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Neil 10-09-2008 07:15

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 629296)
Actually you can throw out a tenant if s/he makes a mess of the rented accommodation, IF the tenancy agreement has provision for such action.

Yes you can but you have to comply with the law when you do it. She must not have or she would have won the case.

blazey 10-09-2008 18:46

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 629349)
Yes you can but you have to comply with the law when you do it. She must not have or she would have won the case.

It is nice to see that someone can understand something so simple :p

cashman 10-09-2008 18:59

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629579)
It is nice to see that someone can understand something so simple :p

oh its simple enough to understand,that dont mean i think its right that a jailbird is allowed to use public money.:p

blazey 10-09-2008 19:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 629585)
oh its simple enough to understand,that dont mean i think its right that a jailbird is allowed to use public money.:p

The only cost to the public would be the cost of the hearing. If she had followed the law in the first place it wouldn't have even happened. I'm sure her side would probably have been directed to try and settle out of court as well for such a small amount of money.

She has nobody to blame but herself and the people you should all be blaming is her for not using her head. Past debt collector and land lady? Yes I'm sure she's charming... when she wants your money of course. She should have known better.

Eric 10-09-2008 19:59

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As recently as the 12th century, law was "rediscovered" in Bologna. And it is this rediscovery which eventually led to the centralized state, replacing the chaos that followed the collapse of the western empire. This, I know, sounds trivial, and perhaps it is; however, what it leads to is the inescapable conclusion that the State and the Law are inseparable. So, whether or not the law is sometimes asinine is irrelevant; what is important is that it is necessary; and that to be effective, it has to be followed to the letter. Evidently, the woman in question did not consider this.

Of course, we could always re-introduce trial by ordeal, or by combat:rolleyes:

cashman 10-09-2008 20:00

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629594)
The only cost to the public would be the cost of the hearing. If she had followed the law in the first place it wouldn't have even happened. I'm sure her side would probably have been directed to try and settle out of court as well for such a small amount of money.

She has nobody to blame but herself and the people you should all be blaming is her for not using her head. Past debt collector and land lady? Yes I'm sure she's charming... when she wants your money of course. She should have known better.

not disputing that, what i am disputing is simple a piece of crap in jail,like this fellow is should have NO redress to 1 penny of public money. the fact they do does not make it right, thats a point you will not take on board.:mosher:

Eric 10-09-2008 20:23

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629594)
The only cost to the public would be the cost of the hearing. If she had followed the law in the first place it wouldn't have even happened. I'm sure her side would probably have been directed to try and settle out of court as well for such a small amount of money.

She has nobody to blame but herself and the people you should all be blaming is her for not using her head. Past debt collector and land lady? Yes I'm sure she's charming... when she wants your money of course. She should have known better.

I think I have to agree with you. Damnit ... I thought I would never have to say that;):D

WillowTheWhisp 10-09-2008 21:36

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I concede that we have to abide by the law but it's situations like this where people stand back and say "The law is a ass" that leads to laws being repealed amended etc - law is not static.

Mancie 10-09-2008 22:33

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629579)
It is nice to see that someone can understand something so simple :p

I agree that these particular laws and regulations are in place to protect the vast majority of tennents , and thanks for the input of your untold wisdom to point out that most of us are just to fick to agree with you.

MCR ADIM 10-09-2008 22:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 629610)
not disputing that, what i am disputing is simple a piece of crap in jail,like this fellow is should have NO redress to 1 penny of public money. the fact they do does not make it right, thats a point you will not take on board.:mosher:

i agree he should not of, but also they should have no human rights in jail aswell but thats a different topic,

blazey 10-09-2008 23:24

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 629651)
I concede that we have to abide by the law but it's situations like this where people stand back and say "The law is a ass" that leads to laws being repealed amended etc - law is not static.

The law that made that decision is a good one, though it isn't everyday that it's used to protect the rights of rapists. More often I imagine it's used to protect ordinary citizens.

The only reason it made it into the paper is because he's a convicted rapist, hence why it's not in the law pages on the broadsheet papers. It's not even news.

blazey 10-09-2008 23:29

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I'm never going to agree that there should be one set of laws for one group of people and another for people we don't like.

America got round this by building a nice little place in Cuba. I'm sure we could do the same if you really want to start avoiding laws. Though lets bear in mind that the cost to america for cases against them for fale imprisonment in that lovely little place in Cuba costs them far more than it costs for a straight forward tenancy disagreement.

If we're basing it on the matter of cost then we should at least be realistic. Especially when we start getting victims of injustice coming out of prison after being wrongly convicted of a crime and claiming they were in fact innocent, therefore still protected under the same rights as you and I and that they've been tortured day in day out wrongly.

Or we could just treat them like human beings, or at least domestic animals and then at least we don't have to face a very difficult mess when we have wrongly imprisoned people.

Mancie 10-09-2008 23:37

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So Blazey.. I would presume you would like to be a defence lawyer?

blazey 10-09-2008 23:42

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 629705)
So Blazey.. I would presume you would like to be a defence lawyer?

I don't mind which side I work for as long as problems get dealt with. Definitely dealing with civil claims though. I find criminal law boring.

Mancie 10-09-2008 23:54

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629709)
I don't mind which side I work for as long as problems get dealt with. Definitely dealing with civil claims though. I find criminal law boring.

Ah..talking about "sides" so soon into your career..not a good start.you've already put your colours up on your sig.. impartial?


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