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West Ender 29-03-2008 20:53
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
I don't go in chat rooms because, I admit it, I can't keep up - they tend to go too fast for me - so I'll reserve judgement on what's gone on in this one.

I'm a member of 3 other discussion forums similar to this one and I've seen people resign/chuck in the towel/announce their departure/flounce out numerous times for various reasons. Why bother? If you get annoyed/fed up/disgusted etc. why not just stop posting? Is it to give others the chance to say, "Oh please don't go", or is it just in case nobody notices you've gone? ;)

I doubt AccyWeb will go into a decline if a few members stop posting. It's a good site with a lot of good personalities and some interesting viewpoints and the odd spectacular argument just makes it more interesting. :D

Royboy39 29-03-2008 20:56
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 554084)
Royboy, I have said nothing I am ashamed of, and thanks to other members of this forum anything I have said is now in the public domain anyway.
Cherokee, I am 40 years old and act my age.
Lindsay...I know that.......and leave the other exposed

WillowTheWhisp 29-03-2008 20:57
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
I am now curious after what Royboy said if something is said in the chatroom which could cause legal problems for the site if it were read by 'the law enforcement brigade' - would it mean AccyWeb being closed down?

Gayle 29-03-2008 21:02
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Oh well, it got me so curious that i actually tried to get into the chat room but my security settings won't let me - possibly a good thing under the circumstances I think.
:)

emamum 29-03-2008 21:03
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554081)
I think you do?
this seems to be aimed at me?? would you like to tell us what you mean?

Royboy39 29-03-2008 21:04
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 554091)
I am now curious after what Royboy said if something is said in the chatroom which could cause legal problems for the site if it were read by 'the law enforcement brigade' - would it mean AccyWeb being closed down?
Lets not forget we have MP's, Councillors and members of the police force as members of this forum.........It only takes one to log in to the chatroom and who know's what will be the outcome?

onlyme 29-03-2008 21:09
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
So does anyone have any ideas on how to resolve this???

emamum 29-03-2008 21:10
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
what are you talking about?

onlyme 29-03-2008 21:10
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554102)
what are you talking about?
me? I'm on about stopping all this bickering?

Margaret Pilkington 29-03-2008 21:11
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
That may be the case(I don't know, I wasn't there) Lindsay, but your advice still holds good.

derekgas 29-03-2008 21:12
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 554101)
So does anyone have any ideas on how to resolve this???
I do, delete the thread!

West Ender 29-03-2008 21:14
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 554101)
So does anyone have any ideas on how to resolve this???

Yes, stop replying, let it drop. It takes 2 (at least) to make an argument.

Gayle 29-03-2008 21:16
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Why couldn't you all have had this argument a couple of weeks ago, then it could have been nominated for an award.

MargaretR 29-03-2008 21:16
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
I was in the chat room for a short time last night, but it seems the contentious things were said after I left, so I cannot comment.
However, as I entered the first chat line I read was Blazey using the word s**g
So perhaps you understand why I think that she is the root cause of any deterioration of standards that may have occurred

emamum 29-03-2008 21:16
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
i didnt mean you onlyme :D i meant royboy....

Royboy39 29-03-2008 21:22
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554112)
i didnt mean you onlyme :D i meant royboy....
It would be interesting to know if a record was kept of this particular chatroom activity....then we would know who was in the driving seat? or who said what?

andrewb 29-03-2008 21:26
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There isn't any legal problems. If people are breaking the law (and nobody has from what I have seen) then its a problem for the authorities and that individual, sites like Accringtonweb are not directly responsible for their content because its user generated. They simply need to be able to remove it when necessary. Since chat is ongoing its not possible for the chat to be moderated anyway, hence Accringtonweb will not fall foul of anyone saying something they shouldn't.

I don't know if things have been said that I don't know about, but just because something is sick and not something you would approve of, doesn't mean its against the law, simply distasteful.

Some people like to talk about things others wouldn't dream of, some are more open than others etc., so I think its fine that some people join a separate room if they prefer to have less graphic discussions.

emamum 29-03-2008 21:27
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554116)
It would be interesting to know if a record was kept of this particular chatroom activity....then we would know who was in the driving seat? or who said what?
oh will you just spit it out!

MargaretR 29-03-2008 21:30
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Cyfr - I can only say to you what I said in another thread today-

Matrimony not recommended

andrewb 29-03-2008 21:34
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 554119)
Cyfr - I can only say to you what I said in another thread today-

Matrimony not recommended
Whys that? :p

MargaretR 29-03-2008 21:36
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 554123)
Whys that? :p
To have a promising career in politics you would need a partner who has discretion and good taste

Royboy39 29-03-2008 21:38
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 554117)
There isn't any legal problems. If people are breaking the law (and nobody has from what I have seen) then its a problem for the authorities and that individual, sites like Accringtonweb are not directly responsible for their content because its user generated. They simply need to be able to remove it when necessary. Since chat is ongoing its not possible for the chat to be moderated anyway, hence Accringtonweb will not fall foul of anyone saying something they shouldn't.

I don't know if things have been said that I don't know about, but just because something is sick and not something you would approve of, doesn't mean its against the law, simply distasteful.

Some people like to talk about things others wouldn't dream of, some are more open than others etc., so I think its fine that some people join a separate room if they prefer to have less graphic discussions.
I think this shows the morality of the younger generation who accept swearing as the 'norm' if you use foul language in the chatroom is that to be accepted ...NO....would you choose to use foul language on the forum..NO...you would soon be shot down in flames....Is this to cover up the inner self....I wonder?

WillowTheWhisp 29-03-2008 21:40
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I don't think foul language is illegal. You hear plenty of it in the street outside. It isn't something I personally like but I don't think it would be breaking the law to use it in the chatroom. Oddly enough it is allowed in the over 18s but not on the open forum. Is the chatroom open to all ages?

andrewb 29-03-2008 21:46
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554125)
I think this shows the morality of the younger generation who accept swearing as the 'norm' if you use foul language in the chatroom is that to be accepted ...NO....would you choose to use foul language on the forum..NO...you would soon be shot down in flames....Is this to cover up the inner self....I wonder?
Not sure if you're referring to me, but my post was directed at the legal aspects of the chat room since people were enquiring. I didn't approve or disapprove of anything said. I am of the younger generation, and I don't swear in either the chat room or the forum.

Royboy39 29-03-2008 21:51
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 554126)
I don't think foul language is illegal. You hear plenty of it in the street outside. It isn't something I personally like but I don't think it would be breaking the law to use it in the chatroom. Oddly enough it is allowed in the over 18s but not on the open forum. Is the chatroom open to all ages?
Depends who and how it it used.
Use it to a policeman or a judge and you have got problems.
What is to stop children entering the chatrooms....nothing.
If I claim to be old fashioned I am dubbed as an old fool by the clown prince/ss.
Lets ask the people in the know what is right and what is wrong?

Royboy39 29-03-2008 21:56
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 554130)
Not sure if you're referring to me, but my post was directed at the legal aspects of the chat room since people were enquiring. I didn't approve or disapprove of anything said. I am of the younger generation, and I don't swear in either the chat room or the forum.
No need to defend yourself if you are not guilty...in this case

garinda 29-03-2008 22:33
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Who was it that said all publicity is good publicity?

The chatroom appears to be packed to the rafters once again.

Being of a delicate constitution I'm a little too afraid to enter, for fear of having to witness baudy language, spicey humour, and I certainly don't want to be groomed, for fear my valet will think his job is at risk.:D

Reidy 29-03-2008 22:34
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Still none of this thread answers my question in post one does it?? No. I think the things that have arisen from my first post are somehing the people involved need to sort out between themselves, I at this point am regreting starting this thread, but yet again im not as i aked a very important question which still no one can answer very clearly.

garinda 29-03-2008 22:36
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554292)
Still none of this thread answers my question in post one does it?? No. I think the things that have arisen from my first post are somehing the people involved need to sort out between themselves, I at this point am regreting starting this thread, but yet again im not as i aked a very important question which still no one can answer very clearly.
I think Roy, the owner of this website, answered your question perfectly clearly.

Reidy 29-03-2008 22:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 554297)
I think Roy, the owner of this website, answered your question perfectly clearly.

He told me his opinion not what the law says!!!

So no it didnt answer my question did it, before you reply again look at post number one instead of jumping the gun!:D

jackyalex 29-03-2008 22:42
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554302)
He told me his opinion not what the law says!!!

So no it didnt answer my question did it, before you reply again look at post number one instead of jumping the gun!:D
There is the whole internet to look at that should answer your question, rather than just assuming we can

Royboy39 29-03-2008 22:43
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 554297)
I think Roy, the owner of this website, answered your question perfectly clearly.
That might......only might get you a few pints or brownie points at the next meet........Would you condone the filthy language that was used on the chatroom?

emamum 29-03-2008 22:45
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554306)
That might......only might get you a few pints or brownie points at the next meet........Would you condone the filthy language that was used on the chatroom?
i have asked you on here and i have pm'd you..... what are you talking about!!!! nobody else seems to know!!!

garinda 29-03-2008 22:46
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554302)
He told me his opinion not what the law says!!!

So no it didnt answer my question did it, before you reply again look at post number one instead of jumping the gun!:D

Others in this thread have posted about the law regarding chatrooms, in so much as it appears to be fairly muddled.

What's your big fascination with it, and why don't you post what you actually think the problem is?

Personally if I have a query re: the rules of this forum, a pm to one of the mods usually illicits a swift and satisfactory answer, and thus prevents me having to start a thread which creates a whole load of problems and upset, a bit like trolls do.

As far as Roy is concerned on this forum, he is the law.;)

Royboy39 29-03-2008 22:46
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554307)
i have asked you on here and i have pm'd you..... nobody has any idea what you are talking about!!!!
I think Lindsey might know....ask her.

andrewb 29-03-2008 22:46
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554302)
He told me his opinion not what the law says!!!
I've told you in the last few pages...

lindsay ormerod 29-03-2008 22:47
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Roy, I didn't use any filthy language in the chat room , if you want to complain about individuals do so by using the report facilty, don't tar me with the same brush, I am getting quite enough flak already !

Reidy 29-03-2008 22:48
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 554304)
There is the whole internet to look at that should answer your question, rather than just assuming we can
Did you not read it either??? Obviousley not, Forgive me for sounding rude here but no one is answering the question, just disgussing weather or not there is a divide, who caused it, who thinks its right, who thinks its wrong and its pathetic!!!!

I asked "WHATS THE LAW ON UNMODERATED CHAT" and can an owner or moderator answer this. As this is a forum run by them i asked them, where did i ask everyone to jum on the "Band Wagon" so to speak??

Let me see.......................... I didnt!!!!

This whole situation is a sham! Does no have anything else to do other than twist what others say?? SAD!:(


SO Jackeyalex i didnt ask you to tell me where to look? Did I?

Stop jumping on the band wagon and i will await a response from one of those who were asked!

garinda 29-03-2008 22:49
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 554310)
I've told you in the last few pages...
You did.

Perhaps someone needs to go to Specsavers.

http://www.poppinpuppets.com/troll%20glasses%20sm.jpg

Gayle 29-03-2008 22:52
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554313)


Stop jumping on the band wagon and i will await a response from one of those who were asked!
Perhaps, if you had wanted an answer from a specific person you should have asked that specific person via a pm. However, as you asked it as a thread then everyone is entitled to input into the thread.

I'll get off the band wagon now.;)

garinda 29-03-2008 22:53
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554313)

I asked "WHATS THE LAW ON UNMODERATED CHAT" and can an owner or moderator answer this. As this is a forum run by them i asked them
Err...no you didn't, you started a thread.

As stated earlier, if I, or anyone else, has a query as to the running of this site, they pm the very helpful mods.

Royboy39 29-03-2008 22:54
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 554312)
Roy, I didn't use any filthy language in the chat room , if you want to complain about individuals do so by using the report facilty, don't tar me with the same brush, I am getting quite enough flak already !
Lindsey...please ...it wasn't you...you were on the receiving end of this nonsense

jackyalex 29-03-2008 22:55
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554313)
Did you not read it either??? Obviousley not, Forgive me for sounding rude here but no one is answering the question, just disgussing weather or not there is a divide, who caused it, who thinks its right, who thinks its wrong and its pathetic!!!!

I asked "WHATS THE LAW ON UNMODERATED CHAT" and can an owner or moderator answer this. As this is a forum run by them i asked them, where did i ask everyone to jum on the "Band Wagon" so to speak??

Let me see.......................... I didnt!!!!

This whole situation is a sham! Does no have anything else to do other than twist what others say?? SAD!:(


SO Jackeyalex i didnt ask you to tell me where to look? Did I?

Stop jumping on the band wagon and i will await a response from one of those who were asked!
I was only saying, what band wagon have i jumped on? have you looked through the thread ...NO as you will see i have not responded to any of your thread. and as for asking what the law is, rather than make a thread that has gone out of control and caused arguments you could have just pm'd one or all of the moderators, dont open up a thread if you dont want members to answer

emamum 29-03-2008 22:56
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554319)
Lindsey...please ...it wasn't you...you were on the receiving end of this nonsense

Am i just being ignored tonight Royboy?

Reidy 29-03-2008 22:59
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackyalex (Post 554321)
I was only saying, what band wagon have i jumped on? have you looked through the thread ...NO as you will see i have not responded to any of your thread. and as for asking what the law is, rather than make a thread that has gone out of control and caused arguments you could have just pm'd one or all of the moderators, dont open up a thread if you dont want members to answer
What was that???
You have jumped on the band wagon cause you sat there watched an argument brew and then look you just jumped in!!! Had your 2ps worth then what???? Didnt answer the question!!!!

As for dont open a thread if i dont want members to answer? was post 1 addressed to them? NO! Was it aimed at them? NO

But as it was posted there i did not expect a full blown rift throughout Accyweb did i? NO.

So take ur 3p change from the 5p you gave and go thread wander else where!!!

Royboy39 29-03-2008 22:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554323)
Am i just being ignored tonight Royboy?
I think you might be........what bothers you?

emamum 29-03-2008 23:00
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554328)
I think you might be........what bothers you?
just you atm tbh

you could at least back up what you are saying......

lindsay ormerod 29-03-2008 23:02
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Thanks for clearing that up.

Royboy39 29-03-2008 23:03
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554332)
you could at least back up what you are saying......
in what context?

emamum 29-03-2008 23:04
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
what exactly was so disgusting and wrong in chat last night?
or did you just want to join in the argument?

Reidy 29-03-2008 23:05
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554336)
in what context?

In it all, if you going to throw the accusations around please at least say who it is ur accusing and not play the silly mind games, Clear up what
you mean and who its aimed at.

Thankyou

garinda 29-03-2008 23:07
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554327)

As for dont open a thread if i dont want members to answer? was post 1 addressed to them? NO! Was it aimed at them? NO

But as it was posted there i did not expect a full blown rift throughout Accyweb did i? NO.

So take ur 3p change from the 5p you gave and go thread wander else where!!!
If you really didn't haven't the common sense to ask your question via pm'ing a moderator, perhaps your thread would have been better placed to illicit an answer, in the 'Feedback, Suggestions, and Help' section of the forum, rather than 'General Chat', which quite clearly states is for 'common sense and serious discusions'. Something this thread clearly isn't.

Reidy 29-03-2008 23:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 554343)
perhaps your thread would have been better placed to illicit an answer, in the 'Feedback, Suggestions, and Help' section of the forum, rather than 'General Chat', which quite clearly states is for 'common sense and serious discusions'. Something this thread clearly isn't.
So why do you keep posting on it then???? If u cant answer the question STOP!

andrewb 29-03-2008 23:12
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The questions been answered, the question of law has also been answered. Is it not going to be accepted unless a moderator says it? Other people can know the law too you know!

garinda 29-03-2008 23:13
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554346)
So why do you keep posting on it then???? If u cant answer the question STOP!

I was just pointing out that as such, your question was answered way back in the thread by Cyfr, and giving advice to anyone else who may have a question regarding this forum, and the most effective way of having a questioned answered.

For someone who was complaining of bullys the other night, typing in capitals is apparently quite rude on internet forums, it's considered SHOUTING!;)

Reidy 29-03-2008 23:14
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 554351)
The questions been answered, the question of law has also been answered. Is it not going to be accepted unless a moderator says it? Other people can know the law too you know!
Im not saying you dont but i think you missing the point, have you researched it? where did your information come from? And can it be backed up?

Royboy39 29-03-2008 23:22
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554339)
what exactly was so disgusting and wrong in chat last night?
or did you just want to join in the argument?
I thiink that this may be the end of this thread if you joined or entered the chatroom and saw what was going on I think for the one's who are to blame for the foul language and retoric that was aimed at non responsive members was out of order.

emamum 29-03-2008 23:23
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554358)
I thiink that this may be the end of this thread if you joined or entered the chatroom and saw what was going on I think for the one's who are to blame for the foul language and retoric that was aimed at non responsive members was out of order.
that made loads of sense

Reidy 29-03-2008 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554358)
I thiink that this may be the end of this thread if you joined or entered the chatroom and saw what was going on I think for the one's who are to blame for the foul language and retoric that was aimed at non responsive members was out of order.
I think you have nothing to back it up do you? Hence the backing off!!!

Well crawl back into the fetal position whimper and move on!

Royboy39 29-03-2008 23:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554361)
I think you have nothing to back it up do you? Hence the backing off!!!

Well crawl back into the fetal position whimper and move on!
How dare you wear a rovers shirt?
Backing what up?

emamum 29-03-2008 23:30
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554362)
How dare you wear a rovers shirt?
Backing what up?
your accusations!!!

andrewb 29-03-2008 23:32
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reidy (Post 554355)
Im not saying you dont but i think you missing the point, have you researched it? where did your information come from? And can it be backed up?

Is it not blatantly obvious? The laws cover the same ground no matter if you say them on a message board, a chat room, a phone call, writing, or in person. The law is the law.

There are no 'special' laws for chat rooms. If you incite racial hatred in person you're breaking the law, if you do it in a chat room you're breaking the law. It's not against the law to swear with a kid near you in person, even if it is distasteful. Guess what? It's not against the law to do it in a chat room either.

It's also not against the law to do it in this forum, it is however against the forum rules, so I'd advise against it.

Roy's stated the chat rules, and I'm sure you can use your judgement to know whats within the law. Stay away from plotting terrorism and I'm sure you won't go much wrong.

BERNADETTE 29-03-2008 23:34
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For goodness sake why not just let it rest? The way this is going there will be no chat room. Roy has explained how things stand, if you don't like it leave!!!

Royboy39 29-03-2008 23:37
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 554364)
your accusations!!!
I have accused no one...or named anyone..We come to the situation 'If the cap fits wear it'.

If it's mind games..........go for it

Reidy 29-03-2008 23:47
Re: Un Moderated CHAT
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 554362)
How dare you wear a rovers shirt?
Backing what up?
Now now put your dummy back in.

If i wear a rovers shirt thats my choice, not yours as when i wear my stanley one! So whats that got anything to do with it? NOTHING

You make wild accusations then crawl off and whimper! So if the cap fits wear it yourself!


CYFR: Thanks your advice has been noted, you seem to be the only person that has added some kind of decent response to my question! Thankyou.

Mick 30-03-2008 00:17
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