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Gayle 12-06-2008 14:08

Trouble in the Tory ranks
 
Shadow Home Secretary David Davies has resigned.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...318867,00.html

Seems like he's clashed with Cameron over the 42 day detention vote yesterday. Strangely he has said that he will fight the by-election that this has now caused.

That seems to me a waste of public money!

Royboy39 12-06-2008 14:20

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 591538)
Shadow Home Secretary David Davies has resigned.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...318867,00.html

Seems like he's clashed with Cameron over the 42 day detention vote yesterday. Strangely he has said that he will fight the by-election that this has now caused.

That seems to me a waste of public money!

Could it be possible that he wants to give New Labour yet another kick in the pants?:confused:

garinda 12-06-2008 14:23

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Bit of a Prima Donna-ish thing to do, and hardly shows party unity over this issue.

Even stranger that he should be taking this stand over supposed civil liberties, when as recently as 2003 he said he supported restoration of the death penalty.

Not much civil liberty for those who may be wrongly executed, if he gets his way.

Royboy39 12-06-2008 14:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591541)
Bit of a Prima Donna-ish thing to do, and hardly shows party unity over this issue.

Cheaper than a referendem and makes good television. :)

garinda 12-06-2008 14:33

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It will be very interesting to see if the electorate in Haltemprice and Howden support his soft stance on terrorism, and if he still has a 5,116 majority after the by-election.

Royboy39 12-06-2008 14:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591543)
It will be very interesting to see if the electorate in Haltemprice and Howden support his soft stance on terrorism, and if he still has a 5,116 majority after the by-election.

Dont think that will be the issue....I think he will up his majority.
Could it not be that Brown has pushed through another bill which is not wanted?

mani 12-06-2008 14:50

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yeah i think his majority will increase as many of the voters will agree with him

they'll see him as someone standin up for his rights and the rites of his constituents

Gayle 12-06-2008 14:56

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 591548)
yeah i think his majority will increase as many of the voters will agree with him

they'll see him as someone standin up for his rights and the rites of his constituents

I've just been told that in a poll 70% of the population wanted 42 days!

garinda 12-06-2008 14:59

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 591548)
yeah i think his majority will increase as many of the voters will agree with him

they'll see him as someone standin up for his rights and the rites of his constituents

Maybe.

Maybe all the Tory rank and file who've been phoning in radio stations, which have been discussing this matter, and who said they said they supported the increase in time that suspected terrorist could be held without charge, weren't from his constituency.:D

mani 12-06-2008 14:59

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and you would believe a poll?

;)

Royboy39 12-06-2008 15:00

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 591552)
I've just been told that in a poll 70% of the population wanted 42 days!

By whom?............Labour supporters?

garinda 12-06-2008 15:02

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How things have changed.

The Tories joining the Politically Correct Brigade, and the Bleeding Heart Liberals, in defence of the civil liberties of suspected terrorists.

The whole world's turning upside down.:D

Royboy39 12-06-2008 15:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591558)
How things have changed.

The Tories joining the Politically Correct Brigade, and the Bleeding Heart Liberals, in defence of the civil liberties of suspected terrorists.

The whole world's turning upside down.:D

I'ts called politics :p

Gayle 12-06-2008 15:06

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oll-shows.html

The good old Daily Telegraph - but I guess following recent threads we shouldn't trust anything they say. ;)

garinda 12-06-2008 15:11

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 591559)
I'ts called politics :p

It'd be interesting to know what old school Conservaties think. People like Mr and Mrs Norman Tebbit, who of course were sadly victims of a terrorist act.

I wonder if they are in favour of the hug-a-hoodie, cuddle a suspected suicide bomber, type of policies that are examplified by the Conservative party of today?


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