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Neil 14-10-2008 19:20

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 641308)
well said neil, some just can't or won't see the need fer specialists in certain areas.:rolleyes:

Well said my backside, I am biting my lip that hard on this one I will be in need of a blood transfusion soon :(

jaysay 15-10-2008 09:46

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 641301)
nor did HBC, why do you think the recent lottery bid failed?

After that maybe they will now start to think that filling in these bits of paper for a grant application is the specialist job that it is.

The Accrington Blind society employed a professional to apply for a lottery grant few years ago Neil, cost quit a lot of money too, they got turned down:rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 15-10-2008 10:03

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 641301)
nor did HBC, why do you think the recent lottery bid failed?

After that maybe they will now start to think that filling in these bits of paper for a grant application is the specialist job that it is.

I'd give you karma for that post Neil but I've given out too much recently apparently :(

Neil 15-10-2008 10:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 641436)
The Accrington Blind society employed a professional to apply for a lottery grant few years ago Neil, cost quit a lot of money too, they got turned down:rolleyes:


Thats why its called a lottery bid :)

You can only do everything you can to try and win it.

If the bid fails then so does the management fee park of it and the professional in question does not get paid. Thats whats good about a fund finder thats pay his/her wage from the bids.

jaysay 15-10-2008 16:26

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 641456)
Thats why its called a lottery bid :)

You can only do everything you can to try and win it.

If the bid fails then so does the management fee park of it and the professional in question does not get paid. Thats whats good about a fund finder thats pay his/her wage from the bids.

All well and good Neil but why do so many outrageuos organisations manage it, there was one last year £350000 for an asylum seekers support group. As some one who plays the lottery I'd rather see projects like Rhyddings park and the blind society being sucussful, but they seem to have to work much harder to get grants

Neil 15-10-2008 16:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 641555)
All well and good Neil but why do so many outrageuos organisations manage it

Maybe that comes down to those doing the judging.

Also if the bid meets all the relevant criteria for the particular bid and the forms are correctly filled in and all the supporting evidence is there to show the need then it should get the funding.

cashman 15-10-2008 16:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 641555)
I'd rather see projects like Rhyddings park and the blind society being sucussful, but they seem to have to work much harder to get grants

what do you expect they are british.:rolleyes:;)

Gayle 15-10-2008 16:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay
As some one who plays the lottery I'd rather see projects like Rhyddings park and the blind society being sucussful, but they seem to have to work much harder to get grants


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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 641558)
what do you expect they are british.:rolleyes:;)


No one has to work harder than anyone else - everyone has exactly the same forms to fill in.

katex 15-10-2008 17:05

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 641567)
No one has to work harder than anyone else - everyone has exactly the same forms to fill in.

But as you have said before Gayle, there does seem to be an art in it, as you well know.

Neil 15-10-2008 17:14

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Not art Kate, its like everything else, experience and knowing how to do it, more of a skill I would say. It also helps if you can read and understand what the application requires and know how to word your answers to maximise whatever scoring method they use to access them.

I will stick with skill and experience I think.

Gayle 15-10-2008 18:46

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 641578)
But as you have said before Gayle, there does seem to be an art in it, as you well know.

Fair enough there may be an art to it, or skill or experience, but if someone doesn't have that skill they don't get given simpler forms!

Neil 15-10-2008 18:54

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 641622)
Fair enough there may be an art to it, or skill or experience, but if someone doesn't have that skill they don't get given simpler forms!

Excuse me madam but I am the sarcastic git on here :rolleyes::D

Gayle 15-10-2008 18:55

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 641624)
Excuse me madam but I am the sarcastic git on here :rolleyes::D

Well I'm back!

Neil 15-10-2008 18:56

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 641625)
Well I'm back!

Have you been away? :p

WillowTheWhisp 15-10-2008 20:19

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 641622)
Fair enough there may be an art to it, or skill or experience, but if someone doesn't have that skill they don't get given simpler forms!

Which is precisely why you need someone filling them in who does have the knack. :)


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