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jaysay 03-12-2008 09:05

Do you still have manners
 
Was reading an article the other day which said that people in this country no longer have manners, no one says please and thank you any more. Well I would think that's an insult to many people, especially the older end. I for one have always said please and thank you, because that how I was brought up, and I haven't changed. Irrespective of who I am dealing with its the right thing to do, especially now that I have to rely so much on other people, so I'm only to grateful for any one's help. Doesn't mater to me whether its my close family or mates who give up their time just to spend the odd hour to say hello mate how are you, I always say thanks for coming. Do you think we have lost our manners or not?

BERNADETTE 03-12-2008 09:11

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I certainly haven't like you I was brought up to be polite and I still am. I drummed it into my kids and my grandchildren have none since they were babies that if they don't use the "magic" word they don't get. Having said that I do think society in general has let their manners slip and it is a shame, it costs nothing to be polite.

Studio25 03-12-2008 09:25

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My 17-year-old stepson has had a bubble wrapped upbringing because of two, life-changing, quite harrowing events (for a child). However, it means historically, he's always been given what he wants, so now he never says "please" or "thank you" (among his other problems). He doesn't ask for anything from me, because he knows he won't get unless he makes the effort.

It's second nature with my nine-year-old, though. He realises what he's done immediately if he has one of his very occasional lapses...

garinda 03-12-2008 09:41

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Bad manners, especially not saying please and thank you, drives me mad.

I may be guilty of bad manners myself when I see it, as very often, when being served in a shop for example, and the amount required is just stated, and any change is given without any form of social nicety passing the person's lips, I very often ask them why I don't deserve a please or thank you.

It crosses all age barriers.

I watch Eggheads on television, and the host, at the moment Jeremy Vine, asks the contestants if they's like to go first or second. About half of the people asked reply with a brusque 'first/second', to the accompaniment of my shouts of 'please!'

jaysay 03-12-2008 09:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 656916)
Bad manners, especially not saying please and thank you, drives me mad.

I may be guilty of bad manners myself when I see it, as very often, when being served in a shop for example, and the amount required is just stated, and any change is given without any form of social nicety passing the person's lips, I very often ask them why I don't deserve a please or thank you.

It crosses all age barriers.

I watch Eggheads on television, and the host, at the moment Jeremy Vine, asks the contestants if they's like to go first or second. About half of the people asked reply with a brusque 'first/second', to the accompaniment of my shouts of 'please!'

Can't agree more Rindi, the magic words just come out naturally to me, even on the telephone, it just comes out without thinking

bondi38 03-12-2008 10:05

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Yes it certainly annoys me and i seem to get it more in supermarkets and shops with the younger generation being the shop assistants so who do we hold respsonsible for that i know does anyone else.

Benipete 03-12-2008 13:11

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I remember my daughter coming running in one day when she was about five shouting Ice cream Ice cream.Her mother said what's the magic word.

She thought for a while and then said.

Abracadabra! Still laugh at that one.:hehetable

jambutty 03-12-2008 13:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656904)
Was reading an article the other day which said that people in this country no longer have manners, no one says please and thank you any more. Well I would think that's an insult to many people, especially the older end. I for one have always said please and thank you, because that how I was brought up, and I haven't changed. Irrespective of who I am dealing with its the right thing to do, especially now that I have to rely so much on other people, so I'm only to grateful for any one's help. Doesn't mater to me whether its my close family or mates who give up their time just to spend the odd hour to say hello mate how are you, I always say thanks for coming. Do you think we have lost our manners or not?

In short and in the main the answer is yes.

I know that there are times when I get some funny looks when I say please when asking for something and then thank you after receiving it.

Excuse me is another phrase that seems to have gone AWOL. People just push past you these days – even some of the older generation.

fc:stanley 03-12-2008 13:53

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Manners Cost Nothing.

Less 03-12-2008 14:21

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Yes, basically I have.
However I find that there is an increasing number of people from all generations that can be considered ill mannered.

The young people that have been dragged up to know, no better, fortunately most aren't of that ilk, (thank you, parents with standards).

The women of any age that sneer at you rather than say thank you because you held a door open, (strange that one, I also hold doors open for men of all ages and usually get thanked).

The older generation, that think because they have managed to reach that age they can demand people to be courteous, while they push the same folk to one side.

We all can and should be a little better mannered, it's when we all give up and act like the worst examples instead of attempting to maintain standards that things will go completely wrong.

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Neil 03-12-2008 14:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 656916)
Jeremy Vine, asks the contestants if they's like to go first or second. About half of the people asked reply with a brusque 'first/second'

Do the other half not understand the question :confused:

Mick 03-12-2008 14:45

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Less, Me & Benipete all have manners .............we always say thankyou to anyone that buys us a pint:drink::drink::drink: thankyou :D

Eric 03-12-2008 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656904)
Was reading an article the other day which said that people in this country no longer have manners, no one says please and thank you any more. Well I would think that's an insult to many people, especially the older end. I for one have always said please and thank you, because that how I was brought up, and I haven't changed. Irrespective of who I am dealing with its the right thing to do, especially now that I have to rely so much on other people, so I'm only to grateful for any one's help. Doesn't mater to me whether its my close family or mates who give up their time just to spend the odd hour to say hello mate how are you, I always say thanks for coming. Do you think we have lost our manners or not?

Yes I do have manners .... and thanks a bunch for asking;):D

jaysay 03-12-2008 15:56

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 656998)
Yes I do have manners .... and thanks a bunch for asking;):D

Don't mention it:D

Eric 03-12-2008 16:24

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I know the risks of making sweeping generalizations; however, I will say that, in general, Canadians are a well-mannered bunch ... particularly outside of the GTA, which, like all large cities is a little cold and unfriendly. Maybe it has to do with the "small town" atmosphere which informs our society. Sometimes the politeness seems to go a little overboard into formality, but it is still there. There are areas of Canada, particularly the Maritime provinces and the Prairie provinces which are renowned for having a large number of just downright really nice, polite and helpful folks.

There are aspects of this politeness that annoy me a little; one is, "have a nice day.":mad: I sometimes respond with "no thanks, I've made other plans." None take this the wrong way, and it sometimes raises a slight giggle or two.

Meccy 03-12-2008 16:49

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Manners maketh the man.

MargaretR 03-12-2008 17:05

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 657003)

There are aspects of this politeness that annoy me a little; one is, "have a nice day.":mad: I sometimes respond with "no thanks, I've made other plans." None take this the wrong way, and it sometimes raises a slight giggle or two.

So you were delighted with the George Carling 'have a nice day' youtube clip I sent you in your birthday thread;)?
I thought his attitude would be the same as yours

Eric 03-12-2008 18:19

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 657009)
So you were delighted with the George Carling 'have a nice day' youtube clip I sent you in your birthday thread;)?
I thought his attitude would be the same as yours

Thanx hon ... just found the birthday thread ... I thought that it might pass without comment ... however, I enjoyed reading everyone's good wishes, and I loved the Carlin clip:alright:

At the risk of being overly polite: thanks a bunch, and all you guys over the pond "have a nice day, eh!":dancedog:

And now back to the constitutional crisis raging in Ottawa .... I know that the foreign media will, as usual, ignore news from here .... but the crisis shows that we are anything but boring in the Great White North. Polite, yes, but never as boring as some think we are.

derekgas 03-12-2008 18:23

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Please can we stop banging our heads on the wall in regard to expecting manners from the mannerless? Thank you! :D

Eric 03-12-2008 19:31

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 657035)
Please can we stop banging our heads on the wall in regard to expecting manners from the mannerless? Thank you! :D

You are welcome:D

lindsay ormerod 03-12-2008 20:16

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My daughter gets a lift to school every day and the husband and wife who share this duty told me just the other week that she never fails to say thank you and is entertaining and polite , more so than her peers. That makes me very proud, I feel it's a job well done, and I appreciate good manners in others too, I hold doors open for others and offer my seat on public transport, must be an upbringing thang!
I have now started to ignore customers who spend the transaction talking on their mobile, I just stand there, mute, until they raise their eyebrows and wonder what's taking so long....... " Hang up you ignoramus":rolleyes:

Benipete 03-12-2008 20:38

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Quote;
I have now started to ignore customers who spend the transaction talking on their mobile, I just stand there, mute, until they raise their eyebrows and wonder what's taking so long....... " Hang up you ignoramus"

I held the door open for a young girl the other day,She got halfway through and started texting leaving me stood there like cheese at fourpence holding the door open,I let it go,you can guess the rest:gooddog:

MargaretR 03-12-2008 20:41

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On the rare occasions I have bought from a shop this year, I did notice that the assistant looked surprised when I said 'please' and 'thank you'.
The result was a warm smile - manners are appreciated

Eric 03-12-2008 20:43

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 657082)
On the rare occasions I have bought from a shop this year, I did notice that the assistant looked surprised when I said 'please' and 'thank you'.
The result was a warm smile - manners are appreciated

Try shoplifting, then you don't have to interact with anyone;)

Eric 03-12-2008 20:43

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Oh, and have a nice day:dancedog:

Eric 03-12-2008 20:45

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I would stick around and give some more fine examples of Canadian courtesy; but the news is coming on, and I have to go see if we still have a government. If that's ok with you guys:D

West Ender 03-12-2008 20:57

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I can't abide bad manners. If I, for example, hold a door open for someone who does not say, "Thank you", I will say it for them, loudly, as they sail past me - just as you would to a small child when teaching it to be polite.

I expect people to be polite to me as I would not dream of being anything else to others. I was brought up that way, I brought up my children that way and they have brought up their own children similarly.

Sadly, we now live in a selfish world where manners are thought of as unnecessary but there is still politeness around, even among the very young. It's so refreshing when you come across it.

magpie 03-12-2008 20:59

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 657082)
On the rare occasions I have bought from a shop this year, I did notice that the assistant looked surprised when I said 'please' and 'thank you'.
The result was a warm smile - manners are appreciated


most look at you like your from another planet when you say please and thank you:

service would not go a miss in some shops.... but hey we can't have everything:

cashman 03-12-2008 21:06

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some shop assistants could do with a manners lesson, was at the till in Tesco monday dinner, n asked the girl nicely could i have some bags please, the uppity cow, then proceeded into a what i can only describe as n tirade, saying we are not allowed to put them on the counter, its to encourage re-cycling, fair enough,but it was the manner she said it in.:( i replied ok fair enough, now you can either give me the bags,or put that lot back on the shelves n i will go to asda! never seen a puss as scarlet so quickly, i got the bags.;) good manners cost nowt its that simple.

Lilly 03-12-2008 21:10

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I'm a stickler for manners and have tried to instill good manners in my children. I don't think I've done a bad job as others who have looked after them have commented on their good manners.

Children learn from their parents and if they are not taught manners at home they won't have any. If they are barked at and shouted at then they will do the same to others.

cashman 03-12-2008 21:25

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 657102)

Children learn from their parents and if they are not taught manners at home they won't have any. If they are barked at and shouted at then they will do the same to others.

got it in one Lilly.;)

Eric 03-12-2008 21:34

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Well, I guess we still have a govt. of sorts for now ... see what happens when the PM very politely;) addresses the nation at 7 tonite .... but what an ill-mannered bunch politicians are when one side is fighting for power, and the other, political survival. One of the problems with Canadian politicians is that they give us bs and bad manners in two official languages.:eek::D

grannyclaret 04-12-2008 00:03

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I always say please and thank you..its only common courtesy,,
,Like Eggheads i find a lot of people on Countdown never say please either when asking for letters, i always will them to lose ,,,

jaysay 04-12-2008 09:17

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 657100)
some shop assistants could do with a manners lesson, was at the till in Tesco monday dinner, n asked the girl nicely could i have some bags please, the uppity cow, then proceeded into a what i can only describe as n tirade, saying we are not allowed to put them on the counter, its to encourage re-cycling, fair enough,but it was the manner she said it in.:( i replied ok fair enough, now you can either give me the bags,or put that lot back on the shelves n i will go to asda! never seen a puss as scarlet so quickly, i got the bags.;) good manners cost nowt its that simple.

Your trouble is your to much of a gentleman cashy, I'd have just said stick your store and walked out leaving her to explain to her manager what had happened and why her till was full of groceries:(

katex 04-12-2008 09:58

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Feel I am reluctant to agree with you on this one Jaysay. Ever since our last thread on this subject, I have taken particular notice of people's manners and can honestly say have never been treated rudely by the general public whilst out and about.

No-one has failed to thank me for holding the door open, and all have apologised if bumped into me by accident. Even a slight collision of supermarket trolleys has invited an "Oops Sorry" even when it was obviously my fault.

I will continue, however, to carry on 'bad manner spotting' and duly submit my report... :D

jaysay 04-12-2008 11:08

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 657196)
Feel I am reluctant to agree with you on this one Jaysay. Ever since our last thread on this subject, I have taken particular notice of people's manners and can honestly say have never been treated rudely by the general public whilst out and about.

No-one has failed to thank me for holding the door open, and all have apologised if bumped into me by accident. Even a slight collision of supermarket trolleys has invited an "Oops Sorry" even when it was obviously my fault.

I will continue, however, to carry on 'bad manner spotting' and duly submit my report... :D

Thats great kate (I'm a poet and I didn't know it:D) you should be okay you won't be bumping into me:D

south aussie 04-12-2008 11:21

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Please And Thank You Dont Cost Anything
[tell All Your Friends And Thier Children]
Good Manners Are Not Only A Problem In England, But Here In Australia Too

katex 04-12-2008 11:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 657246)
Thats great kate (I'm a poet and I didn't know it:D) you should be okay you won't be bumping into me:D

Whilst I am out and about,
I do not feel the need to shout,
About 'P's' and 'Q's' around my town,
'Course you may come across the odd clown !

I am grateful I am still able,
To view racks of clothes with their swinging label,
Unlike our gentlemanly member named Jaysay,
Sure he would prefer to be out there in the fray !

xx

Ok .. as they say, will now get my boots and warm coat on ... :D

Lilly 04-12-2008 12:19

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 657144)
i find a lot of people on Countdown never say please either when asking for letters, i always will them to lose ,,,

I can shed light on that one for you.

My mum was once a contestant on Countdown back in the day when it was hosted by Richard Whiteley.

In all the bumph she was sent prior to filming there was a list of dos and don'ts.......don't wear this, don't say that etc.

One of the points was 'When playing the letters game please do not say please and thankyou after every letter. Just once or twice is sufficient.'

jaysay 04-12-2008 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 657257)
Whilst I am out and about,
I do not feel the need to shout,
About 'P's' and 'Q's' around my town,
'Course you may come across the odd clown !

I am grateful I am still able,
To view racks of clothes with their swinging label,
Unlike our gentlemanly member named Jaysay,
Sure he would prefer to be out there in the fray !

xx

Ok .. as they say, will now get my boots and warm coat on ... :D

One of your better ideas kate:rolleyes::D

grannyclaret 04-12-2008 20:23

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 657272)
I can shed light on that one for you.

My mum was once a contestant on Countdown back in the day when it was hosted by Richard Whiteley.

In all the bumph she was sent prior to filming there was a list of dos and don'ts.......don't wear this, don't say that etc.

One of the points was 'When playing the letters game please do not say please and thankyou after every letter. Just once or twice is sufficient.'

Thanks Lilly,i diddent mean after EVERY letter ,the rude people i am on about never said please at all,not even once,,,,

cherokee 04-12-2008 22:23

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Yes I do still have manners, My mother always taught me it cost nothing to have manners. :)
My own children always say please and thankyou(although on some occasions its "cheers mate " from the lads)
Our 5 yr old grandson always says please and thankyou and knows he wont get without manners. But as already said manners are taught from elders so if a child dosent have them theres only the elders to blame. On the other hand school should also teach them

I get so angry when i come across people that dont have manners, Its rude and totally uncalled for:mad:

onlyme 05-12-2008 06:34

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My son, (must be different to the secret grand- lovechild Cherokees on about cos he's 4 ;)) has been brought up to say please and thank you. We are working on excuse me at the mo. He does sometimes get over excited and forgets, but a quick prompt brings the correct response. His first words (and I;m sure hes not the only one), were ma, da, and ta, so I'm not sure its right targetting the younger generation for the lapse.

I actually find the older generation worse than anyone for lacking manners. Its hard to teach a child the social niceties when you open doors for older people and they just barge through without a word. I dont know if older people are reluctant to respond through fear of engaging with someone or whatever.

My pet hate is when driving around, and if you let someone out, they dont raise their hand to say thanks, again the main culprits are older drivers. Winds me up badly, and I'm often tempted to give my own hand gesture just to remind them ;)

katex 07-12-2008 17:21

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E-on called on Thursday ... was out and he left a card to say would be returning Friday afternoon.

E-on, of course, read Gas and Electricity (if you have both with them) ... but the reader had put on the card 'Electricity please'. Thought this was quite sweet ... missed him again though on the Friday.

Benipete 07-12-2008 22:13

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 658104)
E-on called on Thursday ... was out and he left a card to say would be returning Friday afternoon.

E-on, of course, read Gas and Electricity (if you have both with them) ... but the reader had put on the card 'Electricity please'. Thought this was quite sweet ... missed him again though on the Friday.

A girl can get herself a bad name.:hehetable

jaysay 08-12-2008 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 658104)
E-on called on Thursday ... was out and he left a card to say would be returning Friday afternoon.

E-on, of course, read Gas and Electricity (if you have both with them) ... but the reader had put on the card 'Electricity please'. Thought this was quite sweet ... missed him again though on the Friday.

Its no good keep missing these blokes kate, or you'll be playing Muds old Christmas song "It will be lonely this Christmas":D


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