Banning of cluster bombs
 

Britain has signed up to an agreement to ban cluster bombs.. the agreement includes a promise never to use these bombs and ban stock piles in the UK (including USA stocks).
These bombs should certainly not be used in built up areas with civilians, but in a war can to be pretty useful as was shown in the Falklands when they were used to disable runways.
Having said they should not be used in in bombing towns and cities, is there any difference to cluster bombing and saturation bombing used against Germany in WW2?
Do you think these bombs should by banned unilaterally by Britain?

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we were talking about this at teatime after news, Russia, USA, @ China are not interested in banning em, so terrible though they are, its much ado about nothing to me.:rolleyes:

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just askin cos i don't know is Isreal part of this ban? cos they drop as many as any ******. another point certain kinds of cluster bombs (the safer for the innocent type:rolleyes:) are EXEMPT from this ban as i understand it. that if so aint worthy to me.

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I suppose that's what I'm trying to point out Cashy.. If, in a future war this country has promised ,and has no cluster bombs, but the enemy use them as they wish,, this could be a dis-advantage to us.

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yeh an just like the European Union these dummys will play by the rules whilst ememys bomb the crap out of us, after all its not cricket.:rolleyes:

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As you say Cash.. just not cricket.. not to worry, stiff upper lip and all that.. jolly good fun whato!!

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depends a lot who drops em, friendly fire can be a bit of a ******.:D

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I think you will find them tucked away somewhere in the hiils.
I dont think even GB is that daft........over the hills and far away?.......Need to know?

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if we cant use cluster bombs just nuke the crap out of them

problem soved ;)

seriously though why should we not use them if others are going to ?

without them it will be like taking a knife to a gun fight

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Ah! that brings back not to distant memories RoyBoy..hidden weapons.. just like Iraq had?

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Bin there...done it...worn that tee shirt....still got missiles from the second world war.....and still useable....checked once a week for stability....RAOC for a long time................Fact not make believe.

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they do , its just that they are so well hidden we havnt found them yet

people forget that sadam was world champion at hide the bomb for 5 years straight ?

just a pity for him he wasnt so good at hide and seek lol

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He he .. (were are you hiding them Roy.. in your underpants?):D

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Do you know what RAOC is?

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let's have a guess..Roy's Arse is On Coke??

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No I'm a gentle soul really........only the long term smart arses get agro from me...........normal folk with no chips have no need to worry.

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Thought you did'nt have a clue...........Try Google.

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Was it a municion factory near Chorley and another in Guide?

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RAOC Royal Army Ordnance Corps was the weapons holding Corps for the UK forces....now the Logistics Corps.
The Fuse as it was then called in Guide and Chorley made fuses for those weapons.
Without going into too much detail....weapons are stored in various locations in the UK under the control of the director of ordnance.

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Is that a yes then? my understanding was that different factorys made parts so that no one person could assemble the finnished article:gooddog:

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Got it in one..............They are assembled by someone with PV......dont ask me what that means..........I am still under the cloak.

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Maybe if you Google it you could find a way to assemble the whole missile !..unless Roy has the only plan for the finished article. :D

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Love smart arses............go for it pal......what do you know about life?
How old are you............have you ever held a weapon....have you ever been on the receiving end.....I can understand, you think you are drop dead raver in female company?
Get real you plank..........this is a serious thread.

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Yes it is a serious thread..I have held a weapon and used it..a drop dead raver? not me.. I know as much about life as you do,and thats as much as anyone knows blah blah.. very little.
Maybe I've judged you they same way you've judged me.
Get real?.. do you mean that your point of view is more accurate than mine?

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if giving up such a valuable weapon wasnt such a joke i would have thought this thread was serious :)

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I think I recognise the one in the middle.........Yep got it......Wooden top...Silly grin............Got to be Garinda? ;)

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Thanks Roy, never met Rindi, but at least I know what he looks like now, charming little fellow really:D

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He's pulling your leg. No way would Rindy have his photo taken with Royboy :D

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There is an old Lancashire expreession:

I would sooner S.M.A. on't Town Hall Steps. ;) :dancedog::dancedog:

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Wanted.

Large plant pot.

Best prices paid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/year...40/meldrew.jpg

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I'll bet Victor is more comfortable than you.
He's buried from the neck down.
Not dead from the neck up. ;):D

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Whether you drop one huge bomb or dozens of little ones (cluster bombs) it doesn’t really make any difference providing that they all explode on contact. And that is where the ‘civilian’ issue lies. UXB’s!

During the last war when munitions making wasn’t quite as good as it is today, many bombs were dropped by both sides that didn’t explode, not by design but by accident. These caused more consternation, concern and disruption than one that exploded. I mean that once the bomb has gone boom the situation is done and dusted. But with a UXB the locality has to be cleared and someone has to go and defuse it before it too goes boom. The disruption was enormous.

Then someone had the idea of deliberately dropping bombs with delayed fuses. It was reckoned that at one time that one bomb in five was a delayed bomb because of the effect that an UXB had.

Even with modern manufacturing procedures there is no absolute guarantee that all of the bombs or shells will explode on contact. There will always be some that fail but remain lethal to the unwary.

Unfortunately you cannot un-invent something so if three countries refuse to ban cluster bombs then we were fools to sign up to a treaty banning them.

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got it in one, aint just 3 countries either, its 3 major players.:rolleyes: