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Jambutty said that 'Blackburn has 17 councillors out of 69 councillors with immigrant sounding names'
I thought it would be interesting to apply his skewed logic to our own council, here in Hyndburn. It appears we have at least two councillors with 'immigrant sounding names'. Both Cllr. Jones, and Cllr. Roberts, sound suspiciously Welsh, and if the logic was to be stretched even further I might suggest that the two councillors were practicing Methodists, who were using their political power to force their religion on the unsuspecting public. :rolleyes::D |
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What a load of nonsense. At school/college anybody fasting would do just that, they didn't need hand holding by the rest of the people who weren't fasting.
Perhaps the fasting councillors should just have a word with the non-fasting ones to tell them to not eat their food. It sounds like a school playground, not a group of people supposed to be running the borough services at the taxpayers expense. |
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Hitler’s mob didn’t take over Germany in one day. It took them years where bit by bit they weedled themselves into positions of authority until they were strong enough to take over. Did the fifth columnists in Europe during the last war announce to the Germans that they would throw them out of the country? No! They went about their normal daily lives, smiled sweetly as they served the Germans in the shops and cafes until the call came to take positive action. The Muslim community do not need to make special demands. They have got the PC brigade running so scared that the PC lot are doing it for them. |
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So every Muslim I come into contact with (including the Muslim members of this site) is part of a large-scale conspiracy to take over this country? Oh well, that's your point of view and you're entitled to it...personally, I don't buy it...and I certainly wouldn't class myself as a PC merchant!
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If left to their own devices 99% of Muslims would just live out their lives in harmony with the rest of us. It is the minority of hard liners who are pushing for an Islamic state in every country that they emigrate to. But these hard liners know, that as the 99% are DEVOUT Muslims, when push comes to shove they will fall into line. Of course there will always be exceptions but they will be few and far between and are prepared to be ostracised. For hundreds of years the Vatican kept the followers of the Roman Catholic faith in a grip of iron until Henry VIII broke the shackles. Even thereafter the Vatican controlled the lives of millions of people around the world and still does so right to this day – not in the western world so much but in Africa and S America. In his “Rivers Of Blood” speech back in April 1968 Enoch Powell stated, “In fifteen or twenty years, on present trends, there will be 3,500,000 Commonwealth immigrants and their descendants”. He went on to say “Whole areas, towns and parts of towns across England will be occupied by different sections of the immigrant and immigrant descended population”. I understand that there are barely 2 million Muslims in the UK today. 30 years ago there were nary a one. Are parts of towns across England occupied by different sections of the immigrant and immigrant descended population? You have to admit that there are. The only wrong part of that prediction is the time scale and probably the number. It has taken 30 odd years not 15 to 20. Read his speech at http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/powell_press.htm At the time Enoch Powell was branded a racist and lost his place on the Shadow Cabinet but subsequent events have proved him right. |
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Hang on Jambutty are we talking about Muslims?...at no time does Enoch Powell mention "Muslims" in the speech.. he does mention "Negros" many times... "in 15-20 years time the black man will hold the whip hand over the white man".. not very well chosen words from a man you tell us was not racist!... the speech in full is here...Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech - Telegraph
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It depends what you mean by "devout". Just because a Muslim follows his religion devoutly does not necessarily mean that he is willing to follow the edicts of the "hardliners". My Muslim mate is devoutly fasting for Ramadan, but he tells me that he regards the hardliners with nothing but contempt (although, of course, he could be lying!).
As for Enoch Powell, it's a pity he didn't think about this in the fifties when he was the Minister of Health and actively encouraging immigrants to come over here to work in the NHS. However, you're right, there are areas where the predominant population is composed of immigrants and their descendants. However, I don't see how that proves that they are planning to "take over". There's an area near me that largely comprises those of West Indian extraction - are they planning to take over, too? I agree that their are parallels to be drawn with pre-war Germany, though - just as Hitler and the Nazis sought to use the Jews as a scapegoat for all that was wrong with the country, so many in the UK are using "immigrants" in a similar way. |
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Still, I suppose if I had to be forced to eat King Prawn & fried Rice I'd struggle on somehow! :) |
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As an atheist I think that if the majority of the population need to believe, then the more religions there are, the better. It reduces the effect on politics of any one of them.
I recall in the days before immigration when the Church of England dominated and there were extremist christians who made Sundays useless and miserable. |
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