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maxwell silver 27-10-2008 16:59

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That scruffy so-called lothario Russell Brand & his mate Jonothan Woss have apparently got therselves & the BBC into hot water.They thought it highly amusing to leave obscene & lewd messages on the answer machine of actor Andrew Sachs (Manuel,Fawlty Towers fame).These messages included rude comments about Sachs' grandaughter amongst other things.Does anyone else think these two overpaid idiots should get a warning off the Beeb about over stepping the mark?Very juvenille to say the least(then anyone who calls his book 'my booky wooky' should really still be in infant school)
Is it not possible the police could have got involved in this.Mr Sachs was very upset,apparently,as anyone would be. Thought maybe Ross should have known better,but that other clown....not funny,never will be.

West Ender 27-10-2008 17:25

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Ross and Brand behaved like pathetic teenagers who ring their mates and try to wind them up. The point is, neither of them is a teenager and Andrew Sachs is a 78 year old gentleman and not their "mate".

Someone in authority at the BBC should impress on Ross, Brand and the producer of the show that, contrary to their puerile thinking, what they did is neither big nor clever. They should be sacked, forthwith, and thank their lucky stars that Mr Sachs isn't sueing them.

flashy 27-10-2008 18:10

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now i happen to like Russell Brand, cant stand Jonathan Ross though BUT...i do think they should be reprimanded for it

pipinfort 27-10-2008 18:15

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I suppose that they should get a telling off for the juvenile prank, i hate Brand but like Ross, i believe Mr Sachs could press charges....although i must admit it did make me chuckle.....;)

flashy 27-10-2008 18:22

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 645031)
although i must admit it did make me chuckle.....;)


you n me both kiddo ;) *snigger*

Wynonie Harris 27-10-2008 18:57

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Lord Reith must be spinning!

Bryrog 27-10-2008 19:24

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Why can't Brand & Ross, first of all grow up and stop trying to behave like teenage wind up merchants and take a leaf out of M Parkinson's technique and Listen to the celeb and not try to take centre stage and let the celeb say what they feel. I was so disgusted by the way Ross conned poor Daniel Craig out of his wrist watch and made DC feel embarassed if he did not donate it.

lancsdave 27-10-2008 19:34

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It's to be hoped Brand didn't leave a message on the phone to say he was a comedian, the fraud squad would have to get involved :rolleyes:

Benipete 27-10-2008 20:00

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Ross should be sacked without notice and the other idiot(can't call him a comedian)should be banned by all TV companies.:behead::behead:

flashy 27-10-2008 20:02

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RIGHT, we've all pulled stupid pranks in our lives (if you havent then you are boring) these two are only being reprimanded because they are in the limelight, give the lads a break, people have done far worse than this and got away with it

Benipete 27-10-2008 20:08

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Not on the BBC

BERNADETTE 27-10-2008 20:47

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 645066)
RIGHT, we've all pulled stupid pranks in our lives (if you havent then you are boring) these two are only being reprimanded because they are in the limelight, give the lads a break, people have done far worse than this and got away with it

Hmmm wonder if you would find it funny if someone phoned your dad up with a call like that. Doubt you would so why should it be classed as funny by anyone elses dad?

Lilly 27-10-2008 20:50

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[quote=flashytart;6450 give the lads a break, people have done far worse than this and got away with it[/quote]

True, they have.

It doesn't make it right though.

West Ender 27-10-2008 21:32

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I agree with Bernadette. When you defend something like this, you should always ask yourself if you'd be happy if it was done to you. Would you like to have lewd comments about your child or grandchild broadcast? I know if it happened to me I'd be bloody angry but maybe you'd think it was just a "prank".

Give the lads a break? Jonathan Ross has children of his own. He should know better.

MargaretR 27-10-2008 21:40

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Both are very overpaid and overrated.
This gives them the impression that they can get away with such very bad taste, but I hope that the bad publicity they have had since will bring them down off their pedestals.
and maybe down the payscale

Lilly 27-10-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 645105)
I agree with Bernadette. When you defend something like this, you should always ask yourself if you'd be happy if it was done to you. Would you like to have lewd comments about your child or grandchild broadcast? I know if it happened to me I'd be bloody angry but maybe you'd think it was just a "prank".

Give the lads a break? Jonathan Ross has children of his own. He should know better.

Judging by the names he gave those children he's obviously not on our wavelength.:rolleyes:

Who the hell calls their kids Betty Kitten, Harvey Kirby and Honey Kinny? :confused::eek:

MargaretR 27-10-2008 21:52

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 645109)
Judging by the names he gave those children he's obviously not on our wavelength.:rolleyes:

Who the hell calls their kids Betty Kitten, Harvey Kirby and Honey Kinny? :confused::eek:

notice there are no Rs or wubbleUs in those names:rolleyes:
ps just noticed one R -how will he pronounce that -Harwey? mind boggles

West Ender 27-10-2008 21:54

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 645109)
Judging by the names he gave those children he's obviously not on our wavelength.:rolleyes:

Who the hell calls their kids Betty Kitten, Harvey Kirby and Honey Kinny? :confused::eek:




On reflection - you have a very good point. ;)

Who would call their 1st child after a cat, their 2nd after a 6' white rabbit and their youngest after a not-very-palatable, continental soft drink?

Benipete 27-10-2008 22:02

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 645108)
Both are very overpaid and overrated.
This gives them the impression that they can get away with such very bad taste, but I hope that the bad publicity they have had since will bring them down off their pedestals.
and maybe down the payscale

I may be wrong but I think Ross is paid about£7million a year.I demand a refund from the BBC.:confused:

BERNADETTE 27-10-2008 22:04

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It is just like somebody ringing my Mum and telling her details of my kids sex life. Not funny in the least!!!

jambutty 27-10-2008 22:06

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Sack them both.

garinda 27-10-2008 23:04

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 645066)
RIGHT, we've all pulled stupid pranks in our lives (if you havent then you are boring) these two are only being reprimanded because they are in the limelight, give the lads a break, people have done far worse than this and got away with it

Yes but unlike Ross we don't get £17 million pounds of licence fee payers money for doing it.

What they did was nasty, and if I were in charge they'd be sacked, to curb the arrogance that comes with being paid such obscene salaries.

Benipete 27-10-2008 23:34

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645131)
Yes but unlike Ross we don't get £17 million pounds of licence fee payers money for doing it.

What they did was nasty, and if I were in charge they'd be sacked, to curb the arrogance that comes with being paid such obscene salaries.

Well It appears that it was pre-recorded so what the hell where the producers doing.Not that it excuses the behavior of the two R's - holes.:confused:

keetah992000 27-10-2008 23:40

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645119)
Sack them both.

Do you not mean Sach them both ?

:D

mothernature 27-10-2008 23:44

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 645066)
RIGHT, we've all pulled stupid pranks in our lives (if you havent then you are boring) these two are only being reprimanded because they are in the limelight, give the lads a break, people have done far worse than this and got away with it


This isn't what I would call a stupid prank. Surely there is a law against malicious phone calls like the ones they made. Maybe they should be prosecuted for their prank. Why are these types of programmes allowed to be made anyway. Just tells me that the moral standards of the viewing public have suck very low if this is what they call entertainment.

garinda 27-10-2008 23:48

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Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 645143)
This isn't what I would call a stupid prank. Surely there is a law against malicious phone calls like the ones they made. Maybe they should be prosecuted for their prank.

That was my first reaction, that it's illegal to make malicous calls.

I agree about the producers liability. Which ever bigwig at the Beeb, who thought this recorded programme was suitable to be broadcast, should also be fired.

Benipete 28-10-2008 01:37

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645145)
That was my first reaction, that it's illegal to make malicous calls.

I agree about the producers liability. Which ever bigwig at the Beeb, who thought this recorded programme was suitable to be broadcast, should also be fired.

The only defense for these two idiots is that it was recorded, that aside I would still give them the boot along with the production team and their pusher.:confused::confused: It's a thin white line.:mosher:

jaysay 28-10-2008 09:18

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Is anybody really surprised at these two morons, as Rindi said £17 million of our money to pay this twerp (for want of a better word) and what actually does he do to earn that much money anyway, is it any wonder that we see repeat after repeat on the Beeb. I have never understood why he (Ross) as to come out with four letter words on his Friday night show, its not cleaver, okay its after the so called water shed, but that's no excuse. I remember he was on the Charlotte Church show on 4 and it was just one stream of four letter expletives from start to finish. There's a time and place for that language, barrack room and the building site, but not on TV:(

archiveuk 28-10-2008 18:38

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 645116)
I may be wrong but I think Ross is paid about£7million a year.I demand a refund from the BBC.:confused:

In my opinion humour is only funny if it has no victims. From tonights reports it seems that Andrew Sachs asked for the prank to be dropped from the "show".

I understood Ross was on a 3 yr contract and his pay (for both Tv & Radio work) was nearer to 17 million....

I think the buffoons who hired him should be sacked...

MargaretR 28-10-2008 18:48

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12,000 emails complaining could mean the end of these two on the BBC

I won't miss them

panther 28-10-2008 19:19

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I think there are more important things to worry about than some 'joke':(

baillieman2 28-10-2008 19:42

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Top of the news on the BBC with the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition making their views known - is there still a sense of proportion in the UK as far as news is concerned?

katex 28-10-2008 20:00

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Myself, have never raised a muscle at either side of my face in mirth to these two ... guess some must like them though.

This programme should never have gone out, blah, blah, agree wholeheartedly, and think Andrew Sachs a lovely and honourable man, HOWEVER, don't really think has done his grandaughter any harm at all. Sure she is not at all fazed by this incident.

She calls herself Voluptua and dances in a group called Satanic Sluts, has described her sexual leanings as 'swinger' and performs voodoo, vampire brutality and sexy striptease on stage ... nowt wrong with this either in my opinion, suspect harmless fun. 'Course she has now rushed home feigning 'hurt', and will be writing some sort of memoirs :rolleyes: Best thing that happened to her I reckon.

Still not condoning what those two excuses for Presenters/Comedians did though.:(

This is her:-

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lindsay ormerod 28-10-2008 21:30

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Just gonna post something similar Katex, she isn't exactly the shy retiring, easily offended type that we were all led to believe, chances are Russ has slept with her amongst the many others, and I am sure Andrew Sachs was well aware of her "career" before all this kicked off.
Get a grip people.

Lilly 28-10-2008 21:39

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645406)
Just gonna post something similar Katex, she isn't exactly the shy retiring, easily offended type that we were all led to believe, chances are Russ has slept with her amongst the many others, and I am sure Andrew Sachs was well aware of her "career" before all this kicked off.
Get a grip people.

It doesn't really matter what the girl does for a living or if she has or hasn't slept with Russell Brand.

Andrew Sachs has done nothing to deserve all the upset this has caused.

Royboy39 28-10-2008 21:42

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645406)
Just gonna post something similar Katex, she isn't exactly the shy retiring, easily offended type that we were all led to believe, chances are Russ has slept with her amongst the many others, and I am sure Andrew Sachs was well aware of her "career" before all this kicked off.
Get a grip people.

Quite a sweeping statement Lindsay....don't forget that this could hit Google...If true then OK, if not...you could have problems. ;)

lindsay ormerod 28-10-2008 21:55

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There are topless photos of her in the press today , she won't be complaining about the publicity and I would be very suprised if Russell could even remember half the women he has bedded, doesn't make it right but certainly puts a different slant on it.:rolleyes:

Lilly 28-10-2008 22:00

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645417)
There are topless photos of her in the press today , she won't be complaining about the publicity and I would be very suprised if Russell could even remember half the women he has bedded, doesn't make it right but certainly puts a different slant on it.:rolleyes:

I still don't think it does put a different slant on things. :confused:

Even if the grand-daughter is a stripper and even if she has slept with Russell Brand that does not make what Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross did to Andrew Sachs right. He was innocent in all this and did not deserve the humiliation.

BERNADETTE 28-10-2008 22:35

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Would you folk who think it is not a big deal be happy if somebody made a similar call to your Grandfather telling him about your sex life? I doubt it very much and if people thought it was not a big deal how come there have been so many complaints about it from viewers?

Neil 28-10-2008 22:39

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They should both be sacked.

There is no need at all for the BBC to pay such high wages for anyone. There are plenty of good DJ's on independant radio stations that do a better job for a lot less money.

How can the BBC justify such high wages?

garinda 28-10-2008 22:52

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Whether the grandaughter in question is a saint, or a sinner, isn't the question.

The fact is Brand and Ross were wrong to bombard this innocent man with these obscene messages.

Anyone who thinks they were within their comedic right to do so, please feel free to post your granny/grandad/mum/dad's telephone number on Accy Web, and I'm sure some wag would love to have a 'joke' with your own loved one regarding your personal life.

Bonnyboy 28-10-2008 23:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645442)
Whether the grandaughter in question is a saint, or a sinner, isn't the question.

The fact is Brand and Ross were wrong to bombard this innocent man with these obscene messages.

Anyone who thinks they were within their comedic right to do so, please feel free to post your granny/grandad/mum/dad's telephone number on Accy Web, and I'm sure some wag would love to have a 'joke' with your own loved one regarding your personal life.

Sums it up in a Nutshell for me…doubt their will be many takers.

MargaretR 29-10-2008 07:12

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There is a poll in todays Guardian about whether or not they should be fired
Poll: Should Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross be fired? | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

garinda 29-10-2008 08:04

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 645466)
There is a poll in todays Guardian about whether or not they should be fired
Poll: Should Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross be fired? | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Which at the moment is showing that just under 2/3 think they should be sacked.

In the seventies Kenny Everett was sacked twice by the B.B.C., for doing something a hundred times less offensive.

jaysay 29-10-2008 09:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645472)
Which at the moment is showing that just under 2/3 think they should be sacked.

In the seventies Kenny Everett was sacked twice by the B.B.C., for doing something a hundred times less offensive.

Was just going to say the same myself Rindi. I must be me but I didn't really like Kenny either, but at least some of the stuff he did amused me, but Ross and Brand words fail me, I think people lose any sort of dignity when they have to resort to foul mouth rants on either TV or Radio to get a laugh. If they are doing a stage show which people pay to see that's different, because you know what to expect when you buy the ticket, but on media outlets like the BBC which is funded by the licence payer its not acceptable full stop:(

jambutty 29-10-2008 10:46

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The DG has just announced that Ross and Brand are being suspended.

Pity that it doesn’t mean literally.

panther 29-10-2008 12:01

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Here is a condensed transcript of the stream of phone calls made to former Fawlty Towers star Andrew Sachs, by BBC presenters Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand.
At times the presenters can be heard giggling and talking over the top of each other as Ross jokes at one point: "We can keep doing this for hours."
The calls were posted on the YouTube website.
Russell Brand (RB): "This is Andrew Sachs's answerphone. Right Jonathan, well this is unconventional..
Jonathan Ross (JR): "Don't worry I'll blurt something out"
RB: "Don't blurt something out, not on the answerphone Jonathan.
Andrew Sachs's answerphone: "Sorry I can't answer at the moment, but please call again or leave a message. Speak after the tone, thank you."
RB: "Hello Andrew Sachs this is Russell Brand. I am a great appreciator of your work over the decades. You're meant to be on my show now mate, I don't know why you're not answering the phone, it's a bit difficult - I'm here with Jonathan Ross."
JR: "Hello Andrew..."
RB: "That's Jonathan Ross speaking now. Anyway, we understand.. anyway.. we can still do the interview to his answerphone..."
(The two presenters exchange banter)
JR: "He f***** your granddaughter!" (laughter)... I'm sorry I apologise. Andrew I apologise... I got excited, what can I say. it just came out."
RB: "Andrew Sachs, I did not do nothing with Georgina - oh no I've revealed I know her name! Oh no it's a disaster.
"Abort, abort. Please watch that show. I am out of The Bill, starring Andrew Sachs, I'm out of The Bill... Put the phone down, put the phone down, code red code red. I'm sorry Mr Fawlty I'm sorry, they're a waste of space..."
JR: "... How could I carry that round in my head like a big brain blister all day? I had to pop it and let the pressure out...
"Like it's really bothered us though, he's the poor man sitting at home sobbing over his answer machine...
"If he's like most people of a certain age he's probably got a picture of his grandchildren when they're young right by the phone.
"So while he's listening to the messages he's looking at a picture of her about nine on a swing."
RB: "She was on a swing when I met her. Oh no!"
JR: "And probably enjoyed her."
RB: "Let's ring back Andrew Sachs... What if he answers this time? Oh no Jonathan please. I'll do anything."
(Andrew Sachs's answerphone message comes on for a second time.)
RB: Andrew this is Russell Brand. I'm so sorry about the last message. It was part of the radio show. It was a mistake."
JR: "It was just a joke. If there is any truth in that, I don't know. It was just a joke."
RB: "It was just a joke that we done. I didn't ask him to say it though..."
JR: "It might be true, but we didn't want to break it to you in such a harsh way."
RB: "Ok, look the truth is, Andrew I'm ringing you to ask if I can marry, that's right marry your granddaughter, Georgina the granddaughter."
JR: "And I'd like to be a page boy."
RB: He wants to be a page boy. We're going to have a Fawlty Towers-themed wedding."
JR: "No, no, you've spoiled it..."
RB: "No I'm sorry I'll do anything. I wore a condom. Put the phone down. Oh, what's going to happen?..."
JR: "You'll never become king rat in the Variety Club now Russell Brand."
RB: "Oh no that's over for me. I'm never going to be king rat in the Variety Club. Jonathan I think we've made the situation worse."
JR: "Who'd have thought two people like us could possibly have made the situation worse."
RB: "How could we with all our skills, our social skills, our talents our experiences."
JR: "Our intentions were pure."
RB: "You know the only way we can make this better don't you?"
JR: "Let's phone him again. Let's leave a nice message."
RB: "Listen, we've got to make it better. We'll phone Andrew Sachs back. We've got to stop upsetting Manuel. This time Jonathan I'm convinced we can make it better."
JR: "What should we not mention, the war?"
RB: "Don't mention the war, don't mention his granddaughter. Don't say: 'You only ever played Manuel'... Don't mention The Bill in a negative way. Yes! We'll just sing to him. I'll make up something as I go along."
JR: "I'll be Bing Crosby to your David Bowie."
RB: "I've always seen our relationship as a Christmas-themed hit."
(The answerphone message plays again).
JR: (as the message plays): "She was bent over the couch..."
RB (singing): "I'd like to apologise for these terrible attacks - Andrew Sachs.
"I'd like to show contrition to the max, Andrew Sachs.
"I'd like to create world peace, between the yellow, whites and blacks Andrew Sachs, Andrew Sachs.
"I said some things I didn't of oughta, like I had sex with your granddaughter.
"But it was consensual and she wasn't menstrual it was consensual lovely sex.
"It's full of respect. I sent her a text. I've asked her to marry me...
"Oh Andrew Sachs, will you marry Jonathan, it sounds like he wants to now."
JR: "This has made it worse, I feel it's made it worse, you've trivialised the whole terrible incident. It started fine and then you went on about nonsense."
RB: "You said you wanted to marry him..."
JR: "I wasn't really listening to you, I was concentrating on my back harmonies... There's only one way we could possibly make this better."
(Brand laughs)
RB: "What can we do?"
JR: "Let's use up the rest of his tape, this time with a heartfelt and sincere apology... Pretend you're Gordon Brown and make a beautiful speech rescuing the country from the credit crunch and rescue him from the inner turmoil you've caused by saying that you jumped on a relative."
RB: "Yes, you're right Jonathan, you're right. Only by doing the exact thing that we've done three times already can we make the situation better."
JR: "If you learn one thing from history, it's do not repeat your mistakes."
RB: "Don't repeat them."
JR: "So let's do it right this time."
RB: "Thank God Jonathan."
JR: "Maybe this time... I want to do the song this time."
RB: "You're not doing the lyrics. You'll balls it up. And can't do backing it's not in my nature."
JR: "But you talked about his granddaughter's menstruation."
RB: "Look we've got a golden opportunity here, to make Andrew Sachs happy."
JR: "... we should go in a little bit more relaxed this time."
RB: "Right yeah that's true, let's not look at this as the last time we're going to call Andrew Sachs."
(Ross laughs)
JR: "... The wonder of technology is such that we can keep doing this for hours."
RB: "And even after the show's finished Jonathan we can find out where Andrew Sachs lives, kick his front door in and scream apologies into his bottom... We can just keep on troubling Andrew Sachs... let's do it, right, ok.
"You pretend you're Andrew Sachs's answerphone."
JR: "Hello, Manuel is not in right now. Leave your message after the tone."
RB (as the phone rings again): "Alright Andrew Sachs's answerphone, I'm ever so sorry for what I said about Andrew Sachs."
JR: "Just say: 'Sorry'."
RB (laughing): "I'll kill you!"
JR: "Don't say you'll wear him as a hat, just say: 'Sorry'."
RB: "Sorry, right."

Studio25 29-10-2008 13:12

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I'm missing something - was the posting of a transcript of the "show" supposed to achieve something?:eek::confused:

Tealeaf 29-10-2008 13:53

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Just how daft are the BBC? Their website summarises the transcript of the phone calls but unlike the above spells out the F word in full.(You an read it now) Someone needs to be called to account for that. The easy solution is to sack the lot and shut the shambles down.

jaysay 29-10-2008 15:55

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Well at least there maybe a good film on a 10-35pm on Friday night;)

maxwell silver 29-10-2008 17:01

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Just heard that Brand has resigned from his radio show,so some good has come out of all this:DWonder if Ross has the decency to follow suite.

jambutty 29-10-2008 17:13

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 645578)
Just heard that Brand has resigned from his radio show,so some good has come out of all this:DWonder if Ross has the decency to follow suite.

He didn’t resign. He, like that other Muppet Ross, was suspended by the DG at around noon today.

maxwell silver 29-10-2008 17:16

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645581)
He didn’t resign. He, like that other Muppet Ross, was suspended by the DG at around noon today.

Well according to channel 4 news after the DG suspended him Brand resigned.Evening news, all channels.

panther 29-10-2008 17:23

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 645545)
I'm missing something - was the posting of a transcript of the "show" supposed to achieve something?:eek::confused:

Is this a question for me!?

MargaretR 29-10-2008 17:42

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This breach in the code of conduct gives the BBC the perfect excuse to get rid of Ross without the need to give him a golden handshake to compensate for the rest of his contract time.
No doubt this will be the main topic of the emergency BBC meeting tomorrow.

His career is doomed - Oh 'how are the mighty fallen' :D

garinda 29-10-2008 17:42

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 645582)
Well according to channel 4 news after the DG suspended him Brand resigned.Evening news, all channels.

Like you say Brand has resigned fron his B.B.C. radio show, as has been reported on the news since four o'clock this afternoon.

pipinfort 29-10-2008 17:45

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645581)
He didn’t resign. He, like that other Muppet Ross, was suspended by the DG at around noon today.

Yes, he did resign this afternoon.

garinda 29-10-2008 17:48

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 645598)
Yes, he did resign this afternoon.

How dare you question Jambutty?

If he says he hasn't resigned, then you can take it as fact that he's done no such thing.;)

mothernature 29-10-2008 19:13

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Does this mean I may get to listen to Radio 2 on Saturday mornings now? :D:D:D:D:D

lindsay ormerod 29-10-2008 19:39

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And the lovely Georgina has admittted that she has slept with Russell Brand.
Not saying what they did was right or acceptable, just seems to have been blown out of all sensible proportion.:rolleyes:

shakermaker 29-10-2008 19:45

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The actions of Brand, Wossy and all the producers were out of line and were punished accordingly.

I like both Wossy and Brand. (Will I get lynched by the angry mob for saying that on here I wonder?) I hope Brand gets another radio show as I enjoyed his Radio 2 slot.

glasgow guy 29-10-2008 19:58

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645627)
And the lovely Georgina has admittted that she has slept with Russell Brand.
Not saying what they did was right or acceptable, just seems to have been blown out of all sensible proportion.:rolleyes:

I thought it was just me that thought that..

lindsay ormerod 29-10-2008 20:37

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy (Post 645635)
I thought it was just me that thought that..

Nah, come and join me on the crusade for common sense !:rolleyes:
( Eric is fine btw and thriving !)

Lilly 29-10-2008 21:03

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645647)
Nah, come and join me on the crusade for common sense !:rolleyes:
( Eric is fine btw and thriving !)

There won't be many of you......there doesn't appear to be a lot of people on here agreeing with you on this one. :p

lindsay ormerod 29-10-2008 21:05

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 645652)
There won't be many of you......there doesn't appear to be a lot of people on here agreeing with you on this one. :p

Fine by me, I don't get my knickers in a twist if folk don't agree, that's the whole point of a public forum ! :D

Lilly 29-10-2008 21:07

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645653)
Fine by me, I don't get my knickers in a twist if folk don't agree, that's the whole point of a public forum ! :D

That's the way to look at it.....I like your style. :D

emamum 29-10-2008 21:54

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I missed all this palaver....


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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645442)
Whether the grandaughter in question is a saint, or a sinner, isn't the question.

The fact is Brand and Ross were wrong to bombard this innocent man with these obscene messages.

Anyone who thinks they were within their comedic right to do so, please feel free to post your granny/grandad/mum/dad's telephone number on Accy Web, and I'm sure some wag would love to have a 'joke' with your own loved one regarding your personal life.

my grandad is a member of accyweb thats close enough thanks lol

BERNADETTE 29-10-2008 22:09

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Seems that a lot more people than we would imagine were offended, according to the news the beeb has had 27,000 complaints.

Studio25 30-10-2008 01:10

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 645584)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 645545)
I'm missing something - was the posting of a transcript of the "show" supposed to achieve something?:eek::confused:

Is this a question for me!?

Yep.

It's an honest question.

Roy 30-10-2008 06:16

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 645672)
Seems that a lot more people than we would imagine were offended, according to the news the beeb has had 27,000 complaints.

I wonder how many of those complainers actually listened to the show and haven't just jumped on the bandwagon, after the excessive media coverage!
Definitely blown out of proportion, it is non news.

flashy 30-10-2008 07:26

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Brand has now resigned

garinda 30-10-2008 08:39

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 645695)
Brand has now resigned

If you read through the last few posts you'll see he hasn't, well not until the resignation letter has been veryified in Darwen.;)

flashy 30-10-2008 09:09

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645699)
If you read through the last few posts you'll see he hasn't, well not until the resignation letter has been veryified in Darwen.;)


:dummy: bless, Darwen has a lot to answer for :D

jaysay 30-10-2008 09:12

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645699)
If you read through the last few posts you'll see he hasn't, well not until the resignation letter has been veryified in Darwen.;)

You little tinker Rindi, your winding the Darwen Mafia up again:s_frighte

jambutty 30-10-2008 09:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 645703)
You little tinker Rindi, your winding the Darwen Mafia up again:s_frighte

Garinda couldn’t wind up a clock and doesn’t know when he is being wound up.

garinda 30-10-2008 10:10

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645581)
He didn’t resign. He, like that other Muppet Ross, was suspended by the DG at around noon today.


Perhaps your little radio needs windin' up, so you can be as up to date with current news items as the rest of us apparently are.;)

jaysay 30-10-2008 10:36

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645720)
Perhaps your little radio needs windin' up, so you can be as up to date with current news items as the rest of us apparently are.;)

They get an absolute fortune for clockwork radios on Bargain Hunt, Rindi

katex 30-10-2008 10:59

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Originally Posted by Roy (Post 645688)
I wonder how many of those complainers actually listened to the show and haven't just jumped on the bandwagon, after the excessive media coverage!
Definitely blown out of proportion, it is non news.

I do agree with this, I didn't listen to the show, mainly because do not like either of these 'celebrities' (they would have only to have added Chris Tarrant and would have been my worst nightmare :rolleyes:). Definitely influenced my thoughts that it should never have been broadcast in the first place, infantile and unfunny in my opinion and to invade Sach's privacy in this way was out of order.

I do think too, that with listeners, there is a love/hate thing going on here with this duo, and most people are possibly influenced by this for complaining. Just heard is coming up on Jeremy Vine later, and he has quoted out of 1,600 (?) E-Mails, 40% were supportive of them but, of course, they are the people that find them funny in the first place.... the rest of us never will.

shakermaker 30-10-2008 11:51

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I caught the recording in youtube, I actually found it funny. I must just be the spawn of Satan. Obviously they went too far and I think Brand's actions since the incident should be commended. Watch the video apology and resignation half way down the page at http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/en...nt/7699054.stm.
Personally I think, even though the actions of Brand and Woss were not right, complete blame should be on the people who commissioned the airing of the recording. Thousands of recordings on both TV and radio must contain offensive material to certain people and thus don't get aired. People who believe that the buck stops with Ross/Brand are somewhat misled.

katex 30-10-2008 11:54

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Just heard a point there that only 2 complaints had been received after the show, was not until the Mail published this story the following Sunday, that the public reacted, and complained en masse.

jambutty 30-10-2008 12:17

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645720)
Perhaps your little radio needs windin' up, so you can be as up to date with current news items as the rest of us apparently are.;)

Sorry to disappoint you but after hearing that the two miscreants had been suspended I had to take my accumulator to the local radio shop to be recharged and thus I was unable to listen to the wireless again until I got it back the next day.

I read the claim that Brand had resigned as a face saving statement by Brand.

shakermaker 30-10-2008 12:30

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 645743)
I caught the recording in youtube, I actually found it funny. I must just be the spawn of Satan. Obviously they went too far and I think Brand's actions since the incident should be commended. Watch the video apology and resignation half way down the page at http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/en...nt/7699054.stm.
Personally I think, even though the actions of Brand and Woss were not right, complete blame should be on the people who commissioned the airing of the recording. Thousands of recordings on both TV and radio must contain offensive material to certain people and thus don't get aired. People who believe that the buck stops with Ross/Brand are somewhat misled.

Sorry, bad link. Brand's apology & resignation is half way down the page for those who want a fuller picture rather than to slate the two when you haven't heard the recording in question or seen the apology: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7699054.stm

jambutty 30-10-2008 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy (Post 645688)
I wonder how many of those complainers actually listened to the show and haven't just jumped on the bandwagon, after the excessive media coverage!
Definitely blown out of proportion, it is non news.

Wonder no more Roy. I for one did not hear the broadcast and reacted to the news item on the Beeb.

In fact I have only ever seen Brand once on “Have I Got News For You” and wasn’t impressed with “A” his appearance and “B” his contribution to the programme.

The only reason that we have this ‘alternative’ comedy is that these ‘alternative’ comedians couldn’t hack it in the real comedy world so had to invent their own talent less version. Sadly some members of the public followed each other like sheep just like the fabled citizens who praised the kings new clothes, when there were none.

Ever since Ross appeared on our screens I have seen him as nothing more than a foul-mouthed child, mouthing off for effect and then feigning injured innocence with that “who me?” look on his face.

I make a point of not watching or listening to his broadcasts.

shakermaker 30-10-2008 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645757)
Wonder no more Roy. I for one did not hear the broadcast and reacted to the news item on the Beeb.

In fact I have only ever seen Brand once on “Have I Got News For You” and wasn’t impressed with “A” his appearance and “B” his contribution to the programme.

The only reason that we have this ‘alternative’ comedy is that these ‘alternative’ comedians couldn’t hack it in the real comedy world so had to invent their own talent less version. Sadly some members of the public followed each other like sheep just like the fabled citizens who praised the kings new clothes, when there were none.

Ever since Ross appeared on our screens I have seen him as nothing more than a foul-mouthed child, mouthing off for effect and then feigning injured innocence with that “who me?” look on his face.

I make a point of not watching or listening to his broadcasts.

Then you have no right to make any assertions about Brand's or Ross' position in the BBC based or their punishment on the issue in question, only on your opinions of their talents, or lack of as it were.

jambutty 30-10-2008 12:56

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 645759)
Then you have no right to make any assertions about Brand's or Ross' position in the BBC based or their punishment on the issue in question, only on your opinions of their talents, or lack of as it were.

Sheeeesh! The arrogance!

You might class yourself as a god member but that doesn’t mean to say that you can tell me what opinions I can and cannot publish.

I have every right to publish what I choose within the forum rules.

shakermaker 30-10-2008 13:04

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It isn't arrogance jambutty it's simple common sense. How can you have an opinion on a subject or an issue when you haven't bothered to actually look at the issue in question? By all means ramble on about their salary or their perceived lack of talent, but your opinion on the actual issue has no weight. You proclaim Brand's apology as one merely enacted to save face, yet you haven't read or seen the apology. That is the mark of an arrogant person: one that must have his/her ramblings heard and taken seriously despite owning no knowledge of the subject he/she is rambling about.

Be facetious and bring things like the god member status in all you wish, it won't mither me, it just makes you look childish. Just for the record, as you well know the 'God member' status is automatic, not entered by myself. So I couldn't possibly 'consider myself as a God member'. Fool.

jambutty 30-10-2008 13:20

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 645765)
It isn't arrogance jambutty it's simple common sense. How can you have an opinion on a subject or an issue when you haven't bothered to actually look at the issue in question? By all means ramble on about their salary or their perceived lack of talent, but your opinion on the actual issue has no weight. You proclaim Brand's apology as one merely enacted to save face, yet you haven't read or seen the apology. That is the mark of an arrogant person: one that must have his/her ramblings heard and taken seriously despite owning no knowledge of the subject he/she is rambling about.

Be facetious and bring things like the god member status in all you wish, it won't mither me, it just makes you look childish. Just for the record, as you well know the 'God member' status is automatic, not entered by myself. So I couldn't possibly 'consider myself as a God member'. Fool.

Did I say that I have not looked at the issue in question? Your presumptions only serve to back up your arrogance. I said that I reacted to the news report. Since then I have listened to various news items and read the comments and the transcript that have only served to reinforce my initial view.

Nor have I said anything about their salaries. But now I will. They were overpaid and the BBC should be taken to task for offering them.

And I did not proclaim Brands apology as a face saver. Just the fact that it was reported that he had resigned and I assumed that his resignation was a face saver.

The only fool here is someone who jumps in half cocked, spouts his piece without checking the facts first. It’s called arrogance.

shakermaker 30-10-2008 13:34

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Originally Posted by jambutty
Wonder no more Roy. I for one did not hear the broadcast and reacted to the news item on the Beeb.

...

Ever since Ross appeared on our screens I have seen him as nothing more than a foul-mouthed child, mouthing off for effect and then feigning injured innocence with that “who me?” look on his face.

I make a point of not watching or listening to his broadcasts

That, Sir, pretty much bellows that you haven't looked at the issue in question. You haven't looked at the original sources. You're going off second hand information. The transcript, for example, is condensed and edited. The full recording is easily accessible. You haven't viewed the apology, which contains his resignation also. If you had viewed it then you'd know that claiming the resignation was a face-saver entailed tarring the apology with the same brush. Reacting to the media's interpretation? Perlease. It speaks volumes that only two complaints were issued after the recording was aired and thousands more after the NON-STORY hit the rags.

MargaretR 30-10-2008 15:53

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I am wondering whether the BBC deliberately let this go to air uncensored.
This has provided them with a perfect excuse to get rid of an overpaid employee

jambutty 30-10-2008 16:04

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 645803)
I am wondering whether the BBC deliberately let this go to air uncensored.
This has provided them with a perfect excuse to get rid of an overpaid employee

What, Aunty Beeb being that devious? Surely not?

Such thinking deserves some Karma. Hopefully the system will allow it.

jaysay 30-10-2008 16:22

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Originally Posted by Margaret (Post 645803)
I am wondering whether the BBC deliberately let this go to air uncensored.
This has provided them with a perfect excuse to get rid of an overpaid employee

Didn't realise they had anyone at the Beeb with enough intelligence to think of that, just the stupidity to give them contracts in the first place;)

garinda 30-10-2008 17:46

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The contoller of Radio 2, Lesley Douglas, has resigned over this debacle, and Jonathon Ross has been suspended without pay for twelve weeks.

jambutty 30-10-2008 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645827)
The contoller of Radio 2, Lesley Douglas, has resigned over this debacle, and Jonathon Ross has been suspended without pay for twelve weeks.

So someone else has fallen on his sword but it looks like Ross is going to get away with it.

Maybe his contract is so water tight that sacking him is not an economical option.

But public pressure could still force him to resign.

katex 30-10-2008 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645827)
The contoller of Radio 2, Lesley Douglas, has resigned over this debacle, and Jonathon Ross has been suspended without pay for twelve weeks.

Does that mean Ross will be losing £1,384,613.30p then I wonder ... guess paying a high price .. sure he won't suffer though.

Seems a little sad about Lesley Douglas ... after all she controls all the other programmes on Radio 2, which in my opinion are excellent.

lindsay ormerod 30-10-2008 18:00

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Are none of you even at all bothered that the "lady" in the middle of this has admitted to having slept with Russell and is now plastered all over the tabloids discussing his "technique" ?
Hardly a shining example of misused and innocent is she?
She is getting the best publicity of her life by basically being a bit "loose".
Russell Brand will be snapped up by a commercial radio station within days, and Jonathon Ross isn't going to miss a few weeks wages.
It's not done any of them any harm, no one died.
End of.

( and for the record My Booky Wook is very funny!)

jambutty 30-10-2008 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 645839)
Does that mean Ross will be losing £1,384,613.30p then I wonder ... guess paying a high price .. sure he won't suffer though.

Seems a little sad about Lesley Douglas ... after all she controls all the other programmes on Radio 2, which in my opinion are excellent.

Wasn’t she also involved in the premium line phone calls scandal?

jambutty 30-10-2008 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 645840)
Are none of you even at all bothered that the "lady" in the middle of this has admitted to having slept with Russell and is now plastered all over the tabloids discussing his "technique" ?
Hardly a shining example of misused and innocent is she?
She is getting the best publicity of her life by basically being a bit "loose".
Russell Brand will be snapped up by a commercial radio station within days, and Jonathon Ross isn't going to miss a few weeks wages.
It's not done any of them any harm, no one died.
End of.

( and for the record My Booky Wook is very funny!)

This affair isn’t about the granddaughter but a lewd, scurrilous and slanderous remark made to and about Andrew Sachs.

Now that is ‘end of’.

katex 30-10-2008 18:13

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645844)
Wasn’t she also involved in the premium line phone calls scandal?

Seemingly, so suppose was her second hit .. still ...

Neil 30-10-2008 18:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 645773)
It speaks volumes that only two complaints were issued after the recording was aired and thousands more after the NON-STORY hit the rags.

I think it shows that the people that watch/listen to those 2 found it funny but a lot of other people on reading about it were shocked that the BBC could do that.


I did not listen to it and I think what was done was wrong.

cashman 30-10-2008 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 645850)
I think it shows that the people that watch/listen to those 2 found it funny but a lot of other people on reading about it were shocked that the BBC could do that.


I did not listen to it and I think what was done was wrong.

agree completely, what "Speaks Volumes" to me is obviously very few listen to these cretins, hence 2 complaints, also speaks volumes to me about the IQs of those few who do.:rolleyes:


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