she forgets the badge we park in an ordinary bay. We then counted 8 other cars in the bays not displaying the badge.
Customer services told us that there was nothing they could do except ask the drivers to move their cars. Now I don't know if the drivers/passengers of these cars are disabled or not, but I thought the criteria for using the disabled bays was that you have to DISPLAY a badge.
Anyway, we were told that from February parking attendants will be patrolling the car park and issuing tickets to those who are parking without badges.
So to all the disabled parking bay pirates - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

cmonstanley 06-01-2008 15:19
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
its just the norm here in accy.there is no one to implement these laws as each legislation gets passed in parliament our council does nothing..the accy police does nothing. so really our parliament is a waste of space until it is law for the powers to be prosecuted for not implementing the legislation:)

Neil 06-01-2008 16:15
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jelly baby (Post 513383)
So to all the disabled parking bay pirates - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
If it bothers you so much why have you warned everyone about it :confused:

lancscat 06-01-2008 19:24
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people just dont respect the need of others.i have had the same thing when i used to take my mother to asda shopping all the disabled spaces full and no blue badges in sight.wot to asda do about it NOTHING! so why have disabled sapces?????????????

Mr Aleks 06-01-2008 19:28
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Adsa dont do parking attendants and dont think they have the power to do anything anyway. Until it becomes strong and this country becomes strong on law breakers of any level people will not respect it.

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2008 20:50
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 513387)
its just the norm here in accy.there is no one to implement these laws as each legislation gets passed in parliament our council does nothing..the accy police does nothing. so really our parliament is a waste of space until it is law for the powers to be prosecuted for not implementing the legislation:)
I'm not sure it's a police matter on a private car park but it is pure ignorance when people who don't need a disabled space prevent those who do from using one. There have been times when we've left a car park because the only remaining free spaces were the disabled ones. We wouldn't assume a right to use one.

cmonstanley 06-01-2008 21:25
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see it just justifies what i say you can make rules but it counts for nothing if nobody is there to inforce it..:theband:

Bonnyboy 06-01-2008 21:32
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Whether the parking issue can be enforced is a matter for the law. Those that pay no heed to disabled parking only notices are just showing a blatant disregard for the needs of others.

lancsdave 06-01-2008 21:36
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Perhaps there could be a system where those who abuse it are actually made disabled and see what its like. :mad:

Bonnyboy 06-01-2008 21:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 513640)
Perhaps there could be a system where those who abuse it are actually made disabled and see what its like. :mad:
Wouldn’t wish a disability on anyone mate , but some folk need to grow up and be a tad more empathetic towards the needs of others in general. Your idea would make a heck of a lot of folk have a rethink on how they behave. :(

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2008 21:46
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Perhaps they could be required to act as chauffeur to a disabled person for a while. That might get through to them.

Neil 06-01-2008 22:25
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Asda should employ people to clamp them and charge for unclamping.

WillowTheWhisp 07-01-2008 07:43
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Well they are going to employ car park attendants to check on who is parking in those disabled spaces so it may come to that.

panther 07-01-2008 18:37
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some of these replys have been deleted:rolleyes:

MargaretR 07-01-2008 18:52
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Some people who WOULD qualify for a disabled driver badge prefer a disabled bus pass instead (me). I am not allowed both, but on the very rare occasions I visit Asda I still abide by the rules -- just choose a time to visit when I am in with a chance of getting near the entrance in an ordinary space.

jambutty 07-01-2008 22:25
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Asda and all the other supermarkets could enforce the Disabled Parking if they wanted to.

The owner of private land (and Asda car parks are private land) that is available for parking for the general public can clamp any vehicle that does not heed the terms for parking on that land and charge a fee for removing the clamp.

I notice that the sign adjacent to the Disabled Bays at the Grimshaw Park, Blackburn Asda only shows the disabled logo, whereas before it used to state that the bays were reserved for people displaying a Blue Badge.

It’s a cop out because anyone can park there now and if challenged all they have to say is, “I am disabled” and the Asda official can only accept their word. They certainly can’t challenge the statement and ask the motorist to prove it even if the person leaps out of the car and runs into Asda or in Blackburn’s case makes a dash to the ATM.

WillowTheWhisp 08-01-2008 08:13
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Or get their disabled grand dad to drive them there, park in the disabled bay and wait for them whilst they go in and do their shopping?

MITZY 08-01-2008 08:30
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
My husand has a disabled badge but if he is having a "good" day he leaves the disabled spaces for someone who may really need them.

WillowTheWhisp 08-01-2008 08:36
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What an admirable attitude Mitzy, so much nicer than the "I've got a blue badge so I'm jolly well going to park here whether I need to or not" brigade.

davo69 08-01-2008 10:08
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lets not forget a lot of disabled people abuse the system as well parking in the bays then sitting there while able bodied people go into shops.they should get a double wheel clamp and there badge removed

WillowTheWhisp 08-01-2008 10:20
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I agree that those who abuse the system on behalf of others should have their privilege removed. Maybe that would make them think twice about it and give due consideration to those who actually need to use the disabled bay for themselves.

Neil 08-01-2008 10:24
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 514192)
What an admirable attitude Mitzy, so much nicer than the "I've got a blue badge so I'm jolly well going to park here whether I need to or not" brigade.
He must not be a grumpy so and so from Darwen :rolleyes:

jambutty 08-01-2008 13:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 514181)
Or get their disabled grand dad to drive them there, park in the disabled bay and wait for them whilst they go in and do their shopping?
I see that you are still hogging the moral high ground with your holier than thou attitude whilst making snide remarks.

Yet do not have the moral fibre to address your facile remarks direct to the person.

jambutty 08-01-2008 14:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 514210)
He must not be a grumpy so and so from Darwen :rolleyes:
Aha! Yet another critter has crawled out from under a stone to make a snide remark.

Any more?

davo69 08-01-2008 14:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 514291)
Aha! Yet another critter has crawled out from under a stone to make a snide remark.

Any more?
you missed me

jambutty 08-01-2008 15:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 514302)
you missed me
No I didn’t. Your post was inconsequential.:tongueout

derekgas 08-01-2008 19:46
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
If you really want to know how concerned asda, or any other supermarket is about certifying disabled parking, note that, the parent and children bays are nearer to the doors than the disabled bays, this is because asda and the likes respect money, and cars with parents and children in are likely to spend more than the (usually) sole occupant of a disabled badgeholder. They are as likely to clamp down on atm users here as they are on disabled bays.

lancsdave 08-01-2008 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 514459)
If you really want to know how concerned asda, or any other supermarket is about certifying disabled parking, note that, the parent and children bays are nearer to the doors than the disabled bays, this is because asda and the likes respect money, and cars with parents and children in are likely to spend more than the (usually) sole occupant of a disabled badgeholder. They are as likely to clamp down on atm users here as they are on disabled bays.
We used to go to Colne Asda a lot and now go to Accrington. The disabled bays are nearer the doors at both, although you could argue that Accy Asda there is a more equal distance

jambutty 08-01-2008 20:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 514459)
If you really want to know how concerned asda, or any other supermarket is about certifying disabled parking, note that, the parent and children bays are nearer to the doors than the disabled bays, this is because asda and the likes respect money, and cars with parents and children in are likely to spend more than the (usually) sole occupant of a disabled badgeholder. They are as likely to clamp down on atm users here as they are on disabled bays.
Not at Grimshaw Park Asda they are not.

However there are some normal parking bays closer to the main entrance than some disabled bays.

Sara 09-01-2008 17:55
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Just finished reading this on the LET web site:

Supermarket Targets Rogue Parkers (from Lancashire Telegraph)

jambutty 09-01-2008 18:29
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sara (Post 514803)
Just finished reading this on the LET web site:

Supermarket Targets Rogue Parkers (from Lancashire Telegraph)
Long overdue.

Roll on 10th March 2008.

davo69 09-01-2008 20:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 514826)
Long overdue.

Roll on 10th March 2008.
Time after time these people find that most of the bays have been taken by people who are capable of walking that little bit further. It is frustrating to see someone pull up in a car and then quite happily going into the shop when they have deprived a disabled shopper of a space." read bottom line. shopper not some disabled person sat there for the good of able bodied people

WillowTheWhisp 09-01-2008 20:32
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 514284)
I see that you are still hogging the moral high ground with your holier than thou attitude whilst making snide remarks.

Yet do not have the moral fibre to address your facile remarks direct to the person.

If the cap fits............

Please note that I did not mention anyone by name intentionally. On your original thread on a similar subject to this I agreed with your point of view until the thread went off on a tangent to pursue the line that someone who has a disabled badge should be entitled to park in a disabled space even if driving there on behalf of someone else and remaining in the car whilst the other person went shopping. I still maintain that this is equally unacceptable and depriving a disabled person of a space they may need.

Why should it be wrong of me to reiterate that point?

Why do you condemn this as 'moral high ground' when the whole point of this and your previous thread is that disabled parking bays are there for use by disabled customers? I am merely agreeing with that point of view, your point of view. Why do you find this so objectionable?

jambutty 10-01-2008 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 514890)
If the cap fits............

Please note that I did not mention anyone by name intentionally. On your original thread on a similar subject to this I agreed with your point of view until the thread went off on a tangent to pursue the line that someone who has a disabled badge should be entitled to park in a disabled space even if driving there on behalf of someone else and remaining in the car whilst the other person went shopping. I still maintain that this is equally unacceptable and depriving a disabled person of a space they may need.

Why should it be wrong of me to reiterate that point?

Why do you condemn this as 'moral high ground' when the whole point of this and your previous thread is that disabled parking bays are there for use by disabled customers? I am merely agreeing with that point of view, your point of view. Why do you find this so objectionable?
Of course you didn’t, that’s what a snide remark is. Aimed at someone without specifying whom but knowing that the person that the remark is aimed it will pick up on it and think, “do they mean me?”

It’s the sort of behaviour you get in a school playground.

To address your other point – I never said “someone who has a disabled badge should be entitled to park in a disabled space even if driving there on behalf of someone else and remaining in the car whilst the other person went shopping”. What I stated was that I saw nothing wrong in a disabled driver or passenger using a disabled bay and having an able bodied person go into the shop to do the shopping for them because they cannot.

The Blue Badge entitles the owner to park in a disabled bay providing that the badge is displayed. Full stop. If when the disabled person parks up and then finds that getting out of the car is just too much of a problem there is nothing wrong in having an able bodied person going into the shop on their behalf.

My car is an automatic meaning that my left leg is redundant as far as driving is concerned. Fortunately it is my left leg that is the problem and once settled in my seat the pain subsides. Although I can just about manage the very short walk from my front door to my car, a trip round the supermarket is virtually out of the question on some occasions. Yes I know some smart Alec will come back with “why don’t I use one of their electric carts?” Have you tried reaching a higher shelf from one of those carts? The simplest and quickest solution is to take an able bodied person with me. That way I occupy the disabled bay for the least amount of time thus releasing it for the next person to use.

You may not agree with that but it is nowhere near as bad as an able bodied person just using the disabled bay on their own having ‘borrowed’ the Blue Badge. Or worse still using a disabled bay with the excuse, “I’ll only be a minute.”

If you are to champion the cause of disabled people then target the real culprits not the disabled who bend the rules slightly for their own convenience.

davo69 10-01-2008 13:32
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what a lot of crap why park in the bay .yes the rules may state that but it shows you have no regard for other disabled people you should use your badge to help yourself to get closer not some one who is not disabled you make a mock of the rules how you live with yourself i dont no

jackyalex 10-01-2008 15:47
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Its the same with parent and toddler parking, just cause your a mum or a dad doesnt mean that you can park your car in that space, it means if you have your baby/toddler with you you can park there, and i hate those peeps that sit waiting for a parking space when there aint 1 or they aint even unloaded their trolly yet move out of the way and let other drivers pass you, you hold everyone up

WillowTheWhisp 10-01-2008 16:33
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I understand perfectly your reasons for taking an able-bodied person to Asda to do your shopping for you whilst you remain in your car. That makes a great deal of sense. The part which does not make sense is why you park in a disabled bay. The person going into the store is able-bodied by your own admission and therefore perfectly capable of walking to the store from a non-disabled parking bay. You do not get out of your car and so you have no need of being close to the store.

You are therefore depriving a disabled person of a parking space which they may need and which you do not.

I simply cannot fathom why you are unable to see this.

You may interpret my reference to it as childish or 'snidey' if you wish but nevertheless I will still maintain my point of view that you, or anyone else, occupying a disabled bay which they do not need should not be doing so. It is also relevant to this thread and I see no reason why it should not be mentioned on this thread.

katex 10-01-2008 17:24
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sara (Post 514803)
Just finished reading this on the LET web site:

Supermarket Targets Rogue Parkers (from Lancashire Telegraph)
Heard a little of this at lunchtime Sara and any fines are being donated to charity. Wondered how they were going to get this money,as anyone who is rude enough to park in these spaces is not going to pay up easily and suspect lots of these cases may go through the civil courts. Wonder if they will ask for the £ 30 if they pay up at once, like a parking ticket ?

jambutty 10-01-2008 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davo69 (Post 515151)
what a lot of crap why park in the bay .yes the rules may state that but it shows you have no regard for other disabled people you should use your badge to help yourself to get closer not some one who is not disabled you make a mock of the rules how you live with yourself i dont no
The only crap is your inane ravings.

I am sat here and my left leg is not painful (well not too much), just numb and not fully under my control but I feel that I could get up and walk a little. It is only when I try that I find out the extent of the problem at that time. It is so easy to forget that movement means pain when you are not moving.

It’s the same when you have been ill and bedridden for a couple of weeks. One morning you wake up and feel great until you get up and keel over.

Taking an able bodied person with me is a back up in case I cannot walk when I get there. I have every intention of doing my own shopping but there are times when I know that MAY not be possible. And those times are not really predictable.

So what do you propose that I should do? Park away and not do my own shopping?

Until you get into such a situation keep your crass opinions to yourself.

derekgas 10-01-2008 17:55
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Willow rocks!!

WillowTheWhisp 10-01-2008 17:58
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If you're going to go into Asda yourself then of course you have every right to park in the disabled bay and go in, I don't think anyone has ever raised an objection to that. That's the whole point and purpose of those allocated parking bays. However, if once you get there you don't feel up to going into the store and make a decision that your able-bodied companion will go in for you then that's the point at which you park in an ordinary parking bay. It's quite simple.

MargaretR 10-01-2008 17:59
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If some kindly friend or relative is willing to do your shopping, and you are content to let them pick the goods of the shelves on your behalf, why do you need to accompany them?

WillowTheWhisp 10-01-2008 18:01
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Well he has said he might feel up to going in the store himself - a point he hadn't brought up before - so if he does then of course he should park in the disabled bay. Sometimes people just fancy having a look at what's on the shelves and maybe spot something they hadn't thought of buying. Busman does that all the time. ;)

garinda 10-01-2008 18:01
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 515253)
So what do you propose that I should do? Park away and not do my own shopping?
If you are well enough to get out of the car, and do your own shopping, fine, park in a disabled space.

If when you get there, you're not well enough to get out and shop, and your able bodied passenger is going to do it, then you should morally park in an ordinary space. Thus allowing someone who really needs it the opportunity to try and do their shopping, and live their life as easily, and as normally, as they can.

It's the selfish use of these badges which will mean they are eventually taken away from those that need them.

You may have the legal right to do what you do, but morally you are abusing the privilege of having a badge.

Shame on you.

garinda 10-01-2008 18:05
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...and by the way, if you are disabled enough to qualify for a badge, you should be retested, to make sure your disablity doesn't make you a danger to other people. Something I have to do, but which I recall you haven't.

Again, not a legal requirement, just something I think should be applied to all drivers who qualify for a blue badge.

jambutty 10-01-2008 18:11
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 515258)
If you're going to go into Asda yourself then of course you have every right to park in the disabled bay and go in, I don't think anyone has ever raised an objection to that. That's the whole point and purpose of those allocated parking bays. However, if once you get there you don't feel up to going into the store and make a decision that your able-bodied companion will go in for you then that's the point at which you park in an ordinary parking bay. It's quite simple.
So having parked up in a Disabled Bay I then discover that I can’t really make my own shopping trip you advocate that I move the car to some other parking spot.

Your holier than thou attitude never ceases to amaze me.

jambutty 10-01-2008 18:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 515259)
If some kindly friend or relative is willing to do your shopping, and you are content to let them pick the goods of the shelves on your behalf, why do you need to accompany them?
Try reading the posts instead of jumping in half way.

katex 10-01-2008 18:16
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 515267)
...and by the way, if you are disabled enough to qualify for a badge, you should be retested, to make sure your disablity doesn't make you a danger to other people. Something I have to do, but which I recall you haven't.

Again, not a legal requirement, just something I think should be applied to all drivers who qualify for a blue badge.

MMmmm .. wondered about this myself Garinda. My case slightly different, however :-

When I was 39 broke me hip (I'm sooo clumsy) had to have a replacement at 42 .. never looked back. Wasn't 'til I was 41 realised could have applied for badge, etc., as had young child, could only walk about 100 yards before I was in absolute agony and very difficult. After op. (hope not boring you with this :rolleyes:) wrote to whoever to explain .. not disabled anymore, they withdrew all benefits. Always wonder if I had not reported my 'recovery' if I could have still been drawing these ? .. course you are expected to, but as no retesting ? would they have ever found out ?

garinda 10-01-2008 18:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 515275)
MMmmm .. wondered about this myself Garinda. My case slightly different, however :-

When I was 39 broke me hip (I'm sooo clumsy) had to have a replacement at 42 .. never looked back. Wasn't 'til I was 41 realised could have applied for badge, etc., as had young child, could only walk about 100 yards before I was in absolute agony and very difficult. After op. (hope not boring you with this :rolleyes:) wrote to whoever to explain .. not disabled anymore, they withdrew all benefits. Always wonder if I had not reported my 'recovery' if I could have still been drawing these ? .. course you are expected to, but as no retesting ? would they have ever found out ?
Legally you can have a blue badge, and not necessarily be retested. If however the disability has occured since you first passed your test, it makes sense to me that the disability that qualifies you for parking privileges, should mean the person is retested, to make sure that the new disability doesn't endanger both the driver or other people. If someone passed their original test with their disability, so be it, they have been tested and are deemed to be road worthy.

My licence has just been renewed for another three years...meaning I'm supposedly safe on the roads.:D

park381 10-01-2008 18:35
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I's not just the disabled parking spots that are abused, the mother & toddler parking spots are as well.

It also seems very strange that a lot of these "disabled" people drive the large 4x4 type motors and can't seem to park them straight :rolleyes:

davo69 10-01-2008 18:38
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 515253)
The only crap is your inane ravings.

I am sat here and my left leg is not painful (well not too much), just numb and not fully under my control but I feel that I could get up and walk a little. It is only when I try that I find out the extent of the problem at that time. It is so easy to forget that movement means pain when you are not moving.

It’s the same when you have been ill and bedridden for a couple of weeks. One morning you wake up and feel great until you get up and keel over.

Taking an able bodied person with me is a back up in case I cannot walk when I get there. I have every intention of doing my own shopping but there are times when I know that MAY not be possible. And those times are not really predictable.

So what do you propose that I should do? Park away and not do my own shopping?

Until you get into such a situation keep your crass opinions to yourself.
my dad before he passed away was in a very bad situation with is illness but would still take my mum shopping if he wasent feeling up to walking he would never ever be selfish enough to take up a bay just to sit there because he ahd a blue badge .your atitude is sod everyone i have blue badge.

panther 10-01-2008 18:59
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
one question, (not about disabled).....
but does the child parking spaces only apply to babies & toddlers, or is it for kids under such a age???

WillowTheWhisp 10-01-2008 19:11
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
I still can't figure out why supporting 'disabled bays for disabled people' makes me holier than thou. Jambutty do you understand that I would object if an able bodied person parked in a bay and prevented you from using it for a legitimate purpose? Your original point in your previous thread was that people should not abuse the disabled parking spaces when they have no need of them and I FULLY SUPPORT your stance on this issue. It seems to be you who doesn't.

You've got a valid point there Rindy about disability possibly affecting thre person's ability to drive. My late husband was diabetic and suffered from retinopathy. For a period when he was undergoing laser treatment he forfeited his driving licence as his vision wasn't up to the requirements. When the treatment had sorted the problem out and his vision subsequently retested he got his licence back.

katex 10-01-2008 19:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by park381 (Post 515294)
I's not just the disabled parking spots that are abused, the mother & toddler parking spots are as well.

It also seems very strange that a lot of these "disabled" people drive the large 4x4 type motors and can't seem to park them straight :rolleyes:
Probably men drivers park381 !

Understand Asda are applying this to mother and toddler parking too, not sure how they will define this 'toddler' label Panther.we will have to talk to the Parking attendants to see what their guidance is on this.

harwood red 10-01-2008 21:59
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 515269)
So having parked up in a Disabled Bay I then discover that I can’t really make my own shopping trip you advocate that I move the car to some other parking spot.
Err may be directed at willow

But I would say YES!!

garinda 10-01-2008 23:27
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 515269)
So having parked up in a Disabled Bay I then discover that I can’t really make my own shopping trip you advocate that I move the car to some other parking spot..
Morally, yes you should.

Not fit to shop fair enough, but fit enough to still drive, then you should leave the designated spaces for those disabled drivers who may actually need it to do their own shopping, and who through your own selfishness might not be able to do just that.

It seems quite clear to everyone else.

andrewb 11-01-2008 00:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 515441)
Morally, yes you should.

Not fit to shop fair enough, but fit enough to still drive, then you should leave the designated spaces for those disabled drivers who may actually need it to do their own shopping, and who through your own selfishness might not be able to do just that.

It seems quite clear to everyone else.
Hear hear!

davo69 11-01-2008 08:51
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I Think It Is Clear That No One Is At All Against Disabled Parking Bays We Seem To All Say The Same They Should Not Be Abused By Able Bodied People Or Like Wise By Disabled People The Bays Are There For Disabled People Who Are There To Enter The Premisis Not Just Sit There And Stop Some Other Disabled Person Who Needs To Shop.why Cant You See This Jambutty And For Once Be A Man And Say You Are Wrong

WillowTheWhisp 11-01-2008 09:38
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dead .... flogging ..... horse .... a

Rearrange as required. ;)

andrewb 11-01-2008 12:37
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Dead people caught selling horses on ebay??

davo69 11-01-2008 12:51
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 515501)
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park381 11-01-2008 14:26
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 515331)
Probably men drivers park381 !
Don't think thats true I see more and more females driving the large 4x4 either shopping or collecting kids from school :D

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Understand Asda are applying this to mother and toddler parking too, not sure how they will define this 'toddler' label Panther.we will have to talk to the Parking attendants to see what their guidance is on this.
And so they should, was at Asda this morning, female on her own loading her car, which was parked in mother and toddler spot.
Mind you she did have a child seat in the back of the car, could be the child was still in the store shopping :D

jelly baby 11-01-2008 14:31
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Went to Accy Asda this morning and the car park was being patrolled by parking wardens.

MargaretR 11-01-2008 14:36
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
I agree that parents with young children need a bigger space to load and unload belted youngsters from rear seats, but think that the restriction of these spaces, (for their use only), should be lifted between 8pm and 6am- when young children should be at home.

If I ever need cash late evening, the machines in the foyer appear safer than those on streets, and a shorter return walk to the car would feel safer too

garinda 12-01-2008 14:49
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
Notice selfish sod's been quiet, since he realised he was in a minority of one, regarding his parking in a disabled space when he's not getting out of the car.

Perhaps he's been clamped.:D

park381 12-01-2008 14:58
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
[quote=garinda;516024]Notice selfish sod's been quiet, since he realised he was in a minority of one, regarding his parking in a disabled space when he's not getting out of the car.

Perhaps he's been clamped.:D[/qote]


Chip and shoulder spring to mind :D

garinda 12-01-2008 15:03
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 516024)
Notice selfish sod's been quiet, since he realised he was in a minority of one, regarding his parking in a disabled space when he's not getting out of the car.

Perhaps he's been clamped.:D[/qote]


Chip and shoulder spring to mind :D

Does having a dodgy shoulder chip qualify one for a blue badge?:D

park381 12-01-2008 16:26
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 516035)
Does having a dodgy shoulder chip qualify one for a blue badge?:D
Could well do, they seem to hand them out for anything these days

Wish I could get one. :D

garinda 26-01-2008 16:12
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 516024)
Notice selfish sod's been quiet, since he realised he was in a minority of one, regarding his parking in a disabled space when he's not getting out of the car.

Perhaps he's been clamped.:D

That's good, he's back online, but strangely quiet, since the vast majority of members thought him a selfish sod, over this issue.

jambutty 26-01-2008 16:22
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 522319)
That's good, he's back online, but strangely quiet, since the vast majority of members thought him a selfish sod, over this issue.
I see that the children are still in the playground grouped together pointing, whispering and giggling.

Grow up jerks!

Neil 26-01-2008 19:24
Re: NON disabled drivers at Asda
 
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 522325)
I see that the children are still in the playground grouped together pointing, whispering and giggling.

Grow up jerks!
If growing up will make me like you, I will stay in the playground thank you.


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