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jaysay 22-07-2008 09:32
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It's sweet Andrewb's little college chum has returned, to grace us with their wisdom.

Perhaps Andrewb could change his name, once again?

Then they could be co-joined as Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, named after the other absursist, tragic comics.
Don't know Rindi, looks like they're alive and kicking to me:D

bullseyebarb 22-07-2008 15:37
Re: is socialism dead? and should we care?
 
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 608777)
Socialism, in some form, is at the core of many religions: it is hard to read the teachings of Jesus without socialism coming to mind.
Christ exhorts us, as individuals, to care for the poor and sick - not to cede the mission to government.

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.


Benipete 22-07-2008 15:56
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)
Christ exhorts us, as individuals, to care for the poor and sick - not to cede the mission to government.

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
I agree entirely - we are not all equal some people work harder than others and deserve more from life.I'm even prepared to admit someone out there maybe as good as me.Do you have to shout?:tongueout

jaysay 22-07-2008 16:17
Re: is socialism dead? and should we care?
 
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)
Christ exhorts us, as individuals, to care for the poor and sick - not to cede the mission to government.

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
Don't think you can put it much clearer than that Bullseyebarb, Its always said that you could take the wealth of the whole world, share it out equally with all the inhabitants, and within 5 years it would be status quo, the haves would have and have knots would be back where they started

garinda 22-07-2008 17:05
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
The same could be said of religion too.;)

jaysay 22-07-2008 17:07
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The same could be said of religion too.;)
Don't start on religion Rindi, we've enough with politics:rolleyes:

andrewb 22-07-2008 17:46
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)
Christ exhorts us, as individuals, to care for the poor and sick - not to cede the mission to government.

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
Well said! :D

steeljack 22-07-2008 19:43
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)
Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
maybe thats why Cuba has a better literacy rate than the US , and maybe thats why more Cubans have better access to basic free health care than lots of innner city urban Americans.
Maybe , just maybe thats why the folks of Cuba kept Fidel Castro in power for so many years (since Eisenhower was president if I'm not mistaken) and not followed the American capitalistic model placed on neighbouring Haiti ;)

Royboy39 22-07-2008 19:57
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 610038)
maybe thats why Cuba has a better literacy rate than the US , and maybe thats why more Cubans have better access to basic free health care than lots of innner city urban Americans.
Maybe , just maybe thats why the folks of Cuba kept Fidel Castro in power for so many years (since Eisenhower was president if I'm not mistaken) and not followed the American capitalistic model placed on neighbouring Haiti ;)
What's the difference between Americans and Canadians?....They all look the same to me..............:hidewall::D:p

And the Ausies?...........Ausies from Ossy....Canadians from Blackburn.....Americans from Burnley?

Eric 22-07-2008 20:03
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What's the difference between Americans and Canadians?....They all look the same to me..............:hidewall::D:p

And the Ausies?...........Ausies from Ossy....Canadians from Blackburn.....Americans from Burnley?
Canadians are unarmed Americans with health care, and a high popularity rating:D

Eric 22-07-2008 20:05
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 610038)
maybe thats why Cuba has a better literacy rate than the US , and maybe thats why more Cubans have better access to basic free health care than lots of innner city urban Americans.
Maybe , just maybe thats why the folks of Cuba kept Fidel Castro in power for so many years (since Eisenhower was president if I'm not mistaken) and not followed the American capitalistic model placed on neighbouring Haiti ;)
Shhh, not so loud .... everyone will want health care and education ....;)

Royboy39 22-07-2008 20:05
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 610047)
Canadians are unarmed Americans with health care, and a high popularity rating:D
Ye right...I think I will change that to Canadians from Burnley?;)

Eric 22-07-2008 20:09
Re: is socialism dead? and should we care?
 
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 609937)
Christ exhorts us, as individuals, to care for the poor and sick - not to cede the mission to government.

Socialism, in all its forms, has failed everywhere it's been tried.....a) because it goes against human nature and b) because ultimately it is unsustainable. And yet it seems that many still cling to the notion, in the mistaken belief that it just hasn't yet been implemented correctly. It's latest incarnation is a form of economic fascism. This too will fail.
You forgot "c": c) Because the US doesn't like it, and is prepared to use all its military and economic might to prevent it.:eek:

Eric 22-07-2008 20:11
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Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 609825)
LONG WORDS ARE MEANINGLESS BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM
Me too: I eschew obfuscation.:D

garinda 22-07-2008 20:34
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 610038)
maybe thats why Cuba has a better literacy rate than the US , and maybe thats why more Cubans have better access to basic free health care than lots of innner city urban Americans.
Maybe , just maybe thats why the folks of Cuba kept Fidel Castro in power for so many years (since Eisenhower was president if I'm not mistaken) and not followed the American capitalistic model placed on neighbouring Haiti ;)
Anymore of that red propoganda and you'll be up against Senator Barb McCarthy.;)


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