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Gordie 29-11-2008 19:57
Mumbai what`s next
 
The curse of Islam strikes again.It has been reported that a number of
British nationals are responsible for this cowardly terrorist attack.
I am sure over the next few weeks we will be hearing first condemnation then justifiable excuses from the supporters of Islam in Britain. I am sure American and British Goverment policy will be held resposible for these
atrocities from these brainwashed Islamic fanatics.
We should all be deeply concerned when sections of our own society are
being brainwashed by Islamic fundamentalists.
When Britain gives these young men and there families a much better free of poverty and less restricted lifestyle than there motherland and they still have a hatred for all that the west represents

Royboy39 29-11-2008 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 655961)
The curse of Islam strikes again.It has been reported that a number of
British nationals are responsible for this cowardly terrorist attack.
I am sure over the next few weeks we will be hearing first condemnation then justifiable excuses from the supporters of Islam in Britain. I am sure American and British Goverment policy will be held resposible for these
atrocities from these brainwashed Islamic fanatics.
We should all be deeply concerned when sections of our own society are
being brainwashed by Islamic fundamentalists.
When Britain gives these young men and there families a much better free of poverty and less restricted lifestyle than there motherland and they still have a hatred for all that the west represents
Reported where?

entwisi 29-11-2008 21:30
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As opposed to the Christian CRusaders who terrorised merry hell out of teh world?

Islam is not the issue, fundamentalistic ideals are. Whilst I am Christian I have a number of GOOD Muslim friends and have no issue at all with their religion.

Unfortunately we do now live in a world where is its easy to hide these thoughts and tendancies. its also now so easy to think of and implement ways to inflict massive amounts of damage to people with little history or expertise. Should we therefore restrict our lives to limit this threat? I personally don't think so.

Benipete 29-11-2008 22:11
My only problem is when I go to the bar.
Two pints of lager and a packet of Mumbai mix:hidewall:

cashman 29-11-2008 22:31
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its also been reported MANY times that ELVIS is alive, some dumbells actually think its true.:rolleyes: when real facts emerge than yer statement may or may not have credence.:rolleyes:

Benipete 29-11-2008 22:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 656027)
its also been reported MANY times that ELVIS is alive, some dumbells actually think its true.:rolleyes: when real facts emerge than yer statement may or may not have credence.:rolleyes:
Oh and a bottle of clear water revival:alright:

jaysay 30-11-2008 10:34
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I really think the Gordie has a problem with Islam. Its not Islam that's the problem its Islamic Terrorist, a minority who read into a holy book things they want to here. Islam is a peace loving religion that is different to what most people in this country believe in namely Christianity, why should all Muslims be painted with the same brush because of the actions of a few fanatics

cashman 30-11-2008 12:41
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was listening to a "counter terrorism expert" on tv yesterday, she was saying that the norm is they are "Political Fanatics" not religious fanatics at all, thats a theory i subscribe to.

Gordie 30-11-2008 16:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 655995)
As opposed to the Christian CRusaders who terrorised merry hell out of teh world?

Islam is not the issue, fundamentalistic ideals are. Whilst I am Christian I have a number of GOOD Muslim friends and have no issue at all with their religion.

Unfortunately we do now live in a world where is its easy to hide these thoughts and tendancies. its also now so easy to think of and implement ways to inflict massive amounts of damage to people with little history or expertise. Should we therefore restrict our lives to limit this threat? I personally don't think so.
How christian crusaders who supposedly terrorised merry hell out of the world have got to do with what has happened in Mumbai I dont know.
Thats like quoting Henry V111 after a I R A atrocity.
I also have a number of good muslim friends and have no issue with any
religion when it is kept as a personal belief. I do have a issue when religious beliefs are used to maim and kill inoccent members of the public
who`s religion and culture is different from these terorrists
these beliefs are being taught and recruiting of tomorrows terrorists is taking place all over Britain today.
You say you dont have a issue with other religions I am the same but it appears some other religions do have a issue with the western countrys religions.

Gordie 30-11-2008 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 656178)
was listening to a "counter terrorism expert" on tv yesterday, she was saying that the norm is they are "Political Fanatics" not religious fanatics at all, thats a theory i subscribe to.
Try listening to a radio talk show when ethnic issues are discussed and members of these communities phone in.You will probably find political and religious veiws go side by side.

jaysay 30-11-2008 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 656212)
Try listening to a radio talk show when ethnic issues are discussed and members of these communities phone in.You will probably find political and religious veiws go side by side.
Why keep beating about the bush just admit you a racist, full stop

Gordie 01-12-2008 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656135)
I really think the Gordie has a problem with Islam. Its not Islam that's the problem its Islamic Terrorist, a minority who read into a holy book things they want to here. Islam is a peace loving religion that is different to what most people in this country believe in namely Christianity, why should all Muslims be painted with the same brush because of the actions of a few fanatics
I am not painting all muslims with the same brush.I have made references
over the last few weeks regarding problems with immigration.
It is a well known fact that Islamic extremists are indoctrinating some members of these ethnic communities in places of worship in parts
of Britain. You and a few more of your cliche are in total denial of any such problems

Gordie 01-12-2008 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656214)
Why keep beating about the bush just admit you a racist, full stop
I am no racist full stop.I just dont have my head buried in the sand.
I am sure you mean well but you are misguided to what is happening or in
denial.It does not make me a racist just because I have pointed out some of the problems that immigration as caused in the ethnic communities.It also does not help solving these problems by denial.

Less 01-12-2008 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 656421)
I am no racist full stop.I just dont have my head buried in the sand.
I am sure you mean well but you are misguided to what is happening or in
denial.It does not make me a racist just because I have pointed out some of the problems that immigration as caused in the ethnic communities.It also does not help solving these problems by denial.
The people that have answered you are not in denial, they are telling you a few truth's one of which is that by your attitude both in this and other deliberately inflammatory threads that you have started, you are a racist!

As much as you may deny this, I think they are right.

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jaysay 01-12-2008 16:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 656427)
The people that have answered you are not in denial, they are telling you a few truth's one of which is that by your attitude both in this and other deliberately inflammatory threads that you have started, you are a racist!

As much as you may deny this, I think they are right.

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Think we should direct him to Gayles leaving thread Less:D

Gordie 01-12-2008 18:16
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[quote=jaysay;656475]Think we should direct him to Gayles leaving thread Less:D[/quote

The non ethnic populations of Bradford Leeds Burnley etc well basically the majority of the Uk must be all like me racists according to you few

cashman 01-12-2008 18:34
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[QUOTE=Gordie;656529]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656475)
Think we should direct him to Gayles leaving thread Less:D[/quote

The non ethnic populations of Bradford Leeds Burnley etc well basically the majority of the Uk must be all like me racists according to you few
well basically all the members of the BNP are like you.:rolleyes:

Benipete 01-12-2008 18:40
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It would seem that the original post in this thread was a figment of the imagination.:jimbo::jimbo:

yerself 01-12-2008 18:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete.
It would seem that the original post in this thread was a figment of the imagination.
Whether you agree with Gordie or not it would seem there is some element of fact in his original post.

Arrested Mumbai gunmen 'of British descent' - Asia, World - The Independent

Mumbai attack: British men 'among the terrorists', Bombay, India - Telegraph

Benipete 01-12-2008 19:14
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Quote;It has been reported that a number of
British nationals are responsible for this cowardly terrorist attack.

That bit was alright the rest was conjecture.:gooddog:

katex 01-12-2008 19:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656214)
Why keep beating about the bush just admit you a racist, full stop
I'm not absolutely convinced there is anything wrong about being racist.

It's in us all naturally, as we are grouping animals. Just general cruelty and hatred to other groups and attacks against other groups for their existence that causes problems.

cashman 01-12-2008 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 656543)
I'm not absolutely convinced there is anything wrong about being racist.

It's in us all naturally, as we are grouping animals. Just general cruelty and hatred to other groups and attacks against other groups for their existence that causes problems.
oh well suppose that makes the Taliban good ole boys then.:rolleyes:

katex 01-12-2008 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 656560)
oh well suppose that makes the Taliban good ole boys then.:rolleyes:
That's not what I was trying to say Cashy and you know it. :p

cashman 01-12-2008 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 656543)
I'm not absolutely convinced there is anything wrong about being racist.

It's in us all naturally, as we are grouping animals. Just general cruelty and hatred to other groups and attacks against other groups for their existence that causes problems.
Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 656562)
That's not what I was trying to say Cashy and you know it. :p
then please explain.:p

Gordie 01-12-2008 23:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 656536)
It would seem that the original post in this thread was a figment of the imagination.:jimbo::jimbo:
Yes your imagination
My quote was of the latest intelligence report at the time
I am more aware of some of these issues than I am credited for on this site:alright:

Gordie 01-12-2008 23:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 656560)
oh well suppose that makes the Taliban good ole boys then.:rolleyes:
Now that is racist :rolleyes:

Gordie 01-12-2008 23:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 656541)
Quote;It has been reported that a number of
British nationals are responsible for this cowardly terrorist attack.

That bit was alright the rest was conjecture.:gooddog:
Nothing was conjecture in the rest either:tongueout

Gordie 02-12-2008 00:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 655963)
Reported where?
The independent and the Telegraph

Gordie 02-12-2008 00:08
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Just because it was not reported in the sun does not mean it is not reported else were

Eric 02-12-2008 02:59
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I think I agree with Gordie on this one. And I don't see where rascism comes into this discussion. I don't think that Islam is a "race". So the racist accusation is bs.

jaysay 02-12-2008 09:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 656543)
I'm not absolutely convinced there is anything wrong about being racist.

It's in us all naturally, as we are grouping animals. Just general cruelty and hatred to other groups and attacks against other groups for their existence that causes problems.
Very seldom I disagree with you kate, but I do on this one, I have never looked on the human race as animals, only a few feral members if it. I look on at life in a different way, I take people as I find them, irrespective of race, creed or colour, and until somebody does me a wrong its live and let live, and in my experience I have far more to be wary of my own kind than other races. The only thing I will say is that the immigration open door policy needs changing, there is nothing any one can do about about people already living here, some are now third generation and are as British as everybody else, but in the present climate when unemployment is going up every day, excepting people from all over the world must be curtailed or our vital services will buckle under the stain.

jaysay 02-12-2008 09:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 656608)
I think I agree with Gordie on this one. And I don't see where rascism comes into this discussion. I don't think that Islam is a "race". So the racist accusation is bs.
No Eric but Gordie is treating Islam as a race, and the fact that he is taking all Muslims as terrorist, when they aren't, only very few are terrorist the rest are as peace loving as you and me.

Eric 02-12-2008 19:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 656560)
oh well suppose that makes the Taliban good ole boys then.:rolleyes:
Nope. The "good ole boys" are in places like Montana ... you know, the Aryan Nations White Supremacist nutbars. The Taliban are, like it or not, part of the fabric of Afghan culture and society ... and I don't see that the Western Allies, my own countrymen and women among them, have any right, god-given or otherwise, to interfere in how the Afghans run their country.

I also agree with Kate.

steeljack 03-12-2008 06:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656647)
No Eric but Gordie is treating Islam as a race, and the fact that he is taking all Muslims as terrorist, when they aren't, only very few are terrorist the rest are as peace loving as you and me.
Think Gordie is correct in this instance , nationalism is a 'new' concept to many muslims , the idea of "my country, right or wrong" is an alien concept , the loyalty is to Islam first and country second . Saying that , I must add that I think the 'West' is responsible for a lot of the problems since we created most of these countries through our colonialism (same with Africa) .

jaysay 03-12-2008 09:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 656887)
Think Gordie is correct in this instance , nationalism is a 'new' concept to many muslims , the idea of "my country, right or wrong" is an alien concept , the loyalty is to Islam first and country second . Saying that , I must add that I think the 'West' is responsible for a lot of the problems since we created most of these countries through our colonialism (same with Africa) .
Well I agree and disagree SJ, I agree about the colonialism bit, look what a mess we made of America:Dbut on Islam I can't agree, okay Muslims put more emphasis on religion than we do on Christianity, but the majority no more agree with terrorism than I do, plain and simple

Gordie 03-12-2008 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656909)
Well I agree and disagree SJ, I agree about the colonialism bit, look what a mess we made of America:Dbut on Islam I can't agree, okay Muslims put more emphasis on religion than we do on Christianity, but the majority no more agree with terrorism than I do, plain and simple
I am sure you are a very good hearted and a well meaning person but very misguided and way out of touch.Your overwhelming need to run down the west and defend any comments regarding islam or ethnic issues draws you to jump to coclusions with my quotes and play the racist card plain and simple.

Less 03-12-2008 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657045)
I am sure you are a very good hearted and a well meaning person but very misguided and way out of touch.Your overwhelming need to run down the west and defend any comments regarding islam or ethnic issues draws you to jump to coclusions with my quotes and play the racist card plain and simple.
Why do you think you know better & can teach the members on here to think the way you do?

You put forward your ideas and they have basically been rejected, perhaps, we prefer our ignorance rather than have you tell us what to think?

Or,

Maybe you're wrong?

Sorry I apologise, how could that be possible?

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Gordie 03-12-2008 20:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 657049)
Why do you think you know better & can teach the members on here to think the way you do?

You put forward your ideas and they have basically been rejected, perhaps, we prefer our ignorance rather than have you tell us what to think?

Or,

Maybe you're wrong?

Sorry I apologise, how could that be possible?

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Maybe it is because I worked has a immigration officer for four years:alright:

cashman 03-12-2008 20:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657075)
Maybe it is because I worked has a immigration officer for four years:alright:
i would have got a job like that,but me english wasn't good enough.:hehetable

MargaretR 03-12-2008 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657075)
Maybe it is because I worked has a immigration officer for four years:alright:
That Civil Service career didn't last long - wonder why:rolleyes:

Gordie 03-12-2008 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 657078)
i would have got a job like that,but me english wasn't good enough.:hehetable
How could it be anything else but good english frequenting sydney street wmc
it`s cowd toneet gis a pint of thee mild

cashman 03-12-2008 21:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657105)
How could it be anything else but good english frequenting sydney street wmc
it`s cowd toneet gis a pint of thee mild
right again Gordie:D i don't frequent it, i appear there.:tongueout

Gordie 03-12-2008 21:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 657080)
That Civil Service career didn't last long - wonder why:rolleyes:
I seen the light and resigned :rolleyes:

Eric 03-12-2008 21:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 657078)
i would have got a job like that,but me english wasn't good enough.:hehetable
I noticed that too; but I was too polite to mention it;) Oops wrong thread:eek:

Royboy39 03-12-2008 21:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 657049)
Why do you think you know better & can teach the members on here to think the way you do?

You put forward your ideas and they have basically been rejected, perhaps, we prefer our ignorance rather than have you tell us what to think?

Or,

Maybe you're wrong?

Sorry I apologise, how could that be possible?

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Sorry Geordie...you seem to have been shot down by the great I am.
If you have got an opinion and wish to enlighten the members on here of your experiences, thats your shout.....go for it. ;)

Gordie 03-12-2008 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 657080)
That Civil Service career didn't last long - wonder why:rolleyes:
I am going to sign your petition Maggie
that sounds a bit like a verse in a song ;)

Eric 03-12-2008 21:47
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I don't think Gordie is doing much more than voicing what a lot of people are thinking ... a quick eyeballing of what is going on around the world reveals that a lot of bad crap is going on ... now, if one wishes to assign the blame to GW and American military and economic imperialism, one can make a point ... if one condemns militant Islam, one can make equally valid points. Or perhaps it is a clash of values, or the last gasp of Manifest Destiny etc, etc, .... but all Islamic states grew out of Islam, and in many cases it is impossible to separate their religion from their politics ... this identity of religion and politics can be found in some areas of the Bible Belt in the US (and the governor's mansion in Alaska), but it is not as wide spread, or as readily accepted as it is in the Islamic world. But I do believe that militant Isalm poses as great a threat to world peace as global warming does to the environment ... I realise a lot of people don't accept this, which is cool, .... but a lot of people don't "believe" in global warming either.

Royboy39 03-12-2008 21:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 657114)
I don't think Gordie is doing much more than voicing what a lot of people are thinking ... a quick eyeballing of what is going on around the world reveals that a lot of bad crap is going on ... now, if one wishes to assign the blame to GW and American military and economic imperialism, one can make a point ... if one condemns militant Islam, one can make equally valid points. Or perhaps it is a clash of values, or the last gasp of Manifest Destiny etc, etc, .... but all Islamic states grew out of Islam, and in many cases it is impossible to separate their religion from their politics ... this identity of religion and politics can be found in some areas of the Bible Belt in the US (and the governor's mansion in Alaska), but it is not as wide spread, or as readily accepted as it is in the Islamic world. But I do believe that militant Isalm poses as great a threat to world peace as global warming does to the environment ... I realise a lot of people don't accept this, which is cool, .... but a lot of people don't "believe" in global warming either.
Careful Eric this is bordering on taboo. :eek:

cashman 03-12-2008 22:04
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dont think anyone is disputing "Militant Islam" poses a great threat Eric, just dont like the way he lumps em all in the same pot, in some posts, then not in others, that says to me, not wired up right.

Gordie 03-12-2008 22:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 657120)
dont think anyone is disputing "Militant Islam" poses a great threat Eric, just dont like the way he lumps em all in the same pot, in some posts, then not in others, that says to me, not wired up right.
Your singing from one hymn book to another.Your quote dont think anyone is disputing Millitant Islam. You have disputed basically everything I have posted.
Different posts different topics.That say`s to me you are the one with crossed wires.

cashman 03-12-2008 22:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657125)
Your singing from one hymn book to another.Your quote dont think anyone is disputing Millitant Islam. You have disputed basically everything I have posted.
Different posts different topics.That say`s to me you are the one with crossed wires.
perhaps its cos i don't believe you?:rolleyes:

Eric 03-12-2008 23:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 657115)
Careful Eric this is bordering on taboo. :eek:
Yeah, I know that ... now that the US election is over I shouldn't really be making fun of Sarah Palin:o

jaysay 04-12-2008 09:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 657045)
I am sure you are a very good hearted and a well meaning person but very misguided and way out of touch.Your overwhelming need to run down the west and defend any comments regarding islam or ethnic issues draws you to jump to coclusions with my quotes and play the racist card plain and simple.
I'm not playing any racist card, the fact is that people like you try to paint all Muslims with the same brush. We see it every day people making decisions that effect Muslims, but are not subscribed to by them, but by politically correct numpties, like doing away with Christmas and calling it winter festival amongst others. Only his morning its been reported that staff at Greenwood Junior School in Sneinton Nottingham have cancelled a nativity play and put it back to January, because it clashes with Eid. A mother who has two children at the school said that her children would be celebrating Eid for two days next week but couldn't see why the nativity play couldn't go ahead later, before Christmas. So if you think that things like this is playing the race card, just shows what a narrow minded view of life you have. The fact is that a lot of people having a say on this actually live here in Hyndburn and don't have a problem. The fact that you have said on here that you moved to Ireland because of what you say is a problem with Islam shows you up for what you are a bigot

Gordie 07-12-2008 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 657193)
I'm not playing any racist card, the fact is that people like you try to paint all Muslims with the same brush. We see it every day people making decisions that effect Muslims, but are not subscribed to by them, but by politically correct numpties, like doing away with Christmas and calling it winter festival amongst others. Only his morning its been reported that staff at Greenwood Junior School in Sneinton Nottingham have cancelled a nativity play and put it back to January, because it clashes with Eid. A mother who has two children at the school said that her children would be celebrating Eid for two days next week but couldn't see why the nativity play couldn't go ahead later, before Christmas. So if you think that things like this is playing the race card, just shows what a narrow minded view of life you have. The fact is that a lot of people having a say on this actually live here in Hyndburn and don't have a problem. The fact that you have said on here that you moved to Ireland because of what you say is a problem with Islam shows you up for what you are a bigot
Just take in what you have typed above regarding Nottingham it shows you up for what you are.You are no different from the members of staff at
Greenwood junior school and because I dont agree you say I am a bigot and a racist.Hundreds of thousands who are fortunate to be able to leave
Britain do so because of the worsening situation and you say the majority are happy with the likes of the example you stated in Nottingham.I can only say you must be nuts.

Less 07-12-2008 15:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658078)
Just take in what you have typed above regarding Nottingham it shows you up for what you are.You are no different from the members of staff at
Greenwood junior school and because I dont agree you say I am a bigot and a racist.Hundreds of thousands who are fortunate to be able to leave
Britain do so because of the worsening situation and you say the majority are happy with the likes of the example you stated in Nottingham.I can only say you must be nuts.
Did you read what he said backwards? I don't get the same meaning from his post as you seem to.

Why not go for a few drinks with your Irish mates and tell them what a wonderful job you thought Cromwell did?

You will soon learn about prejudice!

Neil 07-12-2008 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 656427)
The people that have answered you are not in denial, they are telling you a few truth's one of which is that by your attitude both in this and other deliberately inflammatory threads that you have started, you are a racist!
Is he racist or religionist?

katex 07-12-2008 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 658088)
Is he racist or religionist?
According to the United Nations Neil, racial discrimination can take the form of race or ethnic groups. Discrimination, of course, is a different ballgame, as against having a disapproval of such groups.

Neil 07-12-2008 16:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 658090)
According to the United Nations Neil, racial discrimination can take the form of race or ethnic groups. Discrimination, of course, is a different ballgame, as against having a disapproval of such groups.

Maybe Kate but I see them as separate. You can dislike the members of a religion without disliking the race those people come from. Especially when members of a religion can and do come from many races.

MargaretR 07-12-2008 16:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 658092)
Maybe Kate but I see them as separate. You can dislike the members of a religion without disliking the race those people come from. Especially when members of a religion can and do come from many races.
I dislike Jehovahs witnesses - doorknocking fundamentalists:mad:, but white people in general - I am OK with

Neil 07-12-2008 17:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 658097)
I dislike Jehovahs witnesses - doorknocking fundamentalists:mad:, but white people in general - I am OK with
Why do you dislike them?

MargaretR 07-12-2008 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 658100)
Why do you dislike them?
Because they invade my space without invitation

Less 07-12-2008 19:40
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 658112)
Because they invade my space without invitation
Are all Americans Jehovahs witnesses or are all Jehovahs witnesses Americans?

They both seem to invade peoples spaces without invitation!

jaysay 08-12-2008 09:24
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 658112)
Because they invade my space without invitation
They don't call on me anymore Margaret, when I see them in the area I put a notice on the door saying, "My Alsatian loves Jehovah's Witnesses, but he can't eat a full one":D

jaysay 08-12-2008 09:27
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658078)
Just take in what you have typed above regarding Nottingham it shows you up for what you are.You are no different from the members of staff at
Greenwood junior school and because I dont agree you say I am a bigot and a racist.Hundreds of thousands who are fortunate to be able to leave
Britain do so because of the worsening situation and you say the majority are happy with the likes of the example you stated in Nottingham.I can only say you must be nuts.
Can't remember many people moving to Ireland myself, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, Spain, but Ireland:confused:

Gordie 08-12-2008 20:57
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 658260)
Can't remember many people moving to Ireland myself, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA, Spain, but Ireland:confused:
You obviously don`t remember very much then do you.:confused:
France,Portugal,Italy.Holland,Belgium,Norway,Germa ny,Brazil,all the African countries the list is endless.
There is over 240.00 British nationals living in the Republic of Ireland according to the latest census report and thats out of a population of around 4 million so you really dont know whats going on around you.
You say but Ireland ? Every parent can expect there children to start school with English speeking children and not be held back because of some immigrants choosing to teach there children there mother tongue first before English.Also there is almost full employment resulting in most people being able to spend money e.g no pound shops.It is only when you travel around the world when you see the bigger picture and wonder why parts of Britain have gone backwards and citizens of countrys that where once regarded as being poor are much more prosperous than the British today.I blame the do gooders eg the staff members and the likes of the school in Nottingham that you quoted.God save the Queen is that still allowed to be said ?

Royboy39 08-12-2008 21:04
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658519)
You obviously don`t remember very much then do you.:confused:
France,Portugal,Italy.Holland,Belgium,Norway,Germa ny,Brazil,all the African countries the list is endless.
There is over 240.00 British nationals living in the Republic of Ireland according to the latest census report and thats out of a population of around 4 million so you really dont know whats going on around you.
You say but Ireland ? Every parent can expect there children to start school with English speeking children and not be held back because of some immigrants choosing to teach there children there mother tongue first before English.Also there is almost full employment resulting in most people being able to spend money e.g no pound shops.It is only when you travel around the world when you see the bigger picture and wonder why parts of Britain have gone backwards and citizens of countrys that where once regarded as being poor are much more prosperous than the British today.I blame the do gooders eg the staff members and the likes of the school in Nottingham.
Geordie I think you may have a few good point in that but split it up into different subjects....That way you won't get 'Jumped On'

Benipete 08-12-2008 21:38
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658519)
You obviously don`t remember very much then do you.:confused:
France,Portugal,Italy.Holland,Belgium,Norway,Germa ny,Brazil,all the African countries the list is endless.
There is over 240.00 British nationals living in the Republic of Ireland according to the latest census report and thats out of a population of around 4 million so you really dont know whats going on around you.
You say but Ireland ? Every parent can expect there children to start school with English speeking children and not be held back because of some immigrants choosing to teach there children there mother tongue first before English.Also there is almost full employment resulting in most people being able to spend money e.g no pound shops.It is only when you travel around the world when you see the bigger picture and wonder why parts of Britain have gone backwards and citizens of countrys that where once regarded as being poor are much more prosperous than the British today.I blame the do gooders eg the staff members and the likes of the school in Nottingham that you quoted.God save the Queen is that still allowed to be said ?
Ah but praise the Lord they have sent the contaminated pig
to save us all.:hehetable

Gordie 08-12-2008 22:13
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 658097)
I dislike Jehovahs witnesses - doorknocking fundamentalists:mad:, but white people in general - I am OK with
I could never dislike Jehovahs witnesses and can not understand anyone who could.They may knock on your door at awkward times so what.I have never found any of them rude or impolite when declining there offers of seeing the light.

Gordie 08-12-2008 22:22
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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 658533)
Ah but praise the Lord they have sent the contaminated pig
to save us all.:hehetable
Some people say you are a bit of a animal is that because you do a lot of grunting

Royboy39 08-12-2008 22:24
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658547)
I could never dislike Jehovahs witnesses and can not understand anyone who could.They may knock on your door at awkward times so what.I have never found any of them rude or impolite when declining there offers of seeing the light.
I think youv've got the makings of an eejut....no wonder you have got so many Robins....I think it maybe the time that you saw the light.
Read the many posts on here and digest what is being said.
Doctrine in anyway shape or form is, as I gather not appreciated, so sod off and do your preaching elsewhere.

Gordie 08-12-2008 22:38
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 658258)
They don't call on me anymore Margaret, when I see them in the area I put a notice on the door saying, "My Alsatian loves Jehovah's Witnesses, but he can't eat a full one":D
That`s not just discourteous but is discrimination against the Jehovahs community a peace loving belief or is that ok for you because they are mainly white or is only Islam peace loving as quoted by you earlier.When people dont agree with Islam they are racist and bigots in your book.:confused:

lancsdave 08-12-2008 22:47
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658519)
Also there is almost full employment
According to the offical figures unemployment in Ireland is at a 10 year high of 7.8%. The UK rate is 6.7%

cashman 08-12-2008 22:50
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658556)
That`s not just discourteous but is discrimination against the Jehovahs community a peace loving belief or is that ok for you because they are mainly white or is only Islam peace loving as quoted by you earlier.When people dont agree with Islam they are racist and bigots in your book.:confused:
thats not discrimination, its called a sense of humour, n they call the irish thick.:rolleyes:

Benipete 08-12-2008 22:51
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658547)
I could never dislike Jehovahs witnesses and can not understand anyone who could.They may knock on your door at awkward times so what.I have never found any of them rude or impolite when declining there offers of seeing the light.
In that case leave me in the dark and get back to your own money grabbing web site.:jimbo::jimbo:

Benipete 08-12-2008 22:58
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658549)
Some people say you are a bit of a animal is that because you do a lot of grunting
No I just choose where I get my feed.:tongueout

Gordie 08-12-2008 23:09
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 658551)
I think youv've got the makings of an eejut....no wonder you have got so many Robins....I think it maybe the time that you saw the light.
Read the many posts on here and digest what is being said.
Doctrine in anyway shape or form is, as I gather not appreciated, so sod off and do your preaching elsewhere.
I am well aware of the many posts from the cliche on here and enjoy winding them up.I am no more religious than the next man.
I have no hatred towards any race or creed although some of my quotes have been cunfused with my disagreement on ethnic issues

Gordie 08-12-2008 23:18
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 658563)
According to the offical figures unemployment in Ireland is at a 10 year high of 7.8%. The UK rate is 6.7%
Well that could be correct the last 6 months have been devastating in the building trade and the last 2 months in other sectors.
I was talking in general over the last 10 years where there as been almost full employment.

cashman 08-12-2008 23:24
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658576)
Well that could be correct the last 6 months have been devastating in the building trade and the last 2 months in other sectors.
I was talking in general over the last 10 years where there as been almost full employment.
that conflicts with what i discovered from friends n family that live approx 7 miles out of dublin, was oer 5/6 yrs back.:confused: it did seem to be better than ours,but didn't seem too great.

jaysay 09-12-2008 03:09
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658556)
That`s not just discourteous but is discrimination against the Jehovahs community a peace loving belief or is that ok for you because they are mainly white or is only Islam peace loving as quoted by you earlier.When people dont agree with Islam they are racist and bigots in your book.:confused:
I don't mind any religion so long as they don't come peddling it at my front door, can't ever remember a Muslin doing that;)

Gordie 10-12-2008 19:24
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 658578)
that conflicts with what i discovered from friends n family that live approx 7 miles out of dublin, was oer 5/6 yrs back.:confused: it did seem to be better than ours,but didn't seem too great.
Ask a lazy man who does not want work or defends lazy family members and you will always hear conflicting reports.The celtic tiger of the past ten years was almost full employment of course they will always be people who can not find the exact job that they want and will accept nothing else except employment benefit :confused:
try changing from the sun to the independant

Gordie 10-12-2008 19:29
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:kill:
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 658594)
I don't mind any religion so long as they don't come peddling it at my front door, can't ever remember a Muslin doing that;)
No they just blow the train up that your traveling on ;):hesoff:
:kill:

Eric 10-12-2008 19:38
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658960)
:kill:

No they just blow the train up that your traveling on ;):hesoff:
:kill:
You got a point there, Gordie ... no one ever died from having a copy of the Watch Tower shoved in his face ... but some strategically placed plastic explosive can really interupt the flow of your day:eek:

cashman 10-12-2008 20:03
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658957)
Ask a lazy man who does not want work or defends lazy family members and you will always hear conflicting reports.The celtic tiger of the past ten years was almost full employment of course they will always be people who can not find the exact job that they want and will accept nothing else except employment benefit :confused:
try changing from the sun to the independant
thats why ya come across as a complete cretin, if thats what ya think, how the irish tolerate someone like you is totally beyond me, then i don't think ya tell em the truth.:rolleyes:

Gordie 10-12-2008 20:40
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 658970)
thats why ya come across as a complete cretin, if thats what ya think, how the irish tolerate someone like you is totally beyond me, then i don't think ya tell em the truth.:rolleyes:
Your supposedly facts from your family are wrong full stop and I am guessing you are aware of that or your just a cretin.If you are trying to prove me wrong I suggest you get your facts right first because you only look a fool quoting I dont think ya tell em the truth when most people are aware that Ireland had the celtic tiger for the last ten years.Your not in a nursing home without a tv and newspapers are you ? If you are I apologise most sincerely.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

Gordie 10-12-2008 20:44
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 658962)
You got a point there, Gordie ... no one ever died from having a copy of the Watch Tower shoved in his face ... but some strategically placed plastic explosive can really interupt the flow of your day:eek:
Exactly,well said Eric :thankya:

cashman 10-12-2008 21:23
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no my foolish ex-pat, have relatives who have very good jobs, n he told me he was very worried as things had slackened off considerably in his business, but why i should explain to a clown like you i do not know.

Gordie 10-12-2008 23:49
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 659001)
no my foolish ex-pat, have relatives who have very good jobs, n he told me he was very worried as things had slackened off considerably in his business, but why i should explain to a clown like you i do not know.
Well if you would have explained better without trying to be arrogant I would not have misunderstood you.We all know some people will decline work when employment is good with all kinds of excuses so no country can have full employment.Ireland is no exception to this with a lot of the colleges here full of buskers and so called art students living of unemployment benefits :D

LancYorkYankee 11-12-2008 00:35
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 658140)
Are all Americans Jehovahs witnesses or are all Jehovahs witnesses Americans?

They both seem to invade peoples spaces without invitation!
Aw Less, and I thought we had almost becomes mates!

Just a tad of an interuption but very few Americans are J.W.'s. I'm not sure if it's solely American based or not.

But yeah I agree many Americans can be pretty pushy. On behalf of such, I apologize on my country's behalf!;)

Brian

Eric 11-12-2008 02:20
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 659037)
Aw Less, and I thought we had almost becomes mates!

Just a tad of an interuption but very few Americans are J.W.'s. I'm not sure if it's solely American based or not.

But yeah I agree many Americans can be pretty pushy. On behalf of such, I apologize on my country's behalf!;)

Brian
You know bud, a lot of this stuff starts with the kind of thinking that inspired the otherwise great Samuel Johsnon to say: "I am willing to love all mankind, except an american (sic)";) But I think more like Arnold Toynbee, who said, "America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room. Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.";):D

jaysay 11-12-2008 08:57
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658960)
:kill:

No they just blow the train up that your traveling on ;):hesoff:
:kill:
There you go again taring all Muslims with the same brush and you say your not a racist. I think you'd b better off reading the Beano never mind the Independent, the Beano is more on your intellectual level:rolleyes:

cashman 11-12-2008 16:36
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 658578)
that conflicts with what i discovered from friends n family that live approx 7 miles out of dublin, was oer 5/6 yrs back.:confused: it did seem to be better than ours,but didn't seem too great.
Thats trying to prove you wrong, also arrogant?:confused:

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658957)
Ask a lazy man who does not want work or defends lazy family members and you will always hear conflicting reports.The celtic tiger of the past ten years was almost full employment of course they will always be people who can not find the exact job that they want and will accept nothing else except employment benefit :confused:
try changing from the sun to the independant
this is how you responded, infering my family n friends are lazy.!

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 658980)
Your supposedly facts from your family are wrong full stop and I am guessing you are aware of that or your just a cretin.If you are trying to prove me wrong I suggest you get your facts right first because you only look a fool quoting I dont think ya tell em the truth when most people are aware that Ireland had the celtic tiger for the last ten years.Your not in a nursing home without a tv and newspapers are you ? If you are I apologise most sincerely.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
i am well aware of the situation, if you can manage to read properly, all i said was my info conficts with yer almost "Full Employment" fer last 10yrs.:confused:

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 659001)
no my foolish ex-pat, have relatives who have very good jobs, n he told me he was very worried as things had slackened off considerably in his business, but why i should explain to a clown like you i do not know.
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 659034)
Well if you would have explained better without trying to be arrogant I would not have misunderstood you.We all know some people will decline work when employment is good with all kinds of excuses so no country can have full employment.Ireland is no exception to this with a lot of the colleges here full of buskers and so called art students living of unemployment benefits :D
now yer saying no country can have full employment:confused: thats not rocket science, everyones aware of that fact. so cos someone disagrees with your comments, they are arrogant, carry on as you are, i will let others make their own minds up.:rolleyes:

polly 11-12-2008 16:47
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 659041)
You know bud, a lot of this stuff starts with the kind of thinking that inspired the otherwise great Samuel Johsnon to say: "I am willing to love all mankind, except an american (sic)";) But I think more like Arnold Toynbee, who said, "America is a large, friendly dog in a very small room. Every time it wags its tail, it knocks over a chair.";):D
No surely that should read:
............. a large, untrained dog...................

Eric 11-12-2008 17:51
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Originally Posted by polly (Post 659171)
No surely that should read:
............. a large, untrained dog...................
Aw, 'cmon ... these are my neighbours you are talking about;)

Gordie 11-12-2008 21:52
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 659163)
Thats trying to prove you wrong, also arrogant?:confused:

this is how you responded, infering my family n friends are lazy.!

i am well aware of the situation, if you can manage to read properly, all i said was my info conficts with yer almost "Full Employment" fer last 10yrs.:confused:



now yer saying no country can have full employment:confused: thats not rocket science, everyones aware of that fact. so cos someone disagrees with your comments, they are arrogant, carry on as you are, i will let others make their own minds up.:rolleyes:
Yes I am saying no country can have full employment because there will always be people claiming unemployment benefit for reasons explained.
What I quoted earlier cretin was Ireland had almost full employment. There was obviously no listed jobs for wanna be astronauts.Regarding the fact that someone disagrees with my comments makes them arrogant thats untrue only you have been.This nonsense is because I dont agree with you on ethnic issues and you are constantly trying to prove me wrong unsuccessfully.Regarding me inferring your family was lazy I was quoting a saying ( ask a lazy man why he has no work) and you will always hear conflicting reports.
Your quote I will let others make their minds up. Are these others going to be members of your little cliche clown :tongueout

cashman 11-12-2008 22:05
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ah well spit yer dummy out gordie, the comment was nothing to do with yer view on other issues. n as fer my clique as you call it, further proves to me what a pathetic man you are.:rolleyes: keep up the good work.

cashman 11-12-2008 23:45
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well as its getting that time of the year, have a good un, mind ya can't miss wi that "Porter" wicked stuff.:D may be over meself next year.

jaysay 12-12-2008 09:36
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 659307)
ah well spit yer dummy out gordie, the comment was nothing to do with yer view on other issues. n as fer my clique as you call it, further proves to me what a pathetic man you are.:rolleyes: keep up the good work.
Man cashy, thats being generous to say the least:D


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