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andrewb 05-06-2008 15:48

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 587658)
Whether you heard it or misheard it, it should have not been repeated here

Theres no doubt I didn't mishear. I think its right, people should know what a public figure is saying about people. I'm sure the Labour supporters would be only too happy for me to keep my mouth shut, but I know the same wouldn't be done if it was a Conservative saying these things, and too right, I wouldn't support ANYBODY who said them, no matter which party.

MargaretR 05-06-2008 15:51

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Heaven help us if your political qualifications land you a job in the Foreign Office!!!!
Discretion and Diplomacy - you sadly lack

lancsdave 05-06-2008 15:53

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Politics and eavesdropping must be a close second to religion in creating wars !!

cashman 05-06-2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 587659)
Theres no doubt I didn't mishear. I think its right, people should know what a public figure is saying about people. I'm sure the Labour supporters would be only too happy for me to keep my mouth shut, but I know the same wouldn't be done if it was a Conservative saying these things, and too right, I wouldn't support ANYBODY who said them, no matter which party.

you pathetic little boy,its not about who supports who, its about discretion, n if GJ did say that, which i certainly did not hear, i would have been disgusted n said summat at the time, you obviously did not, so therefore that gives me grave doubt it was said.

andrewb 05-06-2008 16:04

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 587665)
you pathetic little boy,its not about who supports who, its about discretion, n if GJ did say that, which i certainly did not hear, i would have been disgusted n said summat at the time, you obviously did not, so therefore that gives me grave doubt it was said.

I regret not pulling him up on it at the time. I should have done because I fundamentally disagreed with what he was saying. It was said no doubt about it, I wouldn't post lies about something like this.

onlyme 05-06-2008 16:31

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 587651)
I was asked about Mr Farrer, if I knew him, if I had met him (I have). His attacks on Labour. I stated quite clearly that he had been a significant beneficiary of the welfare state (not an issue), but i would have thought he would have had a better understanding, more appreciation or the need for a welfare state. With his personal experience I can't understand why he opposes Labour, Labour policies when he is able to judge at close what a huge benefit it can be. There was never any personal references/insults and no-one on here seems to be able to verify or confirm what are pathetic comments.

Did you actually tell every person there that they were a beneficiary of the welfare state, or purely him?

To be honest with you, Mr Jones, if you had said that to me, even in your words, I would have an issue with it. Unless you said exactly the same every person, that is a personal comment/reference.

To me, the higlighted statement could quite easily be misconstrued as spin on 'dole dosser' or ' sponger' or other less than pleasant names

The again, maybe it is just me

onlyme 05-06-2008 16:32

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[quote=andrewb;587668]I regret not pulling him up on it at the time. I should have done because I fundamentally disagreed with what he was saying. It was said no doubt about it, I wouldn't post lies about something like this.[/quote

Whether its correct or not, you should have said something at the time, and it should never have been posted on a public post. If you had an issue with it, you could have pm'd the person in question, not waited for a time to do it publicly to cause the most trouble

jaysay 05-06-2008 16:40

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 587651)
Complete lie. You'll make anything up to defend you silly little causes.

FACT I didn't speak to you beyond your stupid comments regarding miners. FACT After that I walked away from you.
FACT Cashman was there. In fact it was he that pulled you up for talking rubbish. I barely spoke with you.

I was asked about Mr Farrer, if I knew him, if I had met him (I have). His attacks on Labour. I stated quite clearly that he had been a significant beneficiary of the welfare state (not an issue), but i would have thought he would have had a better understanding, more appreciation or the need for a welfare state. With his personal experience I can't understand why he opposes Labour, Labour policies when he is able to judge at close what a huge benefit it can be. There was never any personal references/insults and no-one on here seems to be able to verify or confirm what are pathetic comments.

So I benefit from the the wefare state, how would you know, only three people know my financial affairs Mr. Jones and your not one of them. I persons dealings with HBC is covere by the data protection act, the only way you are able to access my deatails legally is if you were dealing with a case on my behalf and I had given the necessary permission.:confused: For all you know I may have won the pools, or the lottery, or been left a fortune when my Father died, I would be very interested to hear your explanation, and whats more I have no reason to doubt Andrew. And how dare you even intimate that I am on depentant on the welfare state,it is none of your business what my personal finances are, and you as a councillor should know better.

Gayle 05-06-2008 17:13

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Never met met the guy, don't want to

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 587651)

I was asked about Mr Farrer, if I knew him, if I had met him (I have).


Curious?:eek:

jaysay 05-06-2008 17:42

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 587714)
Curious?:eek:

I thought that Gayle, seeing I can't bring the occasion to mind I can only think that some one is telling porkies, and it aint me. I have only seen Mr. Jones once tha was 2 years ago during the election campaign, I went out to get a taxi and he was about 20 yards down the road with Colette, and that was to near for me:rolleyes:

claytonender 05-06-2008 17:52

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Jaysay

I do know that you do not enjoy the best of health.

There are other ways of benefitting from the Welfare State, other than to be in receipt of a monetary benefit. But am I sure that you will agree that you have benefitted (and are still benefiting) from the services of the NHS-which is part of the Wefare Sate - over the years.
Without wishing to labour a point (no pun intended), the Welfare State was created by a Labour government -would you have had the same help from a Conservative government. I know we all pay for the NHS in our taxes but it is free at the point of use.

garinda 05-06-2008 18:31

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I really have nothing to say on this matter, except that political point scoring seems to have reached an all time low, and it disgusts me.:mad:

Gayle 05-06-2008 18:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 587775)
I really have nothing to say on this matter, except that political point scoring seems to have reached an all time low, and it disgusts me.:mad:


It's not even point 'scoring' because no one has done themselves any favours here - this is more like point 'losing'.

I want to state right here and now that I now consider myself to be of NO political party whatsoever and will plonk myself safe and sound back on the fence! I don't want to be associated with any of this!

onlyme 05-06-2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 587775)
I really have nothing to say on this matter, except that political point scoring seems to have reached an all time low, and it disgusts me.:mad:

Well said!

g jones 05-06-2008 21:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 587696)
So I benefit from the the wefare state, how would you know, only three people know my financial affairs Mr. Jones and your not one of them. I persons dealings with HBC is covere by the data protection act, the only way you are able to access my deatails legally is if you were dealing with a case on my behalf and I had given the necessary permission.:confused: For all you know I may have won the pools, or the lottery, or been left a fortune when my Father died, I would be very interested to hear your explanation, and whats more I have no reason to doubt Andrew. And how dare you even intimate that I am on depentant on the welfare state,it is none of your business what my personal finances are, and you as a councillor should know better.

You have at various times talked about your life. No problem. On here and openly to others. I am not here to talk about you or your circumstances personally. As a Labour person I support fundamentally the welfare state to help those in need. You get some who don't appreciate it and thrown it all back. I like to know why it is is no good or the Labour Party is no good in persuing a welfare state? It is not a trick question, nor is it personal.

And we have met, you just don't remember. You were right and I was wrong.


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