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maxwell silver 06-08-2008 16:59

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This lad & his WAG accross the road from me have decided it's in their interest to park their car right outside my house.Not a lot i can do,i know but it does get bloody infuriating,especially when folk visit,or the wife comes home with the shopping & has to walk half the street while the taxi driver taps his steering wheel.They already have one clapped out wreck outside their own home(fancies his self as a bit of a car trader),but there's plenty of room either side to park.The other day WAG was sitting in the car when my taxi arrived & had to wait outside their house,so we both had to cross the street to get to our respective cars....seems ridiculous to me,and she shot off pronto when she clocked me leaving the house.Any way big delivery van coming at the weekend,i hope they shunt it down the street & out of the bloody way:mad:

Tealeaf 06-08-2008 17:06

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Have you checked if the clapped out car is insured & taxed?

derekgas 06-08-2008 17:21

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Have the same here, people opposite have drives at the back, but park outside our house, and always across the tarmac bit between the grass verge so you have to walk in the grass, I will be parking works vans there for a bit now while people are on holidays!

jambutty 06-08-2008 18:12

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When I lived on the Roman Road estate, a guy I knew a bit had a way of dealing with people parking in front of his house.

He would wedge a nail or a screw point upwards under at least one wheel. One nail would be behind the wheel and one in front of another one. Thus ensuring that the tyre would puncture as the car set off even if it reversed first.

MargaretR 06-08-2008 18:15

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That nutcase ex of mine had a big mark 9 Jag and used to shunt them away from my door with it.

maxwell silver 06-08-2008 18:17

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 615627)
Have you checked if the clapped out car is insured & taxed?

Not sure,i'll have a closer look.Actually not so much of a banger as something that would appeal to the boy racer or chav.Alas the farthest it seems to have travelled is around the block.

flashy 06-08-2008 18:18

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lol Richard has a land rover discovery and some stupid woman across the road insisted on parking bumper to bumper with him, one day he ever so politely pushed the stupid womans car out of the way with the discovery, served herself right for parking so he couldnt get out :D

Retlaw 06-08-2008 18:42

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Another way to deal with those bone idle selfish buggers, is super glue in the petrol filler cap key hole. They will never know when or where it was done, and they might not be back for a long time.

Retlaw
:hidewall:

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 615674)
When I lived on the Roman Road estate, a guy I knew a bit had a way of dealing with people parking in front of his house.

He would wedge a nail or a screw point upwards under at least one wheel. One nail would be behind the wheel and one in front of another one. Thus ensuring that the tyre would puncture as the car set off even if it reversed first.


entwisi 06-08-2008 18:55

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so many people advising criminal damage? shame on you all, if its taxed and insured then legally he can park it there. It might be inconvienient for Maxwell but its not illegal

accyman 06-08-2008 19:12

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throw bread on the roof of their car thats outside your house

the pigeons will make nice work of their paint job getting at the bread with their feet and beaks


if it isnt taxed ring the dvla up and they will soon have a big yellow clamp on it

jambutty 06-08-2008 21:39

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 615699)
so many people advising criminal damage? shame on you all, if its taxed and insured then legally he can park it there. It might be inconvienient for Maxwell but its not illegal

Strictly speaking no vehicle has ANY PARKING RIGHTS on the public highway except in specifically designated areas such as on-street parking metered or otherwise and those domestic areas where you need a local permit to park only given or rather sold to residents. Even a disabled bay marked on the public highway by the local authority is not legal unless there is a plaque on a nearby wall, lamppost etc stating the terms of parking in it. Even then it is not for the exclusive use of the resident nearest to the bay. Any Blue Badge holder can park in it.

Anywhere else you can get booked for obstruction. Not that it happens very often unless it happens to obstruct the free passage of a fire engine, police car or ambulance.

Ber999T 07-08-2008 02:12

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Firstly sometimes wish we had BULL BARS on amb for some streets (not just in Accy either) LOL Secondly if he is TRADING contact Trading Standards as they will check, if they want,

if he has

a) Council Permmisson to run a bussiness from home
b) With Customs and Excise for VAT returns...LOL
c) With Land Regiserty to see if it is allowed within DEEDS or COVINTMENT (sp) to work from home





Oh by the way the worst people to upset are C&E they tend to get offenders sent down for years and seize assessets and or property

entwisi 07-08-2008 08:14

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 615798)
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Strictly speaking no vehicle has ANY PARKING RIGHTS on the public highway except in specifically designated areas such as on-street parking metered or otherwise and those domestic areas where you need a local permit to park only given or rather sold to residents.


Care to find a link that backs this up? The Highway code (whilst not legislation) doesn't seem to back you up

jaysay 07-08-2008 09:04

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On way of making a point is to just pop a not nder the wiper, saying that cars who repeatedly park her may end up with flat tyres, and don't forget to say thank you:rolleyes:

MargaretR 07-08-2008 09:06

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I think using it as a bird table was the best idea

jambutty 07-08-2008 13:52

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 615979)
Care to find a link that backs this up? The Highway code (whilst not legislation) doesn't seem to back you up

Certainly!

The Highway Code implies that you should not park where it will cause an obstruction to other road users. It mentions specific instances and in particular at:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860

[Laws CSDPA sect 21 & RTRA sects 5 & 8]
242
You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.

[Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103]
243
DO NOT stop or park anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services

Although the Highway Code is not in itself law most of the points covered by it has laws to enforce the various points.

cherokee 07-08-2008 14:06

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:D
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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 615997)
I think using it as a bird table was the best idea


Yeah that made me laugh too:D

entwisi 07-08-2008 14:12

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But that isn't what you posted, you said that
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Strictly speaking no vehicle has ANY PARKING RIGHTS on the public highway
but they must not cause an obstuction or ........ as per the relevant legislation. You currently haven't shown that I don't have a right to park if I comply with the few restrictions that teh HC states

Gayle 07-08-2008 14:14

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I think what Jambutty is saying is that no one has the automatic right to park outside their own home.

jaysay 07-08-2008 16:24

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 616101)
I think what Jambutty is saying is that no one has the automatic right to park outside their own home.

Quite right Gayle, but it didn't stop my old man playing holy hell when cars were park outside his door when Accy Players were on at the Town Hall (sorry Civic Theatre):D

cashman 07-08-2008 16:28

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 616101)
I think what Jambutty is saying is that no one has the automatic right to park outside their own home.

thats how i read it, n it may be irritating at times but thats the way of it.

maxwell silver 07-08-2008 16:37

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 616101)
I think what Jambutty is saying is that no one has the automatic right to park outside their own home.

So park outside your neighbours instead:rolleyes:

MargaretR 07-08-2008 16:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 616162)
Quite right Gayle, but it didn't stop my old man playing holy hell when cars were park outside his door when Accy Players were on at the Town Hall (sorry Civic Theatre):D

That is when my ex did his shunting with the Jag
I lived right next to the town hall car park
He shunted them so they blocked the back street entry
We watched as they returned to their cars looking puzzled
Those were the days when bumpers were bumpers

jambutty 07-08-2008 18:09

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 616099)
But that isn't what you posted, you said that

but they must not cause an obstuction or ........ as per the relevant legislation. You currently haven't shown that I don't have a right to park if I comply with the few restrictions that teh HC states

Which part of “Strictly speaking” do you not understand?

Any vehicle parked close to and more or less parallel with the kerb is by the fact of being parked there, likely to cause an obstruction to other road users. It may not do so at the time of parking but additional circumstances could turn it into an obstruction. A vehicle has a concession to park on the public highway providing that it is not and does not become an obstruction - not a right.

And I also posted my post #16. Don’t you understand English?

Talk about pernickety nit picking just to try and prove that I have got something wrong.

Don’t you ever grow up?

Mr Aleks 07-08-2008 22:24

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Guy next door to me came banging on the door few weeks ago ranting how i "always" park outside his house. Seeing as i live right next to him i probably sometimes do yeah. Same to anyone who moans about it....

My car is taxed insured and MOt'd dont like it? Tough luck.

forceten 07-08-2008 22:58

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When my mum was at her home (she is in a nursing home now), she was disabled, but didn't drive so couldn't have a disabled bay outside her drive. So, she had a H bar put there. She had that put there as her neighbours, at one side were always blocking her drive. She needed that access so that the people amblance that came to get her for her hospital appointments, or my sister or myself could park there.

Mum couldn't walk on grass, but more to the point, she was disabled and couldn't walk very far, and in parking infront of her drive they were blocking her access.

The H bar hasn't made a blind bit of difference. The neighbours still park there, and we can't park outside Mums or park in her drive as it's blocked by neighbours cars.

Totally inconsiderate are some people.

And before people tell me to park further up the road............it's double yellow lines!!

A little bit of respect is all that is needed

Neil 08-08-2008 08:01

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If they are blocking her drive and she has a dropped kurb on the footpath then ring the Police and ask them to move the car. I have had to do it in the past for the same reason. I expect I will be doing it again soon as someone has started to think it is ok to park accross my drive.

forceten 08-08-2008 08:24

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I've tried that Neil, but the police say it has nothing to do with them

Neil 08-08-2008 09:25

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When I phoned them they sorted it out.

polly 08-08-2008 09:31

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 615997)
I think using it as a bird table was the best idea

Yes, I liked that. Non aggressive and feeds the birds but maybe not bread as it blats their stomachs

Less 08-08-2008 09:38

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Originally Posted by polly (Post 616387)
Yes, I liked that. Non aggressive and feeds the birds but maybe not bread as it blats their stomachs

So that's two good reasons, gets rid of the car and the flying rats!


http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies...animal0064.gif Go seek 'em my beauty it's lunch time!

entwisi 08-08-2008 12:45

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 616203)
Which part of “Strictly speaking” do you not understand?

I understand it very well thanks, my psychometric testing results put me in top 1% of the country for comprehension thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty

Any vehicle parked close to and more or less parallel with the kerb is by the fact of being parked there, likely to cause an obstruction to other road users. It may not do so at the time of parking but additional circumstances could turn it into an obstruction. A vehicle has a concession to park on the public highway providing that it is not and does not become an obstruction - not a right.

A vehicle doesn't sudenly become an obstruction itself, the change in circumstances would have been a result of some other influence/person and as such the obstruction would be their making not the vehicle previously parked. It does not alter teh fact that the car had teh right to park their initially.
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Originally Posted by jambutty
And I also posted my post #16. Don’t you understand English?

Talk about pernickety nit picking just to try and prove that I have got something wrong.

Don’t you ever grow up?

I grew up a long time ago. seemingly you like to argue rather than answer the Q that was asked.

If you got it wrong then fine, if you didn't then also fine, I asked for teh proof to something you were saying that was all

As for being pedantic, I think a term involving pots and kettles springs to mind.

Studio25 08-08-2008 23:35

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Originally Posted by forceten (Post 616377)
I've tried that Neil, but the police say it has nothing to do with them

Great Harwood Police took the registration number of someone blocking our drive, and pulled their details from DVLA. Sorted within ten minutes.

We weren't even desperate to go out - we just wanted to nip it in the bud before it became habit forming.

Loz 09-08-2008 09:01

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It is annoying when that happens.
My dad is disabled and at the moment can't park on his drive because he is in a wheelchair and there isn't enough room.
He parks in front of his house when he can but more often than not other neighbours or people visisting park there even though they have drives and space in front of their own houses.
This is of course a huge inconvenience not only for my dad who then struggles to find somewhere to park where he can get out of the car ut also for his partner Linda who wheels him around.
Everybody up there knows about his condition so in my mind it is sheer bloody ignorance that they park there.

Studio25 09-08-2008 11:00

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 616299)
Guy next door to me came banging on the door few weeks ago ranting how i "always" park outside his house...

Woman next door came over a few weeks ago to take a pop at me for all three cars parked in the layby between our houses. Did she apologise when I told her only one of them was ours. Did she h*ll.

Anyway I did. I told her I was very sorry, and that I hadn't realised that the layby actually belonged to her, I just assumed it was part of the highway like they usually are. When she told her it wasn't hers, I politely told her to go away...

Funnily enough - she doesn't appear to have a problem parking next to our house when the layby is full of her own kids' cars...

MargaretR 09-08-2008 11:56

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What may appear to be a public road sometimes isn't.
I lived in a gable end house where a short road at the side led to the back street.
The deeds showed that my half of this short side street was my property, but it was a right of way for others.
My son has also lived in a gable end house and his deeds showed the same.

So if you park next to a gable end house - be aware that the house owner may well own the land you park on.

Studio25 09-08-2008 23:56

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 616883)
What may appear to be a public road sometimes isn't.

I know what you mean - but this is a public road. It leads to a new estate, and the layby was put in to allow the existing houses either side of the accessroad somewhere to park.

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 616883)
So if you park next to a gable end house - be aware that the house owner may well own the land you park on.

That happens to the neighbours at the opposite end of our block. The road in front of the house is public, so they have no (legal) right to park there. the land beside their house belongs to them, and has three other peoples' cars parked there all the time. When here dad tried to enforce their ownership of the land by parking there, he got back to it to find it covered in smashed eggs!


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