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I agree with most of what Lilly remembers there was some trouble between Carla and the govenors. The only thing was the parents were unaware that the after school club was not going to be running when the kids went back to school(or should I say Carla was no longer running it?) One of the parents wrote a letter to the Observer saying the report they printed was the first she knew about it.

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whats that one that reports people that have been abducted by elvis?

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Now you've mentioned it on here, expect it to be the lead story in this weeks Observer :D

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lol.... is it the enquirer?

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No, was actually Lisa Kenyon, the news editor .. a member on here .. can always p.m. her if you wish to tell her about the poo she writes... :D

Why don't you all leave this lass alone now, and let her get on with improving her facilities... obviously, are problems, which she will have to rectify or face closure ... let's hope she does with a more favourable report in September.

She does not appear to be shying away from the criticism at least.

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Which is fair enough, I just dont like being told what I can and cant talk about

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sorry Kate, that looked like I was aiming that at you! I wasnt! lol

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why PM Lisa Kenyon? i will say it straight yer paper is garbage. n was before she became news editor, so aint n attack on her, used to be a great local paper, now its on a par with the sun. reporting is about as accurate as the burnley forward line.

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Sorry but don't think any members have been out of order on this thread, they were just commenting on an OFSTED report that put a nursery in a bad light. Then they were insulted for disscussing it. Well tough, it is a public forum to discuss issues that we feel the need discussing. In fact most people have wished the nursery well!!!

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Everbody has their own opinion and if we didnt it would be very boring. I can totally understand from both sides as i am very close to Carla. I know the nursery and when i read the OFSTED report it was very harsh and not a comfortable read. Thanx to those who have sent messages of good luck. Things can only get better xxx

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I dont think theres a single person on here that doesnt hope that

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Are you replying for me as well? I said before if the inspector found something unsafe they should have shut down the nursary until it is sorted out.




So it has nothing to do with making money then? ;)

I found this part of the report bad - The kitchen is used as a walkway for children to access the outdoor area where sharp implements are easily accessible in an open tray.

Why an earth would any children be allowing in the kitchen area? This must be asking for accidents to happen. What about hygiene as well?

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Neil, do you not hope that things get better then?????

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Hi, I am the Deputy Manager of Dolli Dimples- the Death Trap Nursery you have all been discussing! I have tried ever so hard to refrain from getting involved in this pointless/clueless online banter, but could restrain myself no longer, as it is not only the Manager and the Nursery that the majority of you are slating, it is also a reflection of my hard work that I put into taking care of the children and the Nursery itself. I have not just been doing this for the past 10 months that the setting has opened, my hard work began 18 months ago when the Nursery began to establish!

I think people are missing the main point- the report has been contested and is being investigated. So therefore, YES, some comments are untrue (lies)!

Who in their right mind lets children play in the kitchen with sharp implements? especially people who are trained to work with children!! All four being on shift that day.

Good point- why weren't we shut down?? Once again because points of the report are untrue (lies)! that's why we are open!! :)

And just to clarify- yes we had a registration inspection before we opened. We are also continuously inspected by other bodies such as environmental health, the local fire department, and local educational authority (we have had 5 visits from them).

Oh and another point, we had a "Spot Check" visit from an OFSTED inspector last week, which funnily enough we passed!! How strange!!:eek:

Evidently, some of you don't have a clue what running or working in a nursery entails.

Thanks Danielle Beech xx:do-one:

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OMG!!!! I think you'll find that it was me that said you must have passed the assesment to open and that you would also be assessed by other agencies... we are going off what OFSTED have said, an agency that is there to protect children. I also said I have been assesed by OFSTED as a childminder and as part of a school i worked at. so yes! i do understand about OFSTED and i do not understand why an inspector would lie!

congratulations on passing the spot test, you havenet been closed down and thats a good sign, you have been given a chance to fix the problems outlined in the report, IF its not true then that will be easy wont it?

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I think anyone who had such a bad report would pull their socks up and sort themselves out, so no it is neither funny, or strange

As many have said, hope the improvement carries on and good luck in the future

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At least you admit it is a death trap, now pull your finger out and make it safe for the kiddies.

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Evidently you don't have a clue,that people with kids have a Right to be concerned after reading such a report. and as for slating, most have wished the place well, yer hard work obviously does not reflect public relations training, can well understand ya being upset,but sometimes its wise to think before opening yer gob.

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according to her profile dannielle is 19 which means she has been a qualified nursery nurse for a year....... im surprised that is enough experience to be a deputy manager.

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Well Done Danielle, I think you have actually managed to eliminate any good that Claire and Carla may have done. Thankfully you have used your last name as well, so I know who to avoid in the future.

Mistakes can be corrected, attitude unfortunately sticks

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I would like to comment on emamum23's post. I am only 19, so what? Due to my own knowledge (BRAINS), dedication and the GREAT continuous support from my Manager- Carla (who has 2 children herself), I was able to pass both my Level 2 and Level 3 in Child Care, Learning and Development in under 2 years. I have attended several short courses regarding child care to further my knowledge, and am due to start my level four in September, followed by my level 5, then B.A! (Gosh feel like I'm in an interview lol)! Therefore, qualified enough for management, if not over qualified!!

With reference to those who refer to OFSTED being the people you trust and listen to, both myself, other staff members and parents of the setting find it rather worrying that you trust what OFSTED say so much (although they are only present for 2 days in 3 years),instead of trusting the Childcare Professionals that you chose to leave your children with. (Some 50 hours per week)!!

Well must go, just planning for next week- its running in the road exercise, knife throwing and fire starting!! WOO HOO!!!! :D

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you have a level 3, a years experience and a few top up courses.... congratulations, you are actually less qualified than me!

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This is the Pre School my son has just left,

Now this is what a report should be like!
Esporta

Or are OFSTED lying and I should really believe that they let them play with knives and left the younger ones in dirty nappies? Hmmm

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Glad you can make light from this damning report and peoples opinions. Perhaps you should recognise the fact that the people commenting on this report have a) mostly tried to be supportive in light of Carla's comments, and b) are the members of the public that are talking openly and letting you know our opinions. You can guarentee we are not the only people in Accrington that are concerned about the reports. However, we are the ones that you have the opportunity of discussing your side of it with. I personally would have taken this opportunity as your boss seemed to have), rather than use your attitude to wind people up even further.

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I think you should speak to your manager [Carla] before seriously coming on a forum spouting off about her business [she was handling it & doing a much better job politely], congrats that u have childcare qualifications not a doubt but seriously think any management is way above you & are therefore not qualified in any management skills nor have proper experience so which it shows. Therefore i'd worry about your job rather than a forum atm! As many parents come on this forum & want advice or is seeking good nursery care, you have placed Dolli Dimples is a precarious situation that despite even the ofsted report, the attitude of senior staff [other than owner so far] have jaded the possibility of encouraging new business or even business that you have already in serious jepordary. As qualifications are essential but after reading the response from the Ass manager Danielle, i think a few yrs experience & bit more life exp is a must too for that position & as an ass manager u need to accept responsibility also, not blame a forum, yr customers or potential customers - u have a duty & responsibility !!

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I am only 19, so what? -- well it shows thats what! how to win friends n influence people. yer boss while under obvious stress,has come on here n put her point of view very well, and also gained good wishes n respect, you should bear that in mind, while you may be undoing her good work. i would send you on a public relations coarse n hope ya actually picked some of it up.;)

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thats the best laugh ive had in this thread so far, how pathetic is that statement?

OFSTED are government officials, i'd trust them 100% more than i would trust a childish 19 year old

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I would trust a 9 year old more than SOME government officials... :eek:

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has this thread not died on its arse yet ?
I wandered past yesterday and they looked like they were having a fab time.

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Playing circus knife throwers? :D

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lol actually they were playing chicken in the road

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Have we heard the outcome yet ? i thought it was going to be sorted by friday ?

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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this today. :confused:

There was an article in today's Observer stating that the ofsted report in question has been partially upheld, whatever that means. :rolleyes:

A letter sent to the nursery from a regional complaints investigator stated:

1) Comments about staff interaction were harsh

2) Staff portfolios were of a good standard and should have been included

3) The original inspector apologised for the way she had made reference to staff not signing registers and implying that ratios of adults to children were not being met.

4) The reference to children regularly being left in soiled underwear and their noses never being wiped would be removed from the report

5) Children were not left unsupervised in the kitchen

What do you make of this? :confused:

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i read it earlier H, i was quite surprised no one has said owt

i wont believe it till i read the report myself, anyone can say anything to a newspaper to make themselves look good

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Hmmmm. I don't know what to make of it either. :(

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why would OFSTED say something like they said in the first place then retract it? it doesnt make sense, something fishy is going on, can anyone find this 'new' report? has it actually been published?

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It doesn't make sense, does it? :confused:

I have looked on the ofsted site and it is only showing the original report.

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_repo...Y359365_CB.pdf

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We don't know that OFSTED are back-tracking it is just what the manageress is saying. They are due another inspection this month so maybe things will become more clear after that is published

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They have had time to change things so the OFSTED will be OK. I can't understand why they ever tell you when they are coming to inspect - its just stupid.

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My partner is CRB checked to drive kids to school in a taxi WITH an escort. That's not exactly direct. How you can work with children in any context without one is beyond me.

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Does seem a bit pointless:confused:

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Its either bad reporting or bad OFSTEDing........... would like to see the new report.

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Hi there its Carla again. Been some time since i wrote so here goes....Yes the OFSTED report was upheld and re printed and printed in the observer again-but unfortunately not all over the front page, just a paragraph on page 32 or something irrelevent like that!!! I recieved an apology from OFSTED, although to be fair, the damage was already done.
Looking back, its the best thing thats ever happened to me-and although it made me ill at the time-hell, its made me stronger in the long run.
Dolli Dimples will be celebrating its third birthday party in October and i am so proud. I also graduated last summer.We are full in baby unit at the minute and thriving from day to day. My staff team are BRILL, mY PARENTS ARE EXCELLENT AND MY 30 PLUS CHILDREN ARE AMAZING-I LOVE THEM ALL.
What doesnt kill you only makes you stronger.

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Glad you got things sorted Carla and despite all the hassle you have success :D

You're a great person - used to see u a lot when i was on my course for TA up peel park one with cranberry juice for kidney jip lol

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Who is it???? Thanks for that. What goes around, comes around-i'm a true believer in that. Its been tough-but i'm geting there.
I LOVE MY JOB-although challanging, hard work and sometimes unbearable-its also rewarding and worth every minute!!!

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The owner of Doli dimples is Carla Mcloughlin. before she worked at peel park. she used to run after school club at benjamin hargreaves. ive got her on facebook. <3

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Another Accrington business to hit the wall. At least the jobcentre and benefits office will never run out of custom in Accrington :rolleyes:

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Bit off topic i know, but Groove thinks in 10 years the Accy observer will no longer exist. An online version will take its place. This could be beneficial if the page is run by local journalists, but Groove will miss the great institution of the Observer which is has been part of Fridays for as long as he an remember.

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How will this online version pay for itself?
Currently the paper copy will pay the costs for the online version.

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Groove thinks advertising, and maybe a small fee...50p would cover it, considering the savings made on printing paper, delivery costs etc....Groove believes the internet will be the worlds most important way of putting the news out, and could be updated by the minute instead of waiting weekly for the Observer...Groove thinks this is the inevitable way forward.

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One of the great things about online newspapers is that readers can have their say about an article by posting their own comments....some of them are hilarious!!

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Love the telegraph for that steve, that's the LT, get some real laughs especially in the footy section

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Neil thinks it will be quite a few years before that happens because no one has yet found a good model to base online subscriptions and advertisements on.

Neil can't think of an online paper that is not mainly funded by its paper copy.

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I agree with that Neil, don't know the figures, but I not longer bother with the Telegraph, I think they have about four different rates for online readers, but I don't need to read a newspaper that badly to pay a fee for the privilege, after all there is enough news outlets on TV, which we already pay for through the licence fee or subscriptions