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jambutty 30-06-2008 14:08

Silent Night
 
Local authorities have had the power since 2003 to fine people a minimum of £100 who make a noise between 11:00pm and 6:00am (I think it was) and it was reported on the Jeremy Vine show this morning that Portsmouth is the first LA to invoke those powers.

The minimum noise level is 34 decibels or as the Jeremy Vine programme offered, the noise from a ticking clock. The noise level is not that at source but the level that is heard next door.

For some people a noise just on the edge of conscious hearing can be most annoying and could prevent someone from dropping off or even wake them. Especially the heavy boom, boom, boom of a modern pop record, which quietly pervades the whole area without actually being too loud. On the other hand much louder noises do not bother some people.

So here we have yet another step towards the 1984 society.

WillowTheWhisp 30-06-2008 16:15

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I can't quite decided if you are for or against noisy neighbours there.

pam1 30-06-2008 16:33

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 600432)
I can't quite decided if you are for or against noisy neighbours there.

willow i think he is against, or he is just stating a fact about how loud the nose should be, before some one can complain.

jaysay 30-06-2008 16:37

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Hell I'm going to have to be careful as I've been told I snore for England:eek::D

pam1 30-06-2008 16:41

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jaysay don't tell us you snore at 32 decibels? in that case I'm glad i don't live next door to you lol

jambutty 30-06-2008 16:42

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I’m not against noisy neighbours during normal hours. Say about 8:00am to about 11:00pm. Even though I rarely get up before 10:00am. I’m a good sleeper with noise all around me. Any sailor on a warship quickly learns to ignore noises and get to sleep at the drop of a hat, because a ship never sleeps, except in dry dock. In fact being responsible for various bits of equipment like radar etc I was awake before being called if the radar aerial stopped rotating for some reason. I could ‘hear’ the missing noise. If that makes sense? Electricians would “KNOW” if a ship’s power generator suddenly stopped.

But for me people can make as much noise as they like during the day, although the boom, boom music can be a bit wearing at times, especially in summer when most of my windows are open. If it gets too much my stereo bangs out things like military marches, traditional jazz and big bands to drown it out. It’s amazing how quickly the boom, boom music gets turned down so I turn mine down too in appreciation. And we live in harmony.

Night time is a different matter though and people should think of their neighbours.

Sadly in today’s me, me, me, me, me, me, me society, noisy neighbours are becoming a problem for some.

pam1 30-06-2008 16:56

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jambutty i agree with you after a certain time they should turn the music down, i fell sorry for the person that as to live next door to all that so i must be a lucky one i just a nose neighbour.

jaysay 30-06-2008 17:28

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Originally Posted by pam1 (Post 600454)
jaysay don't tell us you snore at 32 decibels? in that case I'm glad i don't live next door to you lol

Well I don't know pam I'm always asleep:D

Neil 30-06-2008 18:06

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 600455)
Electricians would “KNOW” if a ship’s power generator suddenly stopped.

I can tell the same thing here, the lights go out :rolleyes::D:D

banjoman 30-06-2008 18:11

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Its true though about the sound. We have a clock in our bedroom and usually it ticks 3 times for 3 seconds then doesnt for 3. The other night it was ticking twice then not for 4. I knew it was wrong and it took me ages to get to sleep, as my brain kept timing it for the missing tick. Stupid thing but there you go. Its now back to normal....Spooky

jambutty 30-06-2008 21:40

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 600524)
I can tell the same thing here, the lights go out :rolleyes::D:D

Not necessarily!

A ship has several generators. Some supplying the 440v 3 phase ring main. Some supplying the 230v single phase ring main. Some supplying the 110v 60Hz for some radar sets. Some supplying 60v 100Hz for other equipment.:tongueout

jambutty 30-06-2008 21:48

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When I lived in Blackpool during the war (that’s WWII not the Boer war) our house was the end one of a terraced row that backed onto the main railway line out of Blackpool. If there had been a window in the gable end I could have looked down on the railway.

Trains would come and go all night long and being the LMS they were always on time. I and everyone else slept through it all. But if one train didn’t arrive on time I and many other people would wake up and couldn’t get back to sleep until the next scheduled train came past.

Loz 30-06-2008 21:49

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It's difficult because different people have different tolerance levels.
Frank(my fiance) can sleep through anything but for me the slightest noise wakes me!
I'm not bothered during the day, i like my music loud too and me and my neighbours never have a problem but at night i always turn it down and it's annoying when you can hear your neighbours music/telly etc.. especially when you are trying to sleep.

cashman 30-06-2008 21:49

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had a real noisey git about 3 yrs ago, coming home in car window open, radio full blast n parking right under our bedroom window then sitting in car fer 5/10 mins listening to his music, i decided to put a letter through his door which was not very pleasant, he never did it since.;) hey it aint a kid, the guys in his 40s.

jambutty 30-06-2008 21:59

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For me the worst sort of noise isn’t the loud noise. I can cope with that and just drift off to sleep.

What really gets under the skin is that noise just on the edge of hearing. You know, the sort that you cannot hear if you rustle the bedclothes but lie still and quiet it is just there and you begin to strain to hear it better. Even when you cover your ears you can still hear it.

Bonnyboy 30-06-2008 22:12

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 600684)
For me the worst sort of noise isn’t the loud noise. I can cope with that and just drift off to sleep.

What really gets under the skin is that noise just on the edge of hearing. You know, the sort that you cannot hear if you rustle the bedclothes but lie still and quiet it is just there and you begin to strain to hear it better. Even when you cover your ears you can still hear it.

What always seemed to wake me when I was at sea was the deathly silence that occurred when the engines broke down.

Don’t know what your ships were like, ours were always breaking down, the engineers had to swap out piston liners on a regular basis ( at least one every second trip across the Atlantic )

The old piston liners were just dumped over the side, as was all the ships garbage, dunno if that is still allowed, things may have moved on from the 70’s

shillelagh 30-06-2008 23:56

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Me i have problems sleeping if its quiet!!!

If i stop at my sisters or brothers or if i go to ireland and stop at most of my cousins i cant sleep. Its too quiet - no traffic going past!!! lol

emamum 01-07-2008 01:00

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I used to live right next to a train station with a level crossing and after a few days i stopped hearing it..... but the tap dripping in the bathroom will keep me awake and i wake up before tylers feet hit the floor at night..

Tyler would sleep through a marching band in his bedroom once he is off..... he once fell asleep at a rock concert lol

jaysay 01-07-2008 09:14

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I have trouble getting off to sleep if its to quite, I always leave the TV on but put it on auto knock off, I usually drop off in 5 or 10 minutes and sleep about 6 or 7 hours

jambutty 01-07-2008 09:36

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The only thing that stops me from dropping off is if I have something in my head that requires my attention.

Like for instance if I read a post that required a response and I went to bed before doing so. I deliberately don’t download any emails if I know I don’t have the time to do them justice before going to bed or even going out.

Or I get an idea on how to do something and went to bed without exploring it.

shillelagh 01-07-2008 16:09

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I fell asleep in peppermint place next to the speakers... does that count? I'd been working since 3pm to 10pm got changed at work (working at the little chef at the time at rising bridge) and went straight over to meet my mates in yates's wine lodge in blackburn went up to peppermint place and fell asleep.... bouncers came over to check i was ok!!! lol

WillowTheWhisp 01-07-2008 16:48

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I can fall asleep during the day with loud noises going on but at night it keeps me awake. How mad is that?

If we have a fan on and I fall asleep with it going I wake up if someone turns it off.


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