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Gayle 13-08-2008 13:57

It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
....so says a leading professor!

I took this from a news report but I also saw the pompous twit on Look North last night. Basically said that cities in the north are beyond saving and the only way to have a decent standard of living in the future will be to move south!

I can't believe how misplaced, arrogant, incorrect and just plain stupid I thought he was!!!!!

This is the article with a link to the full report -
Cities in northern England are beyond saving and residents should move south, a new report from the Policy Exchange think tank argues.
Urban regeneration in the north is failing its citizens so much that only a mass migration to London, Cambridge and Oxford would free them from poverty.
To support this exodus, the report argues more affordable homes should be built and that planning restrictions should be relaxed.
"No-one is suggesting that residents should be forced to move, but we do argue that they should be told the reality of the position: regeneration, in the sense of convergence, will not happen, because it is not possible," the report concludes.

pipinfort 13-08-2008 13:59

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
I think this was a April fool left over from earlier this year...........move down south.........:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Less 13-08-2008 15:21

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Let's not be silly, he is obviously has a job as an Estate Agent on the side.

He wants all the gullible with money in the North, to inflate the prices of the houses down south by tempting them in that direction, (thus keeping him in work), and at the same time causing a collapse in house properties in the North so that he can buy them all up and sell them off to first time buyers from the south that are willing to commute.
;)

shakermaker 13-08-2008 15:26

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Has anyone seen Accrington town centre lately? It is completely depressing and it's getting worse every year. I can't wait to get out. Of course many think the grass is greener on the other side until they've lived in another place, but I do not wish to see my once quite pleasant town getting worse anymore.
Blackburn Road is the most depressing place I have ever come across.

jaysay 13-08-2008 16:20

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 618539)
....so says a leading professor!

I took this from a news report but I also saw the pompous twit on Look North last night. Basically said that cities in the north are beyond saving and the only way to have a decent standard of living in the future will be to move south!

I can't believe how misplaced, arrogant, incorrect and just plain stupid I thought he was!!!!!

This is the article with a link to the full report -
Cities in northern England are beyond saving and residents should move south, a new report from the Policy Exchange think tank argues.
Urban regeneration in the north is failing its citizens so much that only a mass migration to London, Cambridge and Oxford would free them from poverty.
To support this exodus, the report argues more affordable homes should be built and that planning restrictions should be relaxed.
"No-one is suggesting that residents should be forced to move, but we do argue that they should be told the reality of the position: regeneration, in the sense of convergence, will not happen, because it is not possible," the report concludes.

Thats your trouble Gayle your to dam nice, pompous twit, he's the biggest plonker I've had the misfortune witnessing for a long time, I felt like gragging the ********** through the Telly and giving him a good slap. I just wonder where he was dragged up, maybe Tumbridge Wells or Virginia Water, I know he wants to go and jump in the Thames and take his mates with him.

mrskitty 13-08-2008 16:23

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If only it was that simple ;)

yerself 13-08-2008 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay
Thats your trouble Gayle your to dam nice, pompous twit, he's the biggest plonker I've had the misfortune witnessing for a long time, I felt like gragging the ********** through the Telly and giving him a good slap. I just wonder where he was dragged up, maybe Tumbridge Wells or Virginia Water, I know he wants to go and jump in the Thames and take his mates with him

This report was, according to the 'Telegraph, published by 'Policy Exchange', a Conservative-leaning think tank. Wonder what andrewb thinks of it?

Northerners urged to move down south (From Lancashire Telegraph)

MargaretR 13-08-2008 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 618583)
This report was, according to the 'Telegraph, published by 'Policy Exchange', a Conservative-leaning think tank. Wonder what andrewb thinks of it.

Northerners urged to move down south (From Lancashire Telegraph)

His 'guru' has already condemned it
BBC NEWS | Politics | City report 'insane' says Cameron

jaysay 13-08-2008 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 618583)
This report was, according to the 'Telegraph, published by 'Policy Exchange', a Conservative-leaning think tank. Wonder what andrewb thinks of it?

Northerners urged to move down south (From Lancashire Telegraph)

There's not only prats with Labour leanings yerself, there's plenty left right and centre;)

yerself 13-08-2008 17:00

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From their website:

Policy Exchange is an independent think tank whose mission is to develop and promote new policy ideas which will foster a free society based on strong communities, personal freedom, limited government, national self-confidence and an enterprise culture.

Gayle 13-08-2008 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 618562)
Has anyone seen Accrington town centre lately? It is completely depressing and it's getting worse every year. I can't wait to get out. Of course many think the grass is greener on the other side until they've lived in another place, but I do not wish to see my once quite pleasant town getting worse anymore.
Blackburn Road is the most depressing place I have ever come across.


I take your point to some degree but regeneration is only just starting to kick in in Hyndburn and things like the Blackburn Rd regeneration, Town Centre Masterplan, West Accrington housing, etc are all five year plans. If things are still the same in five years time then it's time to be really depressed.

Gayle 13-08-2008 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 618571)
Thats your trouble Gayle your to dam nice,

Is that why no one voted for me? :D

I can assure you I've only printed the words that I would let children read. The ones I thought about using are probably more in line with yours. ;)

andrewb 13-08-2008 17:11

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I too think its crazy, god knows what they were thinking.

There are some interesting ideas in the report though. It suggests removing restrictions on housing in the South, allowing housing to be built on industrial land. This would raise the cost of establishing new businesses in the south so might encourage more business start-ups in the North, improving local economies up here.

Margaret Pilkington 13-08-2008 17:14

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
I cannot believe that this was a serious suggestion.......has anyone thought of the impications of such actions?

Eric 13-08-2008 17:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 618591)
From their website:

Policy Exchange is an independent think tank whose mission is to develop and promote new policy ideas which will foster a free society based on strong communities, personal freedom, limited government, national self-confidence and an enterprise culture.

In other words, a right wing think tank .... they have them all over the world; our version is the Fraser Institute .... they are best shot at dawn, or, failing that, ignored;)

panther 13-08-2008 17:41

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
why move south?, if anything id move further north!.....to bonny scotland:D

MargaretR 13-08-2008 17:43

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Why move? - just give Scotland independance
and resite the border just north of Birmingham

Eric 13-08-2008 18:04

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
I think it's a great idea for the people of the North to move South .... arm yourselves lads and lasses .... grab your weapons, march down there, kick the crap out of the southerners and take over the whole damn country .... let's get back to the days of Richard lll, when the power was in the North (where it belongs):alright::alright::alright:

Eric 13-08-2008 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 618614)
Why move? - just give Scotland independance
and resite the border just north of Birmingham

Actually the River Trent would make a good southern boundry for the North ....

Just think how much fun it would be watching the Scottish Premier League:D

vera 13-08-2008 18:24

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Has this idiot thought about how ordinary working class people from the North West would be able to afford housing in London and it's surrounding areas? As a southerner myself i often keep an eye on the price of houses down there, there is no earthly chance i could ever afford to move back South, not that i want to, as a house that could cost £80,000 here would cost well over £150,000 there. How many North Westeners could afford that, in fact that would probably be for a one bedroom flat if you were lucky.

cashman 13-08-2008 18:34

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i have lived north, midlands, and south, though a lancastrian by birth, its not just about district/area its about people n that muppet on the news was certainly not a northerner,wonder HOW much money this right wing clown was paid fer producing this masterpiece of stupidity?:rolleyes:

lancsdave 13-08-2008 18:48

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Think it's a great idea. go on ****** off the lot of you :D:p

Eric 13-08-2008 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 618649)
Think it's a great idea. go on ****** off the lot of you :D:p

I already did ..... In Canada we don't just live in the north .... We are the north, strong and free:theband: ... and a little on the chilly side in winter;):D

Mancie 13-08-2008 22:40

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Hope it dosent come to this!..northerners trying to break into London at Watford :D
YouTube - The great Escape East-Berlin (cold war)

:bingobang

Loz 14-08-2008 07:41

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
What an absolute idiot!
Didn't he realise how much us northerners would be angry and insulted by such comments?
Has he not heard that Liverpool is the Capital of Culture or that Leeds is one of the fastest growing Cities in Britain?
I really wish i could say what i really feel about this but don't fancy a ban so will keep quiet!
Really made me angry though.:mad:

entwisi 14-08-2008 07:57

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
Don't get angry, get even :D

I'm surprised he as an intelligent person didn't read his own report and think "ooo, I bet this upsets a few northerners...... I'd better not publish it"

Gayle 14-08-2008 08:00

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
The Policy Exchange is the Conservatives favoured think tank but even Cameron has realised how dumb this report is and tried to distance himself from it.

jaysay 14-08-2008 09:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 618594)
Is that why no one voted for me? :D

I can assure you I've only printed the words that I would let children read. The ones I thought about using are probably more in line with yours. ;)

Well not quite no one Gayle, it was just that you didn't get as many as your opponent, who's name escapes me for the minute:D

Even so I had to tone down my language, or take the thread into the over 18s

jambutty 15-08-2008 09:31

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Nah! This is a clever ruse to depopulate the country.

Half the northern population moves down south, then when global warming hits with a vengeance, most of the south of England is claimed by the sea and drowns all the people, the survivors will have room up north to go to.

West Ender 15-08-2008 18:39

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Why is everyone getting into a tizzy over the ramblings of a prat? Let him carry on and, with luck, he and his ilk will stay right where they are and leave us Northerners in peace. The trouble is Londoners, in particular, often "discover" places like the Ribble Valley, the Yorkshire Dales and coastal Northumberland, among others, and they start to invade us. :eek:

Just ignore this twerp and, hopefully, he'll go away. :D

Mancie 15-08-2008 23:39

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
it's true..
YouTube - The Smiths - Panic

grannyclaret 15-08-2008 23:49

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maybe we could educate the southerners,,, with a few martians
YouTube - The martians have landed in Wigan

Mancie 15-08-2008 23:55

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Wigans got alot to answer for Granny

Benipete 16-08-2008 00:54

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[quote=Mancie;619464]Wigans got alot to answer for Granny[/quote

Spot on - Mr M's Wigan Casino And not to mention the Pier and the famous Wigan Kebab.

3 meat pies on a stick:hehetable

steeljack 16-08-2008 03:15

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surprised young Andrewb has't cited this 'editorial' from Edwina Currie....

EDWINA CURRIE: Isn't it time we Scousers admitted some home truths? | Mail Online


:hidewall:

MargaretR 16-08-2008 08:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 619490)
surprised young Andrewb has't cited this 'editorial' from Edwina Currie....

EDWINA CURRIE: Isn't it time we Scousers admitted some home truths? | Mail Online


:hidewall:

I read that too Jack - she did say that Manchester had made the effort to avoid the decline and that Liverpool hadn't. So she was't condeming us all.

andrewb 16-08-2008 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 619461)

You have good taste. I think I'll have a Morrissey day. :D

mani 17-08-2008 14:18

Re: It's so bad up north that everyone should move to the south
 
liverpool still go on about the beatles - its all u ever hear from the scousers when they're trying to promote the city.

thats like the mancs goin on about the busby babes or in 20 yrs time oasis. scousers do have a certain mentality that look how great our city was back when they were around - the same way liverpool fc supporters go on about 5 times and dont look at their premiership record.

alot of cities up north have lost their meaning to exist - the reason they were built up in the first place eg shipbuilding. just as alot of towns like accy have

Wynonie Harris 17-08-2008 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 619475)
Spot on - Mr M's Wigan Casino

Always plenty of Martians in there when I used to go. You could spot 'em by their staring eyes. ;)

jaysay 18-08-2008 09:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 620093)
Always plenty of Martians in there when I used to go. You could spot 'em by their staring eyes. ;)

Used to think they were Zombies WH:D

MargaretR 18-08-2008 09:38

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The chap who said all that about the North now slates London
Academic who rubbished northern cities turns ire on London | UK news | The Observer -
Not content with offending huge swaths of northern England, an academic who caused uproar by saying the regeneration of cities such as Liverpool and Sunderland had failed, has delivered a second outspoken assault - this time on London
.....and he is emigrating in a few weeks time :rolleyes: we won't miss him will we?

garinda 18-08-2008 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 620289)
The chap who said all that about the North now slates London
Academic who rubbished northern cities turns ire on London | UK news | The Observer -
Not content with offending huge swaths of northern England, an academic who caused uproar by saying the regeneration of cities such as Liverpool and Sunderland had failed, has delivered a second outspoken assault - this time on London
.....and he is emigrating in a few weeks time :rolleyes: we won't miss him will we?


It's nice to hear Herr Flick managed to find another career, after the demise of Allo, Allo.

Dr. Oliver Marc Hartwich

Nori Brick 18-08-2008 15:57

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That Muppet needs to wake up and smell the coffie if it wasn't for the northen towns all the southners would still be walking around naked an living in caves.

jaysay 18-08-2008 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nori Brick (Post 620526)
That Muppet needs to wake up and smell the coffie if it wasn't for the northen towns all the southners would still be walking around naked an living in caves.

Well are they not:D

Nori Brick 18-08-2008 16:27

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wouldn't put it past them

g jones 19-08-2008 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 618597)
I too think its crazy, god knows what they were thinking.

There are some interesting ideas in the report though. It suggests removing restrictions on housing in the South, allowing housing to be built on industrial land. This would raise the cost of establishing new businesses in the south so might encourage more business start-ups in the North, improving local economies up here.

I think everyone accepts it is a Conservative think tank. On the one hand it is good to come up with radical idea's and that has to be welcomed. It is also very close to David Cameron and other Tories and that is worrying.

Royboy39 19-08-2008 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 621191)
I think everyone accepts it is a Conservative think tank. On the one hand it is good to come up with radical idea's and that has to be welcomed. It is also very close to David Cameron and other Tories and that is worrying.

Move to Spain....No Brown....No Cameron...no council tax...£100 a week all in rental...sunsine....swimming pools...smoke as you will...cheaper fuel..good heathcare...drinks on the beach at night..Med in sight when you waken in the morning....fiesta's by the day...and fireworks.
I pay extras for Telephone and electric...and that's all
When you walk in the streets of our beloved Accy and Ossy if you dare..do you look over your shoulder....I dont have to.
Graham you have a lot of work to do to convince members to vote for you in the next round of elections...if I was you I would forget it.
Put your slippers on and 'Sod em all'

andrewb 19-08-2008 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 621191)
I think everyone accepts it is a Conservative think tank. On the one hand it is good to come up with radical idea's and that has to be welcomed. It is also very close to David Cameron and other Tories and that is worrying.

Its a right-leaning think-tank, conservative with a small c. I am not in the slightest worried, Cameron calls it insane, and they are committed to regeneration in the North.

Think tanks of all parties say the craziest things - a good leader and party will take the best ideas and throw away the rest.

cashman 19-08-2008 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 621245)
Its a right-leaning think-tank, conservative with a small c. I am not in the slightest worried, Cameron calls it insane, and they are committed to regeneration in the North.

Think tanks of all parties say the craziest things - a good leader and party will take the best ideas and throw away the rest.

yeh sneakily funding Oswald Mosley was one of their better ones?

garinda 19-08-2008 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 621245)
Its a right-leaning think-tank, conservative with a small c. I am not in the slightest worried, Cameron calls it insane

If Cameron thinks a conservative, with a small c, think tank's ideas are insane, just how far to the left is he willing to go in the pursuit of securing votes?

Oh yes, I remember, far enough to hug a poor little hoodie.

The c's got smaller, perhaps they should also drop the 'servative' bit, and rename themselves as the 'cons'.

andrewb 20-08-2008 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 621287)
If Cameron thinks a conservative, with a small c, think tank's ideas are insane, just how far to the left is he willing to go in the pursuit of securing votes?

Oh yes, I remember, far enough to hug a poor little hoodie.

The c's got smaller, perhaps they should also drop the 'servative' bit, and rename themselves as the 'cons'.


Haha oh how you can twist words Gary. :D

jaysay 20-08-2008 08:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 621296)
Haha oh how you can twist words Gary. :D

Well as some one who says he's none political, he sure leans one way only:D

garinda 20-08-2008 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 621320)
Well as some one who says he's none political, he sure leans one way only:D

If you take you blinkers off Dobbin (:D), you'd have seen that I'd called this present government 'morally corrupt', on this very forum, only a few short weeks ago.

I compared them to John Major's government, and you can't get more scathing than that.

I remain on the political fence, happily unencumbered by party politics, and free to praise, or criticise, where I see fit.:)

garinda 20-08-2008 11:43

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The fact that the Conservatives are so easy to ridicule fills a gap, now that bear baiting is illegal.;)

jaysay 20-08-2008 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 621410)
The fact that the Conservatives are so easy to ridicule fills a gap, now that bear baiting is illegal.;)

Well if the Tories are easy to Ridicule, you sure as hell could have a field day with Gordon and Alistair, the full time pantomime horse, now they stupidity personoified

jaysay 20-08-2008 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 621408)
If you take you blinkers off Dobbin (:D), you'd have seen that I'd called this present government 'morally corrupt', on this very forum, only a few short weeks ago.

I compared them to John Major's government, and you can't get more scathing than that.

I remain on the political fence, happily unencumbered by party politics, and free to praise, or criticise, where I see fit.:)

Now now Rindi none of this name calling, you'll hurt my feelings:D

cashman 20-08-2008 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 621502)
Now now Rindi none of this name calling, you'll hurt my feelings:D

Bullsh** n exocet wouldn't hurt your feelings.:D

Eric 20-08-2008 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 621222)
Move to Spain....No Brown....No Cameron...no council tax...£100 a week all in rental...sunsine....swimming pools...smoke as you will...cheaper fuel..good heathcare...drinks on the beach at night..Med in sight when you waken in the morning....fiesta's by the day...and fireworks.
I pay extras for Telephone and electric...and that's all
When you walk in the streets of our beloved Accy and Ossy if you dare..do you look over your shoulder....I dont have to.
Graham you have a lot of work to do to convince members to vote for you in the next round of elections...if I was you I would forget it.
Put your slippers on and 'Sod em all'

Careful there bud, if you keep painting such rosy pictures an English Armada full of limeys will be on its way to sunny Spain .... ;) Spain sounds ok, but it's kind of small and full of people who don't speak English (kinda like Quebec, eh:D) ... and no winters to speak of .... and that Med thing, not much bigger than a great lake is it:rolleyes:

jambutty 20-08-2008 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 621597)
Careful there bud, if you keep painting such rosy pictures an English Armada full of limeys will be on its way to sunny Spain .... ;) Spain sounds ok, but it's kind of small and full of people who don't speak English (kinda like Quebec, eh:D) ... and no winters to speak of .... and that Med thing, not much bigger than a great lake is it:rolleyes:

I think that you will find that you could lose all the five great lakes plus all the others in Canada in the Med and still have room for some more.

MargaretR 20-08-2008 22:23

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That lake in Siberia is the biggest
Lake Baikal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Royboy39 20-08-2008 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 621597)
Careful there bud, if you keep painting such rosy pictures an English Armada full of limeys will be on its way to sunny Spain .... ;) Spain sounds ok, but it's kind of small and full of people who don't speak English (kinda like Quebec, eh:D) ... and no winters to speak of .... and that Med thing, not much bigger than a great lake is it:rolleyes:

An English Armada full of limeys has already invaded Spain....No winters to speak of Ok, agree......Full of people who dont speak English....disagree.
The Med........beautiful and clear, I can see it when I awake in the morning......Great Lake...where is that? Queens Park?

cashman 20-08-2008 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 621686)
I think that you will find that you could lose all the five great lakes plus all the others in Canada in the Med and still have room for some more.

bigger or not,the meds a damn site warmer, says cashy who has dipped a foot in both.:D

jaysay 21-08-2008 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 621507)
Bullsh** n exocet wouldn't hurt your feelings.:D

No but it would make mi toe nails curl up:D

Eric 21-08-2008 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 621706)
An English Armada full of limeys has already invaded Spain....No winters to speak of Ok, agree......Full of people who dont speak English....disagree.
The Med........beautiful and clear, I can see it when I awake in the morning......Great Lake...where is that? Queens Park?

Yup ... I've passed out on a beach a few times myself:D

Eric 21-08-2008 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 621707)
bigger or not,the meds a damn site warmer, says cashy who has dipped a foot in both.:D

But not at the same time, eh:eek: And I was wondering where all the pollution came from.;)

Eric 21-08-2008 19:45

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This is a semi-serious question for Royboy: You have made your home in Spain; what do you consider yourself, English or Spanish? I moved to Canada, love the place, and I consider myself Canadian through and through .... I've been here for 40 yrs; I'm Canadian and proud of it. How do you feel?:confused:


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