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jaysay 15-08-2008 10:03

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 619040)
Yes they need to go somewhere, but preferable away from parks and schools.

perferably on an Island in the middle of the Atlantic

jambutty 15-08-2008 11:49

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Bail hostels area a cheap alternative to new prisons.

I wonder how many bail hostels there are in Surrey, Hampshire, and other southern counties? You can find out at http://freedom.is/open.php but it doesn’t seem to list the 150 ClearSprings hostels.

There is no money in the kitty to build and staff new prisons so private companies like ClearSprings are formed and they operate to make a profit from our taxes.

We all know why there is no money in the kitty so there is no need to go into that now, but did you know that allegedly the government owes £555 billion and much of the ‘family silver’ has gone?

If this country were a PLC the receivers would have been in long ago.

Wynonie Harris 15-08-2008 12:08

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 619142)
We all know why there is no money in the kitty so there is no need to go into that now, but did you know that allegedly the government owes £555 billion and much of the ‘family silver’ has gone?

If this country were a PLC the receivers would have been in long ago.

It's grown somewhat since that estimate - it's currently over £645 billion and rising at a frightening rate, as we speak.

UK debt clock

Let's face it - UK Ltd is bankrupt!

jambutty 15-08-2008 12:23

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Wow! That clock sure does move.

It seems to be increasing by £1,000 PER SECOND.

Whichever political party or coalition of takes over from Brown and Co it will be picking up a poisoned chalice.

Wynonie Harris 15-08-2008 12:41

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Yes, it does shift somewhat. To be honest, I wish I hadn't discovered it now. Everytime I look at it, it depresses me!

MCR ADIM 15-08-2008 13:07

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Thats a load of rubbish how do they know we are in that much debt anyone can just make a clock like that and post it on the web

Wynonie Harris 15-08-2008 14:07

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 619172)
Thats a load of rubbish how do they know we are in that much debt anyone can just make a clock like that and post it on the web

If you look at most sources, they give roughly the same figures, so I'd say it was fairly accurate. Here's another one that shows the debt was £512.4 billion back in January, which fits in fairly well with what the "debt clock" shows:

UK National Debt — Economics Blog

but the worrying thing is that the government aren't giving us the full picture - if you add public sector pension liabilities, PFI's etc, it's over £1000 billion! :eek:

Sorry for thread wander. :o

jaysay 15-08-2008 16:31

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 619189)
If you look at most sources, they give roughly the same figures, so I'd say it was fairly accurate. Here's another one that shows the debt was £512.4 billion back in January, which fits in fairly well with what the "debt clock" shows:

UK National Debt — Economics Blog

but the worrying thing is that the government aren't giving us the full picture - if you add public sector pension liabilities, PFI's etc, it's over £1000 billion! :eek:

Sorry for thread wander. :o

So much for the Iron Chancellor, this debt hasn't sprung up over the last 12 months, Godies fingerprints are all over this too

garinda 15-08-2008 17:58

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 619029)
According to the Observer they are now housing child sex offenders at Lydia Street!!! Apparently one of them has been watching child porn in his room and has been reported and had his DVD player confiscated. It really gets me angry when they are putting these perverts in a hostel near kids and that parents aren't warned!!! They said when they opened the hostel that sex offendes wouldn't be housed there:mad:

To be accurate the report in the Observer said the man had been watching 'banned pornography'. Meaning, I think, that the viewing of all pornography is banned.

The delicate flower who took his story to the Observer, and who was apparently propositioned by the viewer of the pornography, had been jailed for 19 months for a 'serious violent offence'.

Quite frankly I wouldn't want either of them living near me.

http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk/...ffender_hostel

katex 15-08-2008 18:05

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'That' reporter again Garinda !!

garinda 15-08-2008 18:16

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Speaking exclusively to the Observer, he said: "When I first arrived at the centre I had no money so I borrowed £20 from an older resident.


"A couple of days later he called me into his room. He switched on a DVD and told me I could pay off my debt.


"I was absolutely horrified and got out of the room as quickly as I could. I am ashamed I have to live in the same place as convicted sex offenders. I don’t want people to tar me with the same brush.




I think the moral of the story is not to borrow money from a convicted sex offender in the first place.

garinda 15-08-2008 18:17

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...or don't commit 'serious violent offences' in the first place.

pussycat 15-08-2008 23:12

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Originally Posted by lancscat (Post 572077)
has anyone seen the telegraph about the bail hostels for accrington and blackburn? hope they aint putting it near my house:eek:

the police should let people know who is in these places, for the saftey of our children, how are we to protect our kids if were not told , who lives in these bail hostels

accyman 16-08-2008 02:07

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as long as we have idiots who think its acceptable for pedophiles to live near children just because they have to live somwhere children will remain at greater risk from them

maybe if these idiots put their money where their mouth is and let them live next to their kids they would think different after uncle fester had played with their kids but then again they do have to live somewhere just not next to them :rolleyes:

steeljack 16-08-2008 02:36

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I think with child molesters the public are stuck in a catch 22 position , 95% of offenses are commited by persons close to the victim (family member/family friend) so the idea of removing them from there home area seems sensible, on the other hand if I was a parent of a young child no way would I want one of these guys living in my area.

the below from the California State Gov. website ... and explains how the State is trying to control where convicted molesters can reside once let out of prison ....in effect what it does is move the molesters from urban areas into the suburbs and remote areas here there is less effective Policing ,

In California, legislation that went into effect in 2006 (Chapter 463, Statutes of 2005) prohibits any offender on parole convicted of a certain sex offense involving a victim of 14 to 15 years of age from residing within quarter mile of any K-12 grade school. Any offender on parole convicted of a child-related sex offense, or whose victim was a dependent person, and is designated as high-risk, is prohibited from residing within a half mile of any K-12 grade school. Other legislation that went into effect in 2006 (Chapter 486, Statutes of 2005) prohibits a conditionally released sex offender from the Department of Mental Health with a history of child molestation, or an offender classified as a sexually violent predator (SVP), from living within a quarter mile of any K-12 school. New legislative and ballot initiative efforts are underway to restrict any registered sex offender from residing within 2,000 feet (about 2/5 of a mile) of any school, daycare facility, or place where children gather.


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