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I've just been browsing through the Accy Observer online and came across an article on the OFSTED report of a local nursery that had resulted in the nursery being given warnings. The newspaper report didnt seem so bad, but (being nosy) I looked on the actual Ofsted reports online and its disgraceful....

Plympton Montessori Nursery & Kids Club

Is this bad reporting on the side of the Observer?

Do any Accywebbers use this nursery??

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Not sure why the link is giving a different establishments name, the link does go through to the right report tho lol

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now dont quote me on this but....isnt the woman who runs the place a member of accyweb? i'm sure when the place was opening she was sorta advertising it on here


when you click the link it says dolli dimples

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yeah, dolli dimples is the right name

Not sure if shes a member of accy web or not. I was quite surprised how different the two reports were. The Ofsted report makes it sound a death trap, where as the Observer seems to give the impression thats not so bad

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You're right Flashy, I remember her coming on. She used to do the after school club at Peel Park school and I remember her coming on here when she was opening the nursery.

That report must have been upsetting for anyone whose child attends that nursery.

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this bit amazed me...

Protecting children from harm or neglect and helping them stay safe
The provision is inadequate. Children's safety is compromised because hazards are inadequately identified and minimised and proper precautions are not taken to prevent accidents. Children under two years crawling around in the room for children over two years have access to high chairs stacked against the wall, a large fan being used to maintain an adequate temperature and inappropriate objects strewn all over the floor. These include broken crayons, pens and bits of paper from a previous cutting activity. The kitchen is used as a walkway for children to access the outdoor area where sharp implements are easily accessible in an open tray. Food given to children under two years is not cooled to an appropriate temperature and staff fail to notice the steam coming out of the dish as toddlers scoop the spoon into the centre before putting it to their mouth. An accident is averted because of the intervention of the inspector. The safety of children under two years is not considered when they access the outdoor area at the same time as children over two years; toddlers sit in or crawl around the small area with no suitable activities whilst older children run around and manoeuvre wheeled toys.








if i had a child there it wouldnt be there very long, i hope that the parents of these children have read this report

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I wonder if the owner will come on and defend herself.

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The whole thing worried me!! I think its scary for all parents, you never know what is going on at the childcare providers, and you have to trust strangers to look after your kids.

My son went to a nursery. We had a few incidents, the most serious of which, where somehow he managed to get hold of some anti bacterial wash, unscrew the lid, and drink it!!! He was about 18 months old at the time, so the whole task would have taken some time in doing. Soon after i moved to him to a childminder who had cared for him so much better.

Think some nurseries are just profit related. Another worrying part of the report was that there was no proof as to which staff worked when, so were the kid to adult ratios met??

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This bit confused me :-

"The nursery currently supports children who speak English as an additional language" Funny way of putting things. :rolleyes:

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My god! Just that part of the report that Flashy put up is enough to frighten me!!

My daughter attends Peel Park so is bound to know the owner if she ran the after school club

My youngest went to nursery, 3 times I went into him sitting on the floor crying
(They were given the benefit of the doubt twice)
3rd time, he never went back, he was only 6 months old

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all very P.C hey Kate

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Have to say, can't imagine ever sending my children to a nursery that's in shop premises on a town centre street - got to wonder what fresh air they'd ever get.

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That crossed my mind too, Gayle.

I wondered where they played.

The report did say that the children like playing outside so they must have a play area at the back....can't be very big though, can it? :confused:

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if children are polish/asian/arabic or basically do not speak english a a first language at home than english is classed as a additional language -i suppose that this is one plus if they are being supported as it is often hard for children for whom english isnt a first language to settle at a nursery .

I dont know what to think about this report - it doesnt sound as if the actions are maliciously being done - it looks like a nursery that has been opened without proper planning and perhaps too many children were enrolled at the start leaving not much time for planning and adjustment
I remember thinking i was seeing things when i saw this place on warner street as it does seem an odd place for a nursery.

Perhaps the owner thought it was a good place for a start up and were planning to move to bigger premises - what seems good on paper doesnt always work out in reality.
Good luck to them lets hope they are working hard to put things right. x

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i dont know how it all works for a nursery but i do know if that was a primary school then they would have been put in 'special measures' and given a certain amount of months to buck their ideas up before the next inspection otherwise they would be shut down

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dunno if its just during the hols but they took all the kids to little treasures last week.... that reports awful! I wouldnt send my kid there!

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...les-32977.html

There The Thread.

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Claire Cal is not the owner, think she just knows the woman who is. They now have till September to sort things out before another inspection

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Are you sure that this report is about a modern day Nursery in Accrington and not a Romanian Orphanage..............:( having a child of pre school age this makes grim reading.

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I got a different impression. I wonder how many of the staff are young and with minimum qualifications.
I also wonder how children with English as an additional language (interesting that they use the word additional not second) are supported. There are a number of implications here but I do not think we should pursue them without further knowledge

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Spoken like a true Brit ;)
Why would it have to be their second language? If they knew two others- how do you decide what order they go in?

Most people in Amsterdam speak Dutch, German, French and English. Which one would be their second language?

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It doesnt work like that... by law there HAS to be a certain amount of each qualification level ( i cant think of the ratio off the top of my head) so there must be there right amount of level 3's for the nursery to be open. It doesnt sound like they take on students as the tutors have to visit the nursery so they would have been reported earlier for this..

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Polly is quite right the staff are young well the ones i came into contact whom were working there were, tho would probably be on day release at college or recently qualified i presume & would be CRB checked by law.

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Staff have to be fully qualified.. students are crb checked.

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One positive of the OFSTED report is that there were an adequate number of level 3 employees etc.

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Not always, as long as u have experience of working with young children is also considered with a crb which maybe within the criteria dependant on how direct u are working within the environment.

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the unqualified ones work with the qualified ones....... you still have to have the right amount of qualified ones.

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In the late 60s my son went to an LCC nursery.
Then they were for use by working mums, and not the haven for abused/neglected children, which they later became.
I do not know whether they still operate.
The 'qualification' for working in them was a 2 year full time training college course in Nursery Nursing.
It appears that standards have slipped a lot since then.

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I also think that part of the problem is a lack of proper education. Once of a day as you point out nursery nurses had to do two years full time training. Seems to me that standards are slipping.

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2 years full time or on the job training and college one night a week.... the one night a week option is only for mature students that can prove they have some experience already....the length of time you go one night a week depends on your experience and any qualifications you already have..... can be 1-3 years. Until you are fully qulified you are classed as a student so cant be left alone with the children.

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The difference between now and then -
until you had qualified you weren't allowed through the door!

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It appears that something isn't being done right at this nursery when even basic hygiene standards are not being followed. Doesn't seem like the training is working. Then again you shouldn't have to be trained to wash your hands after using the toilet. Seems common sense isn't being used either:o

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Again therectical but not always the case, it depends on where u work, job type & who u work for as to their policies regarding their H&S guidelines etc having worked in the industry.

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Think then you did day release from college, you had to have practical experience but it was monitored much more strictly.

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ah... now you wont get a job without experience so all students do work experience..... you cant know how to look after children from reading a book and doing assignments, children dont work like that, you need to be around them.

who would you trust? An 18 year old thats just finished college and already has 800 hours work experience, has learnt on the job and has 1st hand experience of caring for children, feeding them, changing nappies etc or an 18 year old thats just come out of college with no experience and has only bottle fed and changed the nappy of a doll and has learnt everything from books?

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True em, & thats why i said yr earlier post was therectical no critism meant, u do need the both hand in hand & be the best employable:D

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Its illegal for them not to have the right staff! no matter about anything else, if its a nursery then they have to...

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I don't agree with 'learning on the job'
It equates to 'learn from mistakes'
The thorough 2 years full time was instruction in child health, psychology, nutrition and safety.
I am glad that my child was not exposed to the 'learning mistakes' of others.

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so how about nurses? should they learn from books as well? and then at the end of the training the inexperienced nurses are inflicted on the patients... can you learn to give an injection from a book?

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The difference between nursing adults and nursing children is that the adults know when basic hygiene standards and safety practices are being flouted, and can object, children accept bad practices as the norm.
Nurses in hospitals have to do general nursing before working in pediatrics, so have (hopefully) already been instilled with these basics.

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The hygiene has nothing to do with the training, its the dirty people that work there EVERYONE knows they should wash their hands after the toilet and before and after preparing food, they just choose not to...

hand washing is one of the first things students are taught in both child care practice and child health.

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Well obviously this lot haven't taken that lesson on board. Why would people need to be taught basic hygiene in the first place??

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I had health and safety training when I managed a public building.
It amazed me how intelligent adults placed themselves at risk by their practices, because the implications had not even entered their heads. 'Common sense' was not enough - safety needs to be taught.

This report shows that those working at that nursery had not had any in depth health and safety training.

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Just to be on the safe side, theres a technique lol..... Im saying its the people not the training.


I dont think midwifes do any other nursing before they work... I can go onto uni to do midwifery if i want.

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Ideal - no practice until theory has been learnt :)

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Could be wrong and am sure Marg Pilkington will correct me if I am but thought you did basic training and then went on to choosen areas with nursing. If that is not how it works now could possibly be another area that needs redressing IMO.

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Don't agree, how can you learn about working on a ward without being in the situation?

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I have a friend that wanted to be a teacher... she went to college, did her alevels, went to uni.. qualified as a reception teacher..... THEN realised that she had no idea what she was doing and didnt like the age group... she then retrained and is now a music teacher in a high school.... IF she had had some on the job training she would hae already known that and wouldnt have wasted so much time.

Just because it works in theory doesnt mean it works in practice. children dont follow childcare books!

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From my own experience we cannot rely on people having common sense, so the basic health and safety practices need to be taught.

You cannot rely on 'on the job' training to do that - they just adopt the sloppy practices of the people who 'trained' them.

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for the 2 year course you do a week at college and a week in placement.. you are taught the things you need to know in college and you practice them at placement.

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I thought that was the case too.

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Myra Hindley as a 16 year old could have left school, go to college study for a couple of years and then got the relevant qualification to work in a nursery

Most young girls can 'romaticise' the job as well, working with children; kinda like animals, sounds great, bloody hard work in reality.

It is up to the Manager to make sure that standards are kept, employess know what the are doing and meant to do. Not only should the basics, but a learning programme and activities for throughout the day. Kids get bored easily but have a need to learn. They enjoy it too.

The fact that the children in the nursery seem to be left to 'fester' should be the reason for most parents to be concerned

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I used to teach the children a song to wash their hands to - it made it enjoyable for them and gave them a "sense of time" as to how long they washed their hands for
always worked well

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that sounds like good old common sense, so long as ya didn't teach em the old Brook Brothers number- I Aint Gonna Wash For A Week.:D;)

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If it is that unsafe and an inspector had to prevent an accident the place should be shut down until the issues are corrected.

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After reading every post it has been made perfectly clear no one who has commented has a child that attends this nursery. I have read both the OFSTED report and the newspaper and I have a 4 year old that attends full time. I would assume that you would all have the full facts before commenting in such a way which clearly not one of you has. The report has been complained about as much of it was very untrue, my son does wash his hands after going to the toilet and is always changed straight away if he has an accident. The few problems which the owner held her hands up to in the Observer were carried out by a member of staff that was subsequently sacked. She then very maliciously went to the Observer. I would also like to point out that when my child goes to primary school in September we will both be very sorry to leave such a happy environment. Ask anyone who's child does attend this nursery or go and take a look for yourselves

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Are you saying the OFSTED reporter told lies?

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Think you'll find that the very first post is asking if any accy webbers children attend the nursery, and asking for their comments.

No one is attacking the children (or parents for that matter) with regards to either the observer or Ofsted report. As parents, one of the biggest worries is how out children are looked after when we are not there.

However, it doesnt matter if the sacked member of staff 'maliciously' went to the papers or not, the Ofsted report is freely available on the internet and the reports findings are serious enough to comment on.

I'm glad you are happy with the treatment of your child, but your child is old enough to tell you if they have a good or bad day.

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So now its up to the schools to teach toilet training as well ? :eek: :eek:

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as the first post asked the question if any accywebber had a child that went there,it also asked if it was "Bad Reporting" i reckon there is n ulterior motive to yer post, i would assume that you read it.

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We took our children out of a nursery when we moved to Accrington, they then attended first class childcare, the care wasnt as good, we had several issues, and were promised a refund which never materialised, we moved the kids to a childminder and have noticed the difference, unfortunately, first class childcare are more interested in money than children.

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Which First Class was it, Derek? The one on Cannon Street? I don't have any knowledge of that one.

I don't know what your issues were but First Class have several nurseries and it's not fair to slag them as a group.

I have always used First Class Dill Hall, just off Dill Hall Lane.

I've used them for 7 years, still use holiday club. I can't praise them enough. The manager and staff are excellent. I am very happy with the care, both children have always been happy there and the nursery has always got excellent Ofsted reports.

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I looked at first class nursery on Canon Street for my son. I dont like the ratios of adults to young children. Ended up happiest with a chidminder that looked after one other the child. She treated my son as one of the family, with Christmas and Birthday presents, parties etc. I was aways more than happy with the service she gave, especially as her attention was only split between the two children, she had more flexibility to go out to places and day trips etc

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My grandaughter used to attend the one on Pickup Street in Clayton, albeit part time .. when my daughter's shifts clashed with my working hours. Couldn't grumble with the care she got, however, think the nursery may have changed hands to First Class in the last 10 years ... so my observations could well be irrelevant.

I have looked at other reports for nurseries in our area, and against these the report on Dolli Dimples does present pretty dire reading. Did notice that there are lots of varying inspectors involved in these reports, and maybe some ascend to higher standards than others. All in all, that is what Ofsted is all about, they are there to help and advise establishments which are not coming up to standards, not to close them down. So hopefully, the proprietor will no doubt address these criticisms leveled at her nursery, and can only be for the good. If she doesn't, then will be curtains for her business, which I am sure she does not want.

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The nursery I referred to was pickup street, but some of my complaints were aimed at management/ownership, so it was fair to generalise.

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Unfortunately, the OFSTED report is pretty d*mning. I wouldn't consider this place, let alone spend time and petrol money checking it out myself in case OFSTED have lied :confused:. The whole reason for publishing OFSTED reports is to allow public to make informed decisions when we don't really have any other way to form an opinion.

The only way your post would make sense would be if you could imply that the OFSTED inspector had some other reason for giving such a bad report. However, you haven't given any indication as to how that might be true.

What's particularly worrying is that the childcare facility is below an acceptable standard an every measured criterion. I know that (unlike schools) they get no useful warning of an imminent inspection, however I do think that the staff might have made some increased effort while the inspector is there. They either didn't, which makes them incompetent, or did, which means things there are probably worse than the report would suggest.

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Hi all! My name is Carla McLoughlin -the nursery owner youve all been talking about! thought i'd send a post -not to defend or justify myself-but just to clarify a few specifics for you all :)
I opened Dolli Dimples as my passion has always been children. I have two myself-age 6 and 2.
The OFSTED report was disapointing and i hold my hands up to some of the points raised (which have now been actioned). Both myself, and the staff team are very unhappy with many of the points raised. What the Observer failed to mention was that the report has been challenged by myself (formally) and is currently being investigated. Also not mentioned is the fact that after a staff embers employment was terminated (as a result of the OFSTED inspection), we have had numerous OFSTED 'spot checks,' following complaints made to them- all passed accordingly.
Of course ratios are always met and adhered to, and under no circumstances are children left in 'soiled underpants.'- i'm a mother for goodness sake!
Over two thirds of my staff are qualified and experienced (above the legal 50% requirement). i hold a level four qualification in childcare and am currently studying for my degree at uni.
The inspector fails to mention many positives that were commented on during the inspection, but i have to be professional and liase with OFSTED appropriately and by adhering to the correct procedures.
We are a brand new nursery-only open ten months! We haven't been established long at all and dont claim to be perfect. What we are is unique, safe, secure and happy!!! :) If parents dont want to send their child to Dolli Dimples, then thats thier perogative- there are many other nurseries in the area.
The child with an additional language is referred to as such because this is the terminology used by OFSTED.
Just for the record-we have a beautiful, covered outdoor area with built in sand pit and mark making boards. We play out every single day, in all weathers-and the children love it :)
Also, ive not been on this web site before until today. I am not a profit related business as yet- i currently take no wage for the long hours i work (though like everyone, i do have bills and a mortgage to pay). its my first year of business, so i dont expect to-as with any new business. Any extra money made goes straight into the nursery-for example, trips to Little Treasures.

I just want to thank my fantastic supportive family, and the loyal staff team for their recent support. Plus, the loyal parents and friends-you know who you are :)
Think ive covered everything. Any other questions????
oh, and just in case youv'e been following-the trial for my case against Peel Park is next month too-something else for you all to comment on :) x

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Carla

I am -pleased you decided to come on the forum and answer the criticism. It can not be an easy time for you. It is good that you have some support and I hope that you manage to come through this painful time for you. From what you say it is apparent that you have the childrens interests at heart and I am sure that as long as you remain in control and continue to put the children first you will come through it all.



Try not to let other people worry you and try to always generate your own positive press.

Good luck

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I would like to add (seeing as though i have been mentioned earlier) that Dolly Dimples is a very well run, organised and energetic nursery, that caters for all needs. The children do not eat boiling hot food, run around with dirty bums or for that matter fail to wash their hands after going to the toilet. They certainly do not have access to knives in the kitchen or for that matter spend enough time in their to know where they are. They make out in the report that children are readily playing with them in the kitchen. I found the report a very nasty read but i know that alot of the points werent right. Ofsted made a moutain out of a mole hill and if it were my business i think i would be upset and rightly. Carla is a very strong individual and she will fight until it gets put right. All the problems that Ofsted have said arent right she has sorted out. Lets just hope when she gets a glowing report in 6 months time that there will be as much of a commotion about it!!!!!!

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i certainly hope she comes out on top of this, but ya never answered an earlier question by neil, are you saying OFSTED are telling lies?

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Well, I will look forward to the new report with great interest. I hope, for both the owners, more importantly the children that attend the nursery, that glowing reports are given.

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It was me that mentioned you Claire just to clarify that you were not the owner of the nursery. You can hardly blame people for commenting on a report that was published in the local newspaper and saying quite rightly so given the contents of the report that they would not be happy to send their child there.
Hope that the report set for September is more favourable towards the nursery but can somebody actually clarify that the OFSTED inspector was lying in their observations??

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patience is a virtue. Just come off the phone to OFSTED who are investigating it-as previously stated.THERE ARE THINGS IN NURSERIES WHICH ARE CLASSED AS CONFIDENTIAL AND I CANT GO AROUND TYPING INFORMATION ON THE WEB UNTIL IT IS IN MY HAND IN BLACK AND WHITE.Therefore, watch this space :)

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Fair point cashy.

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I think like others have said,
everyone will be happy if the nursery gets a glowing report next time.

None of us want it to be bad, especially where children are involved

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You're not having much luck are you?

First all the trouble with Peel Park and now this.

I hope you get things sorted out with Ofsted.

People trust Ofsted, they have to.

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thats just what i was thinking cashy

in my experiences with ofsted (being a former parent governor and vice chair on the pta) ofsted are really thorough in their investigations, there is NO WAY ofsted are wrong in that report, i'm sorry but it just doesnt happen, Intack where ofsteded a couple of years ago and put into special measures, luckily within a matter of months they sorted themselves out and came out with a better inspection...

in my opinion what ofsted say goes, people can try to deny the fact but there is just no denying the truth when it comes to childrens safety

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Well said Flashy

Incidentally, what was the problem going on with Peel Park?

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i suppose its kinda like doing a lie detector test and then saying the lie detector test is lying



dunno what happened with Peel Park, Lilly knows

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yeah suppose it is only the difference here is it ain't a lie detector????? its one inspector and five staff members and numerous parents??? like ive said, i will know on Friday and be sure to let all you gossips know! :)

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I only know what I remember reading in the local papers at the time.

If I remember correctly Carla McLoughlin started the after school club and ran it for a time and then the governors of Peel Park wanted her out without giving her or the parents much notice.

That's all I remember.

Carla can correct me if needed. That's just what I remember reading about the situation.

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I'd hardly call members of the community commenting on a newspaper article and relevant Government report 'gossiping'.

I'm sure you wouldnt call it such if positive comments were being made,which if you had taken the time to look through the site, you will find many favourable reviews and comments on local services and businesses.

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well lets be honest here, ya can call people gossips or whatever you want, what happened at your place has given people who have kids a RIGHT to be concerned, you may not like that,but it is fact. hope it turns out well fer ya, but yer a fool if ya think people will not be talking.

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the report is to be believed, no matter what, you cant go denying the facts that have been found out, the person reported on what they saw, is that not fact? or was the person telling lies?


oh and excuse me but this is a forum called ACCRINGTON WEB arent we allowed to discuss things happening in and around ACCRINGTON? things that have been made public knowledge by the newspapers?

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course you are just maybe sometimes think about the things that you write and how it affects people. we're only human. Plus, you know no facts regarding this matter at all. If everything that people said bothered me i'd of packed it in before now. I just feel that people should refrain from comment on issues that they know nothing about thats all. Do you have any children? just wondered?

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That makes it sound like no one should believe what OFSTED has written regarding the nursery

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I'm sorry but its very hard to believe that an OFSTED inspector made things like this up!!
Before you ask, yes i have had experience of OFSTED.

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Didnt say it was made up, i said many aspects of it were being investigated. WHICH THEY ARE. You may of had experience with OFSTED, but every inspector and experience is different. I dont want to get into a heated debate with people who dont know me and i dont know them. thanks for all your comments and opinions. I will keep people informed

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I hope you soon get the problems ironed out, and can get on with running your business.

Can I ask, did you go to the Observer, or did they contact you?

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thanks :)
i terminated a member of staffs employment following the inspection, and she has given it to observer-amongst other things!!

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Nice one.:eek:

Good luck.:)

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thank you. its nice to know other people are human and live in the real world! :)

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Yes I think that every single person that has commented on this has children, but i'm not sure what difference that makes?

At the end of the day, the original post asked about the reporting discrepancies between the Observer and the Ofsted report, and asked if any members had children in the nursery that could comment.

People are commenting on a report using examples that are given in writing by a Government official, be it biased or not. Thats called freedom of speech. People have also wished you luck for the next report, so I think thats more than fair

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Sorry Lady , But if I was a parent of a young child I would expect the nursery/childminder to be up to scratch from Day 1 and not to be operating on a ten month learning curve while figuring out how to run a business :confused: :confused:

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Im assuming the nursery provision was up to scratch 10 months ago cos OFSTED should have inspected them before they opened..............

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thats a bit like the health dept. inspecting a restaurant before they start serving food , the facilities might be good , but a bit pointless if Typhoid Mary is the cook :eek:

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when i was inspected as a childminder the inspector quizzed you about everything and checked your house from top to bottom before you were registered.. atcollege we were told that it was the same for nurserys.. they have to checked by ofsted and various other people before they are allowed to open.

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It's not like the Observer to print one-sided stories regarding how badly somebody has been treated. :rofl38:

Can we guess who the reporter was ? :rolleyes:

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nutty butty reporter!!!! she is ace i love her....

reports a big pile of poo tho.

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Ah right, the peoples champion. She will be too good for the Observer soon and get promoted to the Daily Star or The Sun :cool: