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garinda 15-08-2008 18:16

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Speaking exclusively to the Observer, he said: "When I first arrived at the centre I had no money so I borrowed £20 from an older resident.


"A couple of days later he called me into his room. He switched on a DVD and told me I could pay off my debt.


"I was absolutely horrified and got out of the room as quickly as I could. I am ashamed I have to live in the same place as convicted sex offenders. I don’t want people to tar me with the same brush.




I think the moral of the story is not to borrow money from a convicted sex offender in the first place.

garinda 15-08-2008 18:17

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...or don't commit 'serious violent offences' in the first place.

pussycat 15-08-2008 23:12

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Originally Posted by lancscat (Post 572077)
has anyone seen the telegraph about the bail hostels for accrington and blackburn? hope they aint putting it near my house:eek:

the police should let people know who is in these places, for the saftey of our children, how are we to protect our kids if were not told , who lives in these bail hostels

accyman 16-08-2008 02:07

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as long as we have idiots who think its acceptable for pedophiles to live near children just because they have to live somwhere children will remain at greater risk from them

maybe if these idiots put their money where their mouth is and let them live next to their kids they would think different after uncle fester had played with their kids but then again they do have to live somewhere just not next to them :rolleyes:

steeljack 16-08-2008 02:36

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I think with child molesters the public are stuck in a catch 22 position , 95% of offenses are commited by persons close to the victim (family member/family friend) so the idea of removing them from there home area seems sensible, on the other hand if I was a parent of a young child no way would I want one of these guys living in my area.

the below from the California State Gov. website ... and explains how the State is trying to control where convicted molesters can reside once let out of prison ....in effect what it does is move the molesters from urban areas into the suburbs and remote areas here there is less effective Policing ,

In California, legislation that went into effect in 2006 (Chapter 463, Statutes of 2005) prohibits any offender on parole convicted of a certain sex offense involving a victim of 14 to 15 years of age from residing within quarter mile of any K-12 grade school. Any offender on parole convicted of a child-related sex offense, or whose victim was a dependent person, and is designated as high-risk, is prohibited from residing within a half mile of any K-12 grade school. Other legislation that went into effect in 2006 (Chapter 486, Statutes of 2005) prohibits a conditionally released sex offender from the Department of Mental Health with a history of child molestation, or an offender classified as a sexually violent predator (SVP), from living within a quarter mile of any K-12 school. New legislative and ballot initiative efforts are underway to restrict any registered sex offender from residing within 2,000 feet (about 2/5 of a mile) of any school, daycare facility, or place where children gather.

accyman 16-08-2008 02:54

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the good thing about america is that it has a lot of desert , im surprised they dont stick them there, mind you i bet a few already are residing there but 6ft under ;)

jaysay 16-08-2008 09:29

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Could you imagine the uproar, if it was decided to site one of these hostels in say Viginia Water, or Kingstone on Thames, or sunny Lyme Regis even, now that would be fun

Loz 16-08-2008 09:31

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Good point Jay!
Dump all the scum in Accy no-one will bother!
Why do we always get the short end of the stick?

garinda 16-08-2008 09:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 619535)
Could you imagine the uproar, if it was decided to site one of these hostels in say... Kingstone on Thames

There's one in equally posh Richmond on Thames, as well as lots of other places in the southeast, and throughout the rest of the country;)


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accyman 16-08-2008 11:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 619540)
There's one in equally posh Richmond on Thames, as well as lots of other places in the southeast, and throughout the rest of the country;)


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but their occupants wipe their feet before breaking and entering into your home and tidy up after themselves :)

jaysay 16-08-2008 14:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 619540)
There's one in equally posh Richmond on Thames, as well as lots of other places in the southeast, and throughout the rest of the country;)


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Might well be Rindi, but you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be near, the well to do set, and they won't be peados neither:rolleyes:

garinda 16-08-2008 15:42

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 619624)
Might well be Rindi, but you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be near, the well to do set, and they won't be peados neither:rolleyes:

Richmond is right next door to Kingston, and is an even posher neighbourhood.

There's also one in Battersea, where a one bedroomed flat will cost you £500,000.

As for Lymme Regis, besides Mrs. Pake's seafood stall and the Cob, there's not a lot else there, though there is apparently one in the Cornish seaside resort of Cambourne.

It's quite obvious that they are spread throughout the country.

jaysay 16-08-2008 15:45

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 619642)
Richmond is right next door to Kingston, and is an even posher neighbourhood.

There's also one in Battersea, where a one bedroomed flat will cost you £500,000.

As for Lymme Regis, besides Mrs. Pake's seafood stall and the Cob, there's not a lot else there, though there is apparently one in the Cornish seaside resort of Cambourne.

It's quite obvious that they are spread throughout the country.

Must be there's an influx of white collar criminals down there Rindi:D

garinda 16-08-2008 15:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 619643)
Must be there's an influx of white collar criminals down there Rindi:D

No, it's the same sort of scum you get in all of them.

I think it was Panorama that exposed the one in Richmond on Thames as having sex offenders, and who weren't properly supervised, and were filmed talking to children.

If there was the slightest risk to the public I'd never have let them out of jail in the first place.

The point is they are everywhere, even Royal Leamington Spa, and genteel Boscombe. Sadly lots of people live near them.

Lilly 16-08-2008 21:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 619655)
Sadly lots of people live near them.

You're right.

They reckon you're never more than a few feet away from a rat....now it seems we can apply the same to sex offenders.

LouiseT 03-10-2009 07:28

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 619142)
Bail hostels area a cheap alternative to new prisons.

I wonder how many bail hostels there are in Surrey, Hampshire, and other southern counties? You can find out at http://freedom.is/open.php but it doesn’t seem to list the 150 ClearSprings hostels.

There is no money in the kitty to build and staff new prisons so private companies like ClearSprings are formed and they operate to make a profit from our taxes.

We all know why there is no money in the kitty so there is no need to go into that now, but did you know that allegedly the government owes £555 billion and much of the ‘family silver’ has gone?

If this country were a PLC the receivers would have been in long ago.


Hi there

Actually, there are a few ClearSprings hostels in the Home Counties - I live next door to one! You're right to say that private companies are making a lot of money out of housing problem people. The Chairman of ClearSprings is doing very nicely, thank you; he declared a salary of £637,000 last year on the back of the contract to house offenders/defendants and others to house asylum seekers. A couple of other directors aren't doing so badly, either. Meanwhile those of us who are stuck with ClearSprings are not only having our lives horribly disrupted but are taking the financial rap for things, since we are unable to sell our houses. It takes a special sort of person to make money out of this sort of misery, but Mr Graham King, the ClearSprings Chairman, obviously has all the qualities which are necessary. Still, there's no point in blaming Mr King and his posse of Essex spivs too much. The real culprits are based in an ivory tower at the MoJ and have no interest at all in the s*** they drop on ordinary families who are trying to survive a major recession. Ironically most of the ClearSprings hostels are going into solidly Labour-voting areas, because they are the ones with cheap rents. So much for socialism.

I would like to ban the phrase 'they have to go somewhere'. We all have to go somewhere; that is not in question. The question is, how do we best deal with the most troublesome members of society so that they do the least harm to the rest of us? I don't think shoving them into little terraced houses with no supervision or guidance is the way forward. It's not doing offenders any good, and it's sure as hell not doing the neighbours any good either.


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