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cashman 14-07-2008 21:46
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 606706)
The article gives us lots of detail about protocol and planning, but precious little about why she deserves the funeral .... she won three elections, and won the Falklands War .... not really all that much is it .... it's like saying that Jean Chretien, a former Canadian PM, deserves a state funeral because he never lost an election, and he kept us out of Iraq .... sure she was a major figure in World Politics, but is that what state funerals are supposed to recognize? Nelson I can understand, Wellington too, not so sure about Palmerston (although he did give the world gunboat diplomacy), Gladstone, maybe, and Churchill I can understand.
now eric she did sink the "Belgrano" a ship out of territorial waters n sailing in the opposite direction.:rolleyes:

andrewb 14-07-2008 21:47
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 606712)
now eric she did sink the "Belgrano" a ship out of territorial waters n sailing in the opposite direction.:rolleyes:
Later revealed that it was turning around to come back in and shoot. Thankfully she used her judgment and saved our boys.

cashman 14-07-2008 22:07
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Later revealed that it was turning around to come back in and shoot. Thankfully she used her judgment and saved our boys.
you believe that, i believe the documentary i watched years after.

Royboy39 14-07-2008 22:30
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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 606629)
At teh time I didn't agree with her policies but I admire teh fact that she stood up for this country and her beliefs rather than turning turtle at the first sign of trouble that teh Labour gov have done ever since.

yep, give teh old girl a send off.
I remember in 1958 in the Brittania Club in Singapore which is opposite the Raffles Hotel, some American GI's made a reference to our Sovereign Lady, The Queen, To use their words would be a 'Good lay'.
That was an insult to our Queen and the servicemen who were serving in the theatre at the time.
If an American comments on the ways that the ordinary Brit spends his life or selects his politics, it goes against the grain and we will retaliate.
I have never seen Americans back out of a situation so fast when the British Servicemen threw each and everyone of the GI'S in the swimming pool with a warning that if they came out of the drink with the same opinion, god help them.
Our Politics are different from our 'Friends' from over the pond and I would say to them: Kiss my Arse Uncle Sam.

Eric 14-07-2008 22:30
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 606712)
now eric she did sink the "Belgrano" a ship out of territorial waters n sailing in the opposite direction.:rolleyes:
As far as I remember, the Belgrano was a little long in the tooth wasn't she ... WWll vintage ... the phrase "sitting duck" comes to mind;)

cashman 14-07-2008 22:34
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As far as I remember, the Belgrano was a little long in the tooth wasn't she ... WWll vintage ... the phrase "sitting duck" comes to mind;)
yep but no doubt cyfr will bull it up to have been a " Top Destroyer":rolleyes:

Mancie 14-07-2008 22:34
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I know there was respect shown for Churchill even though many people did not like him as PM after the war.... but for Thatcher?.. the only ones showing respect will be the right wing Tory brigade.

garinda 14-07-2008 22:36
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Personally I don't think she should recieve a State Funeral.

That honour should go to the last veteran of World War I, and then only if he wants it.

accyman 14-07-2008 22:36
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 606715)
Later revealed that it was turning around to come back in and shoot. Thankfully she used her judgment and saved our boys.

what a load of twaddle ,can a tory actualy do wrong or are you prepared to say anything no matter how stupid to defend one

cashman 14-07-2008 22:36
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 606749)
I know there was respect shown for Churchill even though many people did not like him as PM after the war.... but for Thatcher?.. the only ones showing respect will be the right wing Tory brigade.
also the jam butty estate 10 bob millionaires.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 14-07-2008 22:36
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I hope not many show up to line the streets, just to show how wrong they are to do this.

andrewb 14-07-2008 22:38
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 606748)
yep but no doubt cyfr will bull it up to have been a " Top Destroyer":rolleyes:
Belgrano was given orders to attack our boys, they invaded our islands, our people, they were the foreign aggressors.

cashman 14-07-2008 22:40
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 606756)
Belgrano was given orders to attack our boys, they invaded our islands, our people, they were the foreign aggressors.
dream on fruitcake.:rolleyes:

Eric 14-07-2008 22:41
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 606745)
I remember in 1958 in the Brittania Club in Singapore which is opposite the Raffles Hotel, some American GI's made a reference to our Sovereign Lady, The Queen, To use their words would be a 'Good lay'.
That was an insult to our Queen and the servicemen who were serving in the theatre at the time.
If an American comments on the ways that the ordinary Brit spends his life or selects his politics, it goes against the grain and we will retaliate.
I have never seen Americans back out of a situation so fast when the British Servicemen threw each and everyone of the GI'S in the swimming pool with a warning that if they came out of the drink with the same opinion, god help them.
Our Politics are different from our 'Friends' from over the pond and I would say to them: Kiss my Arse Uncle Sam.
With a little change in the spelling, we say the same thing to our neighbours all the time .... we did it when GW asked us to become involved in Iraq .... But I seem to remember that Maggie had her head so far up Ronny Raygun's ass that they both ate from the same plate ... I don't think that this is a good reason for a State Funeral, but, no doubt it will be talked about as "establishing closer ties with the great democracy across the Atlantic".:rolleyes:

andrewb 14-07-2008 22:42
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 606757)
dream on fruitcake.:rolleyes:
Sorry please correct me if I'm wrong.


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