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Someone I know has been booked today for not wearing a seatbelt, and During the 'booking procedures' the police now do (DLA etc), he was told that there is a safety purge ongoing in Hyndburn-
seat belts, mobile phone use, tyres, lights etc.
You have been warned!

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was a car clamped on lister street a couple of hours ago, so looks like there doing car tax as well.:)

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We had this a couple of weeks ago, I posted about it, they wanted our driver to produce the necessary licence to carry waste cardboard, rubbish, etc from a customers house to the skip at our office.
I saw a car being booked just off willows lane at 7.20am this morning, was a little silver one with blacked out windows.

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Do you know if there are any plans to extend it to real criminals like muggers, burglars etc :rolleyes:

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think that post should be in the JOKE section, ask mick to move it.:rolleyes:

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if the silver car is who I think it might be lancsdave, they are definately starting in the right place! :eek:

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not being Kreskin,where did this silver car come from derek?:confused:

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theres one at the end of lemonius street thats been clamped by dvla.

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Must be a bit skint,

Best solution - hit the motorist.

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It didnt come from anywhere cashy, was illegally parked, and was being booked, cant remember the street, but just off the top roundabout on willows lane, it wasnt playing any very loud, strange music for a change though!

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Glad Police are booking motorists who don't pay Tax, Insurance, don't wear seat belts, use a mobile phone whilst driving, have defective tyres, etc its not hitting the motorist unfairly just making sure they obey the law

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We spend a lot of money keeping our vehicles roadworthy and legal kitkat, we also spend a substantial amount on replacing stolen property! Never seems to get found though, but one of our drivers was pulled the other day for no infringements, and the van was spot on, that is what irritates me! Go catch the thieving tykes who had us over for 3000 quids worth of equipment a couple of months ago!

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Oh come on derek thats police work,why botther their asses when they can just sit by the road a purscute motorists:rolleyes:

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dad you should of been wearin your seatbelt ,

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You are right but where do you think some of those offences rank in the list of seriousness compared to non-traffic crimes ?

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agree, makes me wonder if kit cat is a motorist.:confused:

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Or in the police force! :eek: :eek:

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Well not having insurance I believe is a criminal offence.
Using a mobile phone is more dangerous than driving while under the influence of drink or drugs.
Defective tyres are dangerous to all.and driving a car with no M.O.T.could be fatal.

Not to bothered about the seat belts.:jimbo:

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I take it you are not a driver then Kitkat.....?

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OK. Margaret - Why warn people. They are breaking the law. If us drivers all did the right thing then the police would be able to spend time on real criminals -or do real criminals not drive.
I am sure that if you had your car written off with an uninsured driver you would be telling the police to go and catch real criminals and not the person who had just hit you.

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I am a driver and completely agree with them hitting the illegal motorist... and when I say that I am thinking lack of insurance being my main issue...how annoyed do you feel when someone does get done for no insurance then only gets a relatively small fine in comparison to how much car insurance costs!!! :mad:

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I am and I think they are doing the right thing.

The only issue I have with it is why the campaign on these things. They should be stopping the illegal drivers all the time.

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I'm a driver and a law abiding one at that. I actually take the view drink drivers should be jailed. What I was getting at is how come they always seem to find the resorces to have purges on drivers yet many other crimes from nuisance yobs to more serious crimes always seem to have no resources. When my 12 yr old daughter was set upon by one of the local thugs at 8.30pm a few months ago how long do you think it took the police to turn up, the answer, they didn't,they kept ringing up to cancel because they didn't have enough resource. We eventually had to make an appointment to see them at 5.30pm the next day.

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They don't bother with illegal parking or obstructing pavements, that appears to be the job of traffic wardens. The job of recording tax and insurance on cars is the domain of the DVLA so why not let them get on with it and let the police do other crime ?

Maybe I'm being too logical :D

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With this warning you will make sure that you observe the rules (for a few weeks at least:rolleyes:)

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don't forget that the majority of these police are the road traffic cops, so their main role is dealing with drivers!

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then why dont they clamp down on UNINSURED DRIVERS? i have no problem with that, nor with people using mobiles when driving, as fer seatbelts, bulbs out, thats trivial to me, n much more serious stuff , they can persue.

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Always amazes me that traffic offences aren't seen as worth spending time on. These plonkers are breaking the law, get fed up of watching them chatting away on their mobiles completely oblivious to what is happening around them!! Maybe it takes a fatality for these offences to be deemed dangerous but can't see anything wrong in targetting drivers who are committing offences.
Before I get asked no I am not a driver but I am a pedestrian whos life could be put in danger because SOME drivers disregard the laws put there for ALL our protection

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dont think anyones saying that bernie, :confused:some offences are very dangerous n should be treated strictly, its when you get n awkward ****** that does ya fer a brake light out, when ya wern't even aware of it, that motorists get brassed off with, as i can testify.:mad:

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Like some taxi drivers who think they are above the law.
Like boy and girl racers at night who think they are the only one's who can drive and everyone else is an idiot.
In towns it would appear that the laws can be broken without fear or favour, on the open roads, let's make some money seems to be the cry.
Do the speed cameras not function at night or our lawmen safely tucked up in bed?

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Exactly HR ... not just the damage to car, but personal injuries ... no compensation from the uninsured drivers it you are put in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

Have you noticed, how it us lady drivers that are supporting the police in this purge .... :rolleyes:

Cashy: I very much doubt that you would get booked for a brake light out ... would be exceptional, like if the rest of your car wasn't roadworthy. Might get stopped for the police to advice you of this fault.

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Last week stood waiting to cross the road 1 lorry and 2 cars went through with their drivers using their mobile phones. Surely they know what the law is - no using of mobile phones while driving unless with a in car kit.

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Irish.............one question........can you drive?

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Yep but a lot of the time when they pull somebody over for a brake light being out it leads to more serious problems being found. Should imagine you and most law abiding people tend to check such things as brake lights whereas these drivers with scant regard for other peoples lifes don't give a toss. It just sometimes feels that the cops are damned either way. If they do nothing they get flak and then when they have a clamp down they also get flak:confused:

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doubt all ya want IT happened in around 1980.:(

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Well, you are exceptional honey ... x :D

1980 !! probably half the cars on the road and twice the police, pro-rata !

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doubt it very much, you just lived a sheltered life.:rofl38:;)

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That is because they have not had a purge on it yet.

The Police are so under manned that they can not uphold all law at the same time. They appear to have these crusading campaigns al the time with a different theme. What we what is a Police force with enough boots on the ground actually doing grass roots Policing to tackle all crime all of the time.

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Spot on neil, and cant give you karma for it, have to spread it around first, I was told several years ago, that in another area, on a friday night, there are 2 policemen to cover around 5 towns, they drafted more in at closing time for the pubs.

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Which further backs up my point that the DVLA could go round the streets clamping untaxed cars. After all it's self funding

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They do.

What happens is the camera van drives around spotting them.
Then a couple of dudes in suits look at them ( not sure why but seen it happen )
Then the clampers turn up with a Police man/woman with them.
If tax not paid in a couple of days then car is lifted and taken away.
If tax and fine not paid within certain time car is crushed.


I find it hard to believe they would crush a valuable car. It would make more sense to sell it to me.

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Do you think the DVLA might have some arrangement with the police Lancsdave, to pay them a certain 'commission' on every 'cop' .. well, something like that ? Or perhaps a contribution to their Pension Fund ..:D
Or is it just a matter that it is law breaking not to have road tax ?

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sounds reasonable to me, but don't forget to get a discount to cover the cost of the tax you will have to buy :D

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Just to put the record straight I am a motorist, no I don't like paying insurance, tax,
just like any other motorist but its the law so don't have a choice. When a motorist is stopped for example a light out its usually just a friendly warning, not we'll through you in jail for the rest of your life!! Why when the police are doing their job are they suddenly the "bad boys" Sorry but breaking the law is breaking the law, driving whilst using a mobile phone is dangerous, but some people think its OK its not a huge crime.

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I use mine all the time. I have even spoken to the Police while driving down the motorway to report debris in the road and a car swerving between all 3 lanes being driven by an old lady that looked unwell.

It is no more dangerous than talking to a passenger. In fact you could argue it is safer than talking to a passenger as you are not tempted to look at the person which many people seam to do.

You might be able to explain why it is not illegal to use a taxi radio while driving? They have a cable on them that get wrapped around everything while you are driving.

I do agree though that holding a hand held mobile phone while driving is dangerous. Seeing as you can buy a full bluetooth car kit like mine for only a little more than the fine I can't understand why people do it.

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Something that surprised me is that a new driver who gets six penalty pionts on their licence within the first two years have their licence taken away and have to take the test again. I only found out about it because there was a case highlighted on breakfast tv theother day, but it makes sense to me

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Yep its 6 points for the 1st 2 years then goes up to 12 points after that time

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Talking of mobile while driving, have you ever seen a local copper talking on his radio when driving? the radio's fastened right up near their collar and when they use it the turn their head to the side and look in a downward direction - thats worse than using a mobile phone.
I say local coppers because the traffic cars have a built in system, usually push button on the steering wheel or on a stalk by the indicators

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And you could get a ban very quickly because it could Soon be 6 points for speeding if your over 15mph above the limit and 6 points if your over 25mph above the limit on motorways, thats if it gets passed but their trying to get it through now

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That's why the rushed in law is daft. It specifically states hand held telephone so hand held 2 way radios are not included.

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I agree and I've had this discussion with a few coppers, I wouldn't mind as much if they were using a radio with a cable thats fitted into the car, yeah they get tangled and wrapped round things but at least you can keep your eyes on the road, not like using the radio fastened to your collar and you have to twist your neck round to use at and keep the button pressed while your talking, don't get me wrong though, I agree its dangerous using a phone while driving and always use my hands free, and if it aint turned on I don't answer the phone while driving

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With my parrot you can't turn it off. Start the car and within a few seconds it beeps so you know it has connected. then one button press to answer and one to end the call - easier that working the heater ;)

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It is rare to catch a burglar in the act so the police can only get involved after the event. OK so if more cops were on the beat it would deter burglars in their proximity but we don’t have and never have had wall-to-wall cops.

The real problem is the fences and the general public. How many people can honestly say that they have never bought something that ‘fell off the back of a lorry’?

Some burglars steal to furnish their own premises and those of close friends but most burglary proceeds are sold off to pay for drugs and booze.

The answer, in part, is surely to dish out meaningful prison sentences that will deter repeats.

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I actually said SOME not ALL :rolleyes:

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Have you noticed there is a special button for quoting more than one person at once?

Its the middle one here

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...multiquote.jpg

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I am a motorist and it bugs me that they purge on certain 'money making' crimes

Iy used to be a regular thing, round the corner of where I worked, the last 2 days of every month there used to be mobile cameras on a carpark at the bottom of a hill. (the top road into Haslingden). There used to be about 4 or 5 coppers there, and it was purely to make sure numbers were met and money targets hit.

On the other hand, when I worked behind a bar at the pretty much the same time, I had a bottle thrown at my head bu a punter, called 999, nearly two hours later the police turned up.

With regards to mobiles being more danerous than drink/drug driving, what a load of twaddle.

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The police commonly catch people with stolen goods, drugs in their car etc when doing these checks. I remember being stoppped one time, and while it was a painless experience for me, the guy in front of me had to explain why he had two samurai swords and a baseball bat in his boot.

I mean the average burglar isn't going to worry too much about the seat belt law are they? And they have to cart that gear around somehow.

I also know of a family whose young granddaughter was killed on the road by an unlicensed driver. If he had been caught by the police in a safety check, she would still be alive.

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I also think it is one of those made up trials they did.

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Does it matter which is more dangerous?

Anything that impairs a driver from driving competently and safely or distracts the driver from doing so, is dangerous. And that includes talking to passengers, smoking, scratching your nose, fiddling with the radio/CD player etc. If it causes an accident and someone gets killed they are still dead. It matters not the reason.

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I agree,I would never let the wife in the car.:D:D

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anyone driving without insurance should have their car crushed with them in it

anyone caught talking on a mobile while driving should rightly get points and a fine

anyone caught texting and driving should be dragged out of their car and severely beaten then fined and 3 points on their licence

to drive a transit van you shoud have to take an extra test as it is clear the majority of them think they are in a micra and think just because they dont have a rear window they dont need to check whats behind them or along side them

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anyone caught usein a mobile while drivin should be banned for 2year from ownin a mobile,

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They'd be distraught!
If they find the importance to txt/talk while driving, banning them from a mobile phone wouldn't half upset them:D

Not that it could happen lol

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Why do people find the need to use a mobile phone whilst driving anyway. mobiles have only been with us two minutes, we managed without them before, so whats the poblem now, I'd go as fare as to saw anyone pulled up with a phone switched on should get 6 points on the licence, that would make them think twice about using them whilst in a car

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The punishment should be car related not phone related. What you going to do if someone is caught giving ****deleted some rude bits **** :D:D

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I always thought speed restrictions were there to save lives and costly hospital bills but then after 40yrs of driving with no driving related endorsements I must live in a different world.:hidewall:

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its just what i think , i would rather loss my money then my phone, my life is on my phone , ,and rather givin a driver 2-3 points for him or her just to do it again , i,d ban them from havin a phone and its warning , for other ,

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Ok, what is "clamping"?:confused:

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this is a clamp

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I struggled reading that but if your phone is so important to you and you drive then get yourself a proper fully fitted car kit.

All I do is turn the ignition key and the car kit and phone become one. It is so simple and not much more than a fine.

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Strange .... why not just tow the vehicle to the impound:confused:

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It helps when people stay far enough back that they can be seen in the wing mirrors.
Most car drivers seem to think my sprinter is a micra, and expect it to stop as quickly, so they just pull out in front of me on a regular basis, car drivers should have tests in a car, a van, a motorbike and a truck, they may then appreciate how car drivers affect others.

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The “Denver Boot” immobilises the vehicle whilst the tow truck gets round to it.

It also gives the luckless driver the opportunity to pay out loads of money to have it removed and thus saves on the expense of towing it away.

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You old fart :p

Not seen a wing mirror on a car made since before the early 80's :D:D:D

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haha, cheeky! I still call them wing mirrors, and I bet most other people over 25 do too!

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Well, what else are they called .... :confused:

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Dont know Katex, was afraid to ask in case I showed my age again! :rolleyes:

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Most modern cars have them on the doors, so I reckon they are called door mirrors :p

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Or door mounted rear view mirrors.:confused:
But they are still wing mirrors to me.:D

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If I had a Bentley or Jag I might give them the full title, on my Vectra they are door mirrors :D

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Well, small report in Observer re. vandals causing £100 damage to a 'wing mirror' on a Vauxhall Astra. So, perhaps Neil will inform them that this is not the correct title ... :D

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If thats the one on dill hall lane katex, it wasnt vandals, it was passing cars that struggle because of the way that the homeowners park both sides of the road (even the ones with drives), and park at stupid angles, have seen a few damaged cars over there lately.

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Forgot you were common:D:tongueout:hidewall:

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No, Peel Park Avenue Derek.

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If we reported all the errors in the paper they would not have enough time to write next weeks :rolleyes:

A year or so ago there were a lot of door mirrors smashed off on the footpath side while the cars were parked.

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There were a good few in the last few weeks neil, but in the main, i dont have a lot of sympathy for some of them. Technically, is illegal to double park (across from another vehicle when the road isnt wide enough) and to park on the footpath, so in any event, they are parking illegally, if that results in door/wing mirrors occasionally, at about 100 quid a chuck, is thier own fault.

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Did you know that the law does not say you can't park on the footpath? It is however illegal to drive on the footpath. Then again the law is an ass.

It is illegal to park causing an obstruction though.

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Too right I am, no point buying hankies when you got sleeves :D

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With today’s technology I would have thought that the car manufacturers would have come up with something different to a door/wing mirror.

For a start, if a roof rack is reckoned to increase fuel consumption then so do external mirrors to some degree.

Years ago when drivers did their signalling with the right hand/arm the flip up indicator was invented. If you wanted to turn right you flicked a switch and out swivelled an arm to indicate so. Or one on the left side if turning left. So why can’t some engineer do the same for external mirrors? Park the car and turn off the ignition and the mirrors retract out of harms way. Turn on the ignition and out they come. Simple. No doubt the car manufacturers would take advantage and stick an extra few hundred quid on the cost of a car.

But that would only solve the “passing cars/vandals smashing mirrors whilst parked” problem. It would not address the fuel increase problem or touching mirrors with on coming traffic whilst in motion in a tight spot.

What if there was a mirror sized LCD display on the right and left on top of dashboard in line with where the door mirrors are now, that are connected by fibre optics to two cameras at the back of the car, say as part of the rear light clusters. Of course this would mean that you would not be able to see the back of your car, which can be so useful when reversing.

But hey! What a problems for but for solving?

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Eeew you are correct Neil, didn't know that .. looked it up ... here it is.

Department for Transport - Parking on pavements and alongside dropped kerbs

Think it is a difficult one when parking on the road opposite to another one (who is to say which car parked first !), as against on the pavement . as long as room for prams, wheelchairs, etc.

Last week travelled down Audley Range, and due to the heavy population there, they were all parked on the pavement ... scoffed at this, but obviously, perfectly legal then.

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Lots of modern cars already have this facility Jambutty .. know my brother's Avensis does ... whether it was an extra ... not sure.

Actually, not sure in retrospect whether linked up to the ignition, or just a button inside that you press to retract them .. which is still good.

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My cars mirrors fold away with a switch or if already switched, when the doors close and the engine is off, some cars also have camera's in the back for reversing, is probably a cost issue, also, the manufacturers make millions from broken mirrors, the price of which is probably excessive because they know they are going to sell.

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Maybe ... but doesn't the driver have to pay the expense of towing anyway, and a hefty impound fee? Ah well, different folks etc.