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has anyone seen the telegraph about the bail hostels for accrington and blackburn? hope they aint putting it near my house:eek:

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Ive not seen it, have they not hinted on where they are plannign to put them?

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No haven't seen it but echo your thoughts!
Have you any more info?

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doesnt say where they are yet

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aint seen it, but not suprised, after watching Panorama tonight, where there putting Murderers n Armed Robbers in Open Prisons so they can walk out n continue there careers, so a bail hostels nowt.:D unless its near our house.;)

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Pity this was not disclosed before the local elections.......they would have faced a bigger thrashing.

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Just dump more no hopers on us without a by your leave. We already have bail hostels in Accrington.

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SO WE DONT NEED ANYMORE THEN!!!!!!!!!!! PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE

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Yes I agree with you but you can bet they will still put them here:mad:

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were so u suggest?? top of the coppice? they have to go somewhere....

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Sure he must know about it he works for that department:eek:

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Who would face a bigger thrashing? The people of East Lancashire? This is typical of all parties, dump the trash with the rest of the trash, get off your high horse and realise the rest of the country consider us to be a place to dump such rubbish, we all, from every political view point need to say we don't want this crap!

The only way we could do this is to forget our political views and consider 'our county', it's somewhere we could be proud of, if we worked together to prevent this type of dumping ground.

Let's all demand a better Lancashire!

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Siberia springs to mind..........cant suggest Australia that's been done and they finished up wearing silly hats with corks on them :D

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whats the difference between a bail hostel and the criminals and druggies we have roaming the streets anyway? at least there will be some sort of monitering of the ones in the hostel.

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But why Accrington??:confused:

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Been bail hostel in Accy for years

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You are joking aren't you? There was a programme on telly a while back and pervs who were meant to be monitored were just going about where they wanted:mad:

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nothing at all to do with local elections, as they aint even been consulted,

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agree how about on your street.:rolleyes:

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OK stand in the next election as a 'Demand for better Lancashire' candidate.
Half of the electorate would not understand what you are saying.
Never been on a high horse which you seem to put yourself on.
The government took a hiding in the local elections and everyone is aware of that, OK I agree we don't want this crap but how can I trust you as a potential ally to prevent this happening if you try to ridicule (which seems to be the morm) someone who defends Lancashire and will always do so no matter what crass comments are forthcoming from a nobody who thinks he's funny.

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i live up woodnook..... whats the difference?

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Are you being serious? My god am sure I don't want paedophiles and the like around my grandchildren:mad:

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im not saying i agree with it... i am saying that they have to go somewhere and the people in the hostel will be checked up on.. thats much better than the ones that roam the street!

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i dont want my kids near these people either,put them in a field with a pack of wolves

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what do you think happens to paedophiles when they leave the hostels?
the council rehomes them...
every single council estate will have at least one!
i live on a council estate with my son.... so before anyone asks, no i dont agree with that either!

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Thay are not checked up on properly!!!

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and the ones that arent in the hostels arent checked up on at all!

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So we should just sit back and let them dump anybody they want round us? We have enough problems as it is why should we be saddled with more?:confused:

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i dont agree neither, but then i don't hold the view -(they have to go somewhere) WHY?

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So, you have a grudge? I didn't think any of this was funny but you obviously think I only look for humour in things? well that can't be all bad can it you old misery?
Meanwhile you used this to express your political feelings rather than make a useful comment, because of my reply you also attempt to turn that political, well, strange as it may seem I look to myself and my neighbours before I get political, and look down on all that put party and political bias before the good of his fellow man, which put's you a long way down the list, in fact lower than the souls they want to put into Bail Hostels anywhere near me!

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ok.... what should be done with them? the prisons are over crowded and the only other choice is to let them straight out onto the streets.

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Pathetic waffle

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Well done, most intelligent post you've ever made, and I agree with you entirely.
:D

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why are prisons overcrowded? cos there aint enough of em. its a much bigger issue really than Bail Hostels n one NO political party will get to grips with.

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Put them in another town, we already have one bail hostel in Accrington

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so would you agree to a prison instead?

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be careful mate, yer talking sense.:D

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Wonder what he is on:p

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And so you should...lets get back on topic.
Some if not all posters on this website are serious in their convictions.
There is plenty of room in the wastelands of Scotland or the Valleys of Wales to accomodate these waisters....plenty of sheep for company etc..etc..etc.
and now I'm being or trying to be funny to a subject which is not funny.
What do we do with them?.........London is full....cull?....out of the question......Siberia...........I wish.
The amount of money the Government are extracting from the British public in taxes direct and indirect should be sufficient to provide secure housing for these people.
There must be some way, and I am not sure, and it seems nor are the government, of addressing this problem.
As old as I am (which seems to be a reference point for the smart arses to pick up on) I have two Grandchildren who live in Lancashire and would hate to have them subjected to, or threatened by the presence of these
preditors or criminals in their everyday life.

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Ok I believe you millions wouldn't;)

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Oh no, ya can't be too hard on the poor criminals, they might actually think they done somet wrong:rolleyes:

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thats the no1 problem with society today, too many focus on the wrongdoers n no buggar focuses on the victims or the public.

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Well I shouldn't really comment after the situation I was put in, in January, I'd say nuke em all:D lol


Obviously not really;)

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Perhaps being part of the E.U. we could let you have them?

You feeling smug in your little Spanish Ghetto, away from the woes of us ordinary folk, I have my own Grand childer, I want them to grow up and be happy here, not have to pretend they will have a better life coming to them somewhere else once they've fleeced their neighbours, I'll stay and fight for their future which must be better off because you aren't in it!

(Please, Please, prove me wrong instead of advising from miles away come back and fight for you own children's, children!).

:rolleyes:

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yes

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Oh my goodness so you better than any of us can relate to it:mad:

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Quite lucky compared to some people really, I never got hurt, not physically anyway. The knife pointed in my side is just always in my mind

Still can't work on my own

But it won't always be like that, I've come on loads since it happened

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They never caught them, but if they had, what would be the point

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good lass, glad yer comin to terms a bit.;)

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Thanks:)

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Scoring brownie point is old hat.
My grandchildren have the opportunity to visit whenever they wish and so have my children who have both made a life for themselves and a good living in a very hostile environment.
I ran a completely legitimate business in the UK and have retired from that business without owing a penny.
I would not hesitate to advise my close family to think twice about the advantages of living in a country where you are treated fairly and accepted as part of the framework.
I will advise from miles away because my experiences in the county of my birth are not going to get any better with nerds at the helm, be it Labour or Conservative.

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Glad you are getting there was off-line when it happened and if I remember rightly your bosses haven't been much help. Good luck!!

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The blogs are still there, i was reading them the other day... i have been in a simular situation only i wasnt being robbed and i can imagine how scary it must have been and how hard it is to get over, i hope you are getting there tho.

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That is where I read about it now that you have reminded me, another reason not to be stuck with another bail hostel In My Humble Opinion:mad:

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Thanks everyone, I do real well now, well I work with someone else
It's only when I see someone similar or *dodgy* looking that I get worried and have my hand on the panic button

(Sorry I can't think of a better word than dodgy, but I know what I mean

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accylass.....pm me if you want to talk, i would rather not talk about what happened to me in public.

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What the hell is that all about? Links please?

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check accylass' blog.......

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There are no links it was just something Accylass said in her Blog

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Thanks, I definitely will yeah

He's waiting for me to go to bed tho so best not tonight:D

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dont know if this link will work but here goes....

Accrington Web - AccyLass27

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Oh well thats me proved wrong again:o

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When rehousing this is closely monitored by police and housing and selective about where the rehousing can be.

Also I think you will find that there are bail hostels in most towns

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i was making a point, that just because we say no to a bail hostel doesnt mean that there are not paedophiles near our children.

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What chance do we stand? Having just watched the Panarama program makes you wonder just what the hell is going on, if they treat hardened criminals like this how the hell can they monitor these bail hostels. Only this weeknd Salford M.P. Hazel Blears was say that the Government was going to listen to the people, I know, I know, we've heard it all before, but now we can put this to the test, will the govenment listen. Maybe if Greg is monitoring this thread he can have an input, and please don't get me wrong I'm saying this to be bipartsan and having a pop at Greg far from it. On matters such as this Greg is our representative and the best person placed to put our point forward, irrespective of any political stance of any one individual. Like most people, I have a concern about the sitting o these hostels, but the trouble is, so do the likes of you and me in every town and city in the country, and its not a question which will be easily solved:(

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They could send them to Chernobyl, the town is already built plenty of housing, no one else in the immediate area its secure and patrolled what more do you need.

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Or India, If its good enough for our Call centre jobs its good enough for prison IMHO.

Pay the indian goverment probably 1/4 of what it costs to keep them here, conditions should be as per the indians get i.e. not somewhere you want to go back as opposed to somewhere you want to check in for a few days R&R.

As others said, far too much consideration for 'their' rights and not enough for teh decent people's

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I'm a little confused by the papers report of housing people who were out earlier than the length of their sentences.

I understood Bail houses were just that, to house people who had not been charged or proven guilty in their crime, and that they have no particular permanent abode so at least easy to find and monitor.

They, apparantely, only put in 'offenders' who would not pose a threat to the public.

Listened to a lady interviewed who had lived across from one for years, and the close residents were given a contact number if any disturbances, etc., and she said they were down like a shot to sort out matters and did. Better service seemingly than if you or I have a troublesome neighbour.

I expect lots of people have lived next door to bailed people who have a house to go back to, and maybe for worse offences.

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accrington probation housed a pedophile next door to me without consulting me at all

i lived on a street that ran scouts , cubs etc and on teh next street was a junior school

not only that i have 2 children of my own and because i wasnt informed what filthy bastard creature had been housed next door to me i invited my new neighbour in for coffee and he came round quite often and sat with my children

we only found out what he was because my then partner said he looked familiar and it turned out that he was from darwen where she is from and after a bit of investigative work of our own we found teh story on teh telegraph archives and it turned out he had been working for the council as a support officer for children and had used his postion to abuse

he actualy ran away before while supposedly under supervisoin and was fined £50 when he was eventualy located

they should be killed period , we waste too much money trying to control them and death is much cheaper

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what about the big house at the top of park road accy.

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All the time I worked at the social that was a lodging house full of men with 'dubious pasts' - it was privately owned - don't know whether it is the same now

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Some good news for a change, the bail hostel is not going to be opened in Accrington

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they already have one in Accy anyway

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One that we know about

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thats true, the one up Lydia street, its been there for donkeys years

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According to the Observer they are now housing child sex offenders at Lydia Street!!! Apparently one of them has been watching child porn in his room and has been reported and had his DVD player confiscated. It really gets me angry when they are putting these perverts in a hostel near kids and that parents aren't warned!!! They said when they opened the hostel that sex offendes wouldn't be housed there:mad:

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The trouble is that they've got to go somewhere but nobody wants them near their house. If people were told that sex offenders were living at certain addresses there would be attacks and vigilante action.

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Yes they need to go somewhere, but preferable away from parks and schools.

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But why should kids be put at risk?? There was a lot of opposition to this hostel and it was promised that sex offenders would not be placed there!!

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Yes, I agree. They shouldn't have temptation on their doorstep.

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perferably on an Island in the middle of the Atlantic

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Bail hostels area a cheap alternative to new prisons.

I wonder how many bail hostels there are in Surrey, Hampshire, and other southern counties? You can find out at http://freedom.is/open.php but it doesn’t seem to list the 150 ClearSprings hostels.

There is no money in the kitty to build and staff new prisons so private companies like ClearSprings are formed and they operate to make a profit from our taxes.

We all know why there is no money in the kitty so there is no need to go into that now, but did you know that allegedly the government owes £555 billion and much of the ‘family silver’ has gone?

If this country were a PLC the receivers would have been in long ago.

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It's grown somewhat since that estimate - it's currently over £645 billion and rising at a frightening rate, as we speak.

UK debt clock

Let's face it - UK Ltd is bankrupt!

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Wow! That clock sure does move.

It seems to be increasing by £1,000 PER SECOND.

Whichever political party or coalition of takes over from Brown and Co it will be picking up a poisoned chalice.

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Yes, it does shift somewhat. To be honest, I wish I hadn't discovered it now. Everytime I look at it, it depresses me!

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Thats a load of rubbish how do they know we are in that much debt anyone can just make a clock like that and post it on the web

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If you look at most sources, they give roughly the same figures, so I'd say it was fairly accurate. Here's another one that shows the debt was £512.4 billion back in January, which fits in fairly well with what the "debt clock" shows:

UK National Debt — Economics Blog

but the worrying thing is that the government aren't giving us the full picture - if you add public sector pension liabilities, PFI's etc, it's over £1000 billion! :eek:

Sorry for thread wander. :o

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So much for the Iron Chancellor, this debt hasn't sprung up over the last 12 months, Godies fingerprints are all over this too

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To be accurate the report in the Observer said the man had been watching 'banned pornography'. Meaning, I think, that the viewing of all pornography is banned.

The delicate flower who took his story to the Observer, and who was apparently propositioned by the viewer of the pornography, had been jailed for 19 months for a 'serious violent offence'.

Quite frankly I wouldn't want either of them living near me.

http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk/...ffender_hostel

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'That' reporter again Garinda !!