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If they come back Lisa tell them to bogg off. They have no right to enter your house.

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Not at all, when the license is dropped and it will be in time, I am sure many BBC stations will shut down. That will just leave a gap in the market or other stations to start up.


And less of the cheek or I might change my mind and not help you out at the next meet :rolleyes::D

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I agree with paying for the tv licence. How many programmes like Blue Planet would be made if it was a commercial enterprise. Just think on how many years it took to make that for it to come to tv. Then you have question time, the news, top gear, masterchef, etc. Sorry but i think it is good value for money. If you go into it - tv programmes are sold abroad like blue planet etc and its bringing the money in to make the next lot of programmes. Our tv licence aint that much if you think about how much you use bbc for the radio and for tv - even sky and bskyb etc show old bbc programmes which they bought from the bbc. Even though we moan about it - we would moan even more if we had to watch the adverts etc on bbc 1 and 2.

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Can remember when my mum died - she was over 75 so had the free tv licence, about a month later a thread was started about the tv licence - i realised i didnt have one so signed up online for one.

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Loads, look at all the National Geo and Discovery programmes that are made.

Top gear, there are shed loads of car programmes on the commercial channels. We are probably one of the only countries in the world with this silly old idea. The funny thing is that Sky UK is classed as the worlds best and that is commercial.

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and neil how many of old bbc programmes are shown on sky?

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Pleased you put up such a constructive post Shill .. thank you .. agree with every word you have said.

It's the licence dodgers that are a pain in the rearend, causing us virtuous payers to pay more !!

And Neil .. What makes you think I am a charity case and need any help in the area you suggest ... :silly: :D

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Yes loads of them. Do you think that without the BBC no TV programs whould be made anymore. Of course they would. In fact they may make better ones because they have to make money. I don't like privatised companies (on the whole) because they don't need that survival instinct that makes you want to perform.

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I know they will. How do itv etc go on they dont show old bbc programmes as such do they. Have you not seen what people from abroad say about our bbc - they say we are lucky to have such a broadcaster.

Was reading a newspaper story about the Life in cold blood series - with sir david attenborough and he said we are lucky to have the bbc otherwise programmes like this wouldnt be made because commercial companys wouldnt go the whole hog for lizards reptiles etc because theyre not cuddly monkeys etc.

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So before Sky came along you didnt watch tv, didnt listen to radio 1 etc

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I think that is all part of it, things change, so should the BBC.

Attenborough would say that, he works for the BBC. Just look at other documentaries, there are other good ones made as well.

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Primarily I would watch ITV, but then I would say that, it's true however.

I did/do watch BBC programmes, I may as well, I pay through the nose for the privilege.

Apply the argument to other walks of life. Would you be happy to have your windows cleaned and have to pay for it without asking for the service, whether a good job was done or not ?

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lol dont worry neil - that was about ten years ago ( and i'm still waiting )- i am a little wiser and - thank god better off than i was back then

(its also for reasons such as these that i didnt get a cat as a pet ):dogrun::D

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if we didn,nt have the bbc we would have cr** tv on every channel.where else would we get educational programmes not influenced by commercial companies and can be held accountable to the licence payer,you dont get that with sky or any other commercial channel they just find new ways to rip you off and put more crap on....