Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

..I've just done had a little return walk involving a route passing through the cap park of what used to be The Hyndburn Sports Centre. Alas, no more. The place appears to have been taken over by a large dog-owners association (is it something to do with the councils privatisation policy?) Anyway, while passing through from the Henry Street side I counted 4 dogs (with their owners present) defecating on the grass to the side, and then another 3 dogs defecating by the kissing gate at Emma street. On my return half an hour later, some 4 dogs were defecating by the kissing gate (owners present, 2 proudly displaying rosettes...) and another 2 on the grass verge rurther further up.

Is all this stuff going for recycling? Is it being returned from whence it came (most of these dog owners appear to be from out of town)? Is there not a council bye-law and national lawthat dog derecation in a public place is a criminal offence? Where are the community support officers? Why are these people being allowed to get away with this? How much money have they paid to allow them to get away with this?

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

It's all over town Tealeaf, you've really got to watch where you step:pooh: There is only one dog warden in Accy and according to this weeks observer he is overworked and the council cannot afford more bins. They said something like they can't afford for them to be emptied regularly so it would cause a health hazard having full dog poo bins everywhere!!!! As opposed to the health hazard of :pooh: all over the pavements, for people to step in and kiddies to slip in, because lets face it kiddies always do..
I regularly use the bins on Highams playing field, and can tell you that after a weekend you are hard pressed to fit anymore bags in them. Plenty of folk must be using them round here, there's just not enough.

If the council were considering wasting money by putting some monstrous so -called art work on top of the coppice I know what it should be....:pooh:

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

My point is that the Council are instumental in organising this doghouse...the sports centre has been turned into a Mini-Crufts for this afternoon...well, the dogs will be gone...but the s**t will still be there. This is outrageous. Just remember that next time when some council official tells you not to leave your black bin liner next to your wheelie bin.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

we go out with empty carrier bags & pick it up, im sure you can get doggie bags free from somewhere but cant remember were.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I heard you can get free doggy doo bags from the council. I usually use a carrier bag (they're bigger)

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

you can get poo bags from the council either free or a small fee of twenty pence something like that...cant remember.they are green and black.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

...most of these people who were with these "showdogs" were from out of town...the dogs were being exhibited on the main sports centre floor. Alot of the vehicles around the car park were adapted dog carriers (like police dog vans)...whatever, they were bringing their dogs out, walking them round the carpark & grass and then letting them crap all over the grass prior to them taking them inside...quite honestly, there was one woman stood there chatting on her mobile while the dog was doing it'd buisness right there..she did'nt give a dam.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Some poor sod who works at the sports centre might have the pleasure of cleaning that up. You'd think if it was an organised event the council would have made provision for the collection and disposal of the dog waste.
Then again, who am I kidding, they can't tackle household waste and recycling, dog waste would just push em over the edge.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I may be wrong in blaming the council directly.....is'nt the sports centre run by a "trust" or something similar? Whatever, I still found it highly offensive that this sort of event was organised without any thought going into the "by product"

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I know that the people who work at the sports centre are employed by Lancs County Council, cos if you're a council employee you get discounts at the sports centre. You've thought that somebody would have organised some sort of clean up after a planned event.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

The green poo bags were free for one week only, that was last week. The reason being the council thought that it would encourage dog owners to clean up there dog's mess.I cant see people who DONT clean up after there dog walking down to the town hall for the freebies. The price of the bags are 25 pence per 50, as i being a good dog owner cleans up the mess.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

As someone who only has a "virtual dog"but also a quite clumsy 8 year old I am in full agreement that something needs to be done...does anyone ever get fined? Apparently there are £1000 penalty notices on Essex St where this is a major issue. Name and shame I say,and next time I see it happening I will "politely" ask the owner to remove it!Maybe if we all carried bags and then picked up the offending item and returned it to the owner with a "You've dropped this" people might think twice! :nono8: :nono8:

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

We've come a long way since sewage flowed down the streets and you had to watch for people throwing their waste out the windows. We would now be completely disgusted if we had to walk past human waste - but not many people bat an eyelid if it's dog poo????

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

The daft thing about this is that it doesn't seem as much of an issue elsewhere...my fella's parents live in Derbyshire and it's so clean, no litter,and no dog poo!They even commented on it on a recent visit here and it doesn't exactly fill you with community pride!I think the fines need to be imposed and if you see a regular offender....grass 'em up!. :mad:

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

i live near essex street and it is bad but no i seem to do anything

if your dog has diorahoa while he/she s***les please be clean and pick it up

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Thanks..... I have been trying to get dog poo alley's one and two cleaned up for a while. [Essex St & Turkey St] £1000 fines stickers have been placed and Steve Wood has been asked to attend. He says he does but I am not convinced.Essx St is disgusting.

The Labour Party is proposing extending the wardens with a Zero Tolerance approach and targeting of a) dog foulers b) dog poo alleys with instant £50 fines. We are working on a 'education' day for Turkey Street.

Graham Jones

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Why only proposing ? why not make a political statement...............:stop:

pick up your s**t or the Labor party will fine you? :swear8:
Only the Labor party care about s**t? :thumbsup:
Only Conservitives let there dogs s**t in public. :gorgeous:
Im sure there are loads more but cant think of them at the moment. :help:

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

How are they going to implement a 50 quid instant fine? Most people, especially if they're out taking their dog for a crap, don't carry that much money with them.

There certainly should be a zero tolerence approach; instant fines are no good because a) it's impossible to implement and b) it reduces the brevity of the offence. The offence of letting your dog crap in the street should be treated as no less than a criminal offence & those found in the process of committing the crime should be arrested, cautioned and removed to the police station and then given the option of paying the full £1000pds by arrangement or going before the courts...a guilty verdict would result in a five thousand quid fine and/or a minimum period of imprisonment.

Only such a policy will give us the clean streets we deserve. Don't let the animal lovers put you off.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

While on the subject of poo, why is nothing ever said about cat's leaving there mess everywhere.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

...and the sames goes for cats. At the end of the day, there's only one decent sort of animal - and thats the sort you can eat. If you can't fry it, grill it, roast it or boil it, then forget it. All the rest are just a nuisance.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

You have such a good way of expressing yourself T. lol

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I know..........

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I agree with the zero tolerance £1000 fine thingy. Being a dog owner who does clean up after my dog (albeit unpleasant) I can't abide others not doing so. The council would probably argue that it would be too costly to employ people to police this system, but if they did it, the wages and dog poo bins, and litter bins for that matter would be paid for by the fines. The fines from the back of Maudsley st alone would keep the system going for a year... Honestly it's really bad up there...

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Gee, I'm glad I'm not a dog in Tealeafland................I've heard of Hot Dogs...and Cat on a hot tin roof....but...as usual...you're right.

The problem is not the animals...(they can't read or vote for the pollies), but the owners. If they are fined more than once they should loose their right to keep dogs etc., But as ever...it cannot be controlled as they've done away with dog licences!!

One of my neighbours lets his 3 dogs loose and they come into my garden and do their little uppsies on my grass. So I collect it, wait until I've got a plastic bag full and then tip it onto his driveway!!! He does'nt like it, especially when his car drives through it and squashes it allover the drive.

As for the"Budding Crufts" at theSports centre...Easy. Charge all attenders an extra 50p each for the removal of their dogs s**t. The employ a dog s**t removal officer or two at £5 an hour.

Cometh the hour...cometh the S**t removal officer

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Typical Germans

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Ja wohl...Herr Teeblatter (that's German for Tealeaf!)

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I've just been reading the Telegraph website............it appears that teachers at Peel Park primary school are having to inspect the playing field area for dog dirt before they let the kids out....the headmaster has been threatened on several occaisions when challenging dog owners letting their dogs do the business...this is disgusting. Who are these scumbags that do this? It's not a teachers job to be confronted by this vermin in the pursuit of their jobs.........can tthe teachers not be supplied with cameras, get the piccy's, trace the culprits then hit 'em hard with heavy fines. We owe it to the kids to do so.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

They could always use this method to keep the pavement clean.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

what about horse s**t she do more in 1 go than my dog in a month lol,i think they should carry a bucket and spade!!!

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Good fertiliser is horse manure. Everybody used to run out onto the street with a bucket and spade when I was a kid. Free fertiliser for their gardens..

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I agree with you Tealeaf, its absolutely disgusting, I know there are a lot of responsible dog owners, but I think there are more who just leave it, the pavements around Accrington are also disgusting, these people cant even be bothered to take their dogs to the side of the road.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Can I also register my disgust and outright fury at this phenomena. Whilst walking my five-year old to and from school I find it hard to listen properly to what he is saying as I am constantly looking for the foul menace and interupting him with cries of "Watch out...oops, some more over there!" It's a two-minute walk and I once counted between 20-30 'accident blackspots'!

Whilst many dog owners are responsible the blame lies at the feet (quite literally!) of the owners. I fear there is a NIMBY mentality going on with such people - if it was on their street then they wouldn't like it either. Along with people shouting and argueing in residential areas in the small hours, idle litter bugs, parents who cant be bothered to keep an eye on their children and let them cause annoyance in other areas with their juvenile anti-social behavior etc. etc. it all comes from two common factors - Sheer Pig Ignorance and Pure Selfishness. Many of us abide by the notion of 'thinking about other people' - yet there is a group of people from all walks of life who believe that the 'rules' are there for others to live by and that they are in some way exempt.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

One solution would surely be a "Pooper Scooper Catapult", accurate to within say 25 yards......basically, you see some dog owner letting their dog do it's business...let them move away, run up to the site of the crime, scoop up the offending material, then fire away..PING! Right at the back of their head....

What can they do about it? Afterall, you're simply returning something that's rightfully their's.....and they can't exactly complain to the cops, can they...maximum fine a thousand quid. No one gets hurt, either.

I think I'll pop into the patent office on the way to the train tomorrow.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

The thing is if you confront someone about it then they either look at you like you're asking something unreasonable of them, or if they are the shorthaired, white-socks over cheap tracky bottom brigade with killer Staff or Rottweiler in tow (not on a leash of course) then you are likely to get your head kicked in....when I saw someone blatantly tossing litter onto the street (usually when there is a bin some 10 yards away) I used to pick it up and hand it to them saying "I think you dropped something mate" in an effort to shame them into disposing with it in the correct manner - I usually just got a gobful of abuse so I don't bother now.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Lettie has one of those killer crossbreeds - it's a mean looking machine. But she uses a pooper scooper, or so she says......

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I don't have a pooper scooper, I use a carrier bag, and yes I always pick up. Tealeaf, will you please empty some of your messages from your inbox, I'm trying to reply to the one you sent me. :D

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Should be room now.....

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I didn't think you were generalising for a minute Cee. I know the type of owners you mean as there seems to be plenty of them around. My doggy photo can be viewed in the funny photos section under pets.. She is a crossbreed of English Bull and Staff. She has a fantastic temperament with people, and is spoiled rotten. Unfortunately, due to being attacked as a young dog, by 2 dogs of the aforementioned type of owners, she is very wary of other dogs, and will fight when provoked by them. She loves cats though.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Its a crime that such people own these lovable dogs then give them an attitude just to appease their pathetic, sagging egos.

Whilst on the subject (and I know its an old one) why don't you see white dog crap anymore - something to do with dog diet? Any canine fecal experts out there?!

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

The guy who used to go around painting it white, was laid off by the council in the last round of cuts. They hope to reinstate him when you are joined up with Blackburn and Darwin.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

White dog poo is to do with diet. Dogs tend to be fed tinned or biscuit type foods now. Convenience food for dogs. I remember my neighbours dog as a kid. He was always gnawing on bones , scraps of fresh meat etc. Don't think he was ever fed tinned food. He had white poo after eating bones. Not only do we feed ourselves and our kids processed convenience Mc Rubbish food, but we also give it to our pets.. :D

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

ok then lets shame them i will be out with the camera so where are the bad areas or should i say the worst areas

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Bring back WHITE POO is what I say................... It doesn't smell as bad and doesn't make as bad a mess if your kids stand in it :) :)

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

Try following a poodle about, there poo is white. Trust me.

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

What animal has blue poo? Anyone know?

Re: Hyndburn Dog Dirt Centre
 

I think so but I dont want to spoil anyone elses fun....as an aside apparently if you add something called methylene blue to dog food then after a period it turns their excrement blue. Why one would want to do that is anybodys guess - however fluorescent poo would be a boon for late night walks.