how come these two werent extradited??
 

surely if i'd commit a similar crime in the uk and run off to pakistan then i would be brought back right? since the crime was commited in pakistan why werent they sent back there since no crime was commited in the uk, does the uk legal system have the right to carry out sentances for crimes commited in other countries?

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i agree they should be extrodited to the country where the crime occured but then again the UK is full of wanted people in other countries and european law stops us sending them away for trial , that terrorist preacher with hooks for hands is a good example as america has been after him for years but europe wont let us send him to them

i think it has somthing to do with the human rights act which i hope they will abolish or at least modify to stop criminals hiding behind it

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I was kind of curious about this , seems Pakistan has the death penalty , and these two would be liable for it if found guilty over there . Seems British law forbids the extradition of persons who may face such a punishment .

Cynical sod that I am , I wonder how many of the witnesses who flew to the UK to give evidence at the trail (at taxpayers expense) will bother to return home ;) ;)

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Canadian law also forbids extradition of persons who may face capital punishment; however, in certain ill defined extreme circumstances, people may be extradited ... the govt. makes the decision; however, the decision can be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court .... (unlike the American Supreme Court Justices, Canadian judges are not appointed on the basis of their conformity to the principles and prejudices of the government in power.)

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The only thing I can think of Mani is that all three were British Citizens, the victim and the accused. Maybe if Greg reads this he may be able to shed some light on the matter, and if he doesn't know I bet he knows a man who does:rolleyes:

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would think its the fact of the death penalty as others have said. if it is then it shouldn't matter a jot, fer me were ya commit the crime,is where ya should be put on trial.

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I've been kicking off about this, we are going to pick up the Legal Aid bill and no doubt several pointless appeal costs, plus prison costs and any relatives who will now be getting benefits, the bill will run into several million pounds and guess who is paying?

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Quite correct in your quote
Is this not always the situation that the Goverment tax payer takes when these so called delicate matters arise

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In another thread you said you were half Pakistani.

What would happen if you committed a murder whilst on holiday out there?

Would we just send half of you back to hang?

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A good series on the National Geographic Channel , Locked up Abroad , some very not nice places , lots of young westerners crying about how their Human rights were being violated , usually for transporting kilos of drugs :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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I think we have the same programme over here on Channel 5, though it might be called Banged Up Abroad.

I'm always amazed how the drug smugglin' scum has the audacity to go on camera after their release, as you say, bleating about how terrible those nasty foreign jails have been.

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Can't do the time?

Well don't shove bags of smack up yer daisy lady.;)

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jaysay

na the victim was pakistani

yeah the death penalty thing didnt think of that one. as for the islamic cleric - its a similar reason we cant extradite him either because the country of his origin is known to use torture methods and hence he would face such dealings if sent back

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OK, so we refuse to extradite to a country with Capital Punishment

but..

no crime has been comiited on UK soil so why are we doing anything about it? I personally don't agree with teh first line of this post, if they do the crime then it up to them to do the time/punishment deemed fit in that country. As said, who's paying for the prison/etc for teh next 20 years? US

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Once again , the refusal to extradite is just another example of 'paternalistic' neo-colonialism , the 'so called' educated west telling other independant countries that 'we' are more civilized (advanced) than they are . Any wonder that there is a so called war on terror :confused: :confused:

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Think the problem with this country is that we always have to take the moral high ground, we don't have the death penalty, so we shouldn't send people back, who have committed crimes, to countries that do have the death penalty. Why should we be an haven for foreign criminals, who deserve punishing in the countries they have committed the crimes, why should the british tax payer keep them in luxury for years, wonder if Captain Hook will enjoy his Christmas dinner, no doubt some pensioners will not get half the spread that cons will get at Christmas:(

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She was forced into that marriage, in her place, I might have done the same.

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We do extradite people to countries which have the death penalty, the U.S.A. being one of them.

Does it depend on which state the crime was committed in, before we agre to send them back, depending on whether that particular state has the death penalty?

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interesting point,should think thats the case, unless our masters remove the "Moral High Ground":rolleyes:

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I think the moral to be taken from all this is that if you're going to commit a murder in a country/state with the death penalty, is to have your escape plan back to Blighty in place before you do it, in order to have a more cushty life in a British prison, and not risk hanging by the neck abroad.

Scot Kenny Richey spent twenty years on death row in Ohio, after killing a child in an arson attack, and it did realistically look as if he would be executed, though he was released earlier this year.

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not sure how things work between the UK and the US , we recently (last year) had the Entwistle case in Massachusetts (non death penalty State)Entwistle murder case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm thinking from previous news reports the various States have to 'sign' an agreement with the extradition Country (if no death penalty exists) that it will not be carried out in the State where the trial is to be held . The one's which gets the most press are Mexico (non death penalty Country) , v Texas and California both border States , someone does a murder, jumps the border and is more or less free from extradition . Think Canada also follows a similar policy

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If I commited a crime whilst on holiday I should expect to be dealt by the laws of that country and to be treated no differently than other citizens of that country that I commited a crime in, which is normaly
the case.I explained before that I was joking about being half pakistan to a comment I received but even if I was what difference should this make.
Why should murderers be dealt with any different from drug smugglers.
I am well aware it is because of the death penalty but I think these people should be tried in the country of there crime and if found guilty expect the law of that land.
When in Rome

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I missed the post where you said you weren't half Pakistani, and that it was a 'joke'.

Stupidly I tend to believe what people actually post on here, and take them at face value.

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why is being half pakistani a joke??

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You evidently haven't read all Gordies post ema:rolleyes:

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Because then no one will like you :eek:


Oops you can't have a joke on here, everyone takes you seriously :rolleyes:

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Oh come on Neil since when has anybody taken you seriously on here:D

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I said something like I was a quarter English a quarter Irish a quarter Scotish and a full half Pakistan in reference to a amusing remark. That makes one and a quarter if you can not see that this was a joke and stupidly taken this quote at face value well you must be very silly or not very good at being sarcastic.

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Oh trust me.

I'm very good.;)

It was quite obvious that someone, who in many different threads, as been so anti-Muslim, would't be Pakistani.

It was simple to work you out.;)

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was just thinking about all the Brits/English that have been given the death penalty in places like Thialand... then have the British government beg for thier release....these things work both ways...it's got nowt to do with Mulsims or Christians.. Pakistan ..or any religion... now stop stirring up kak.

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Pity it didn't work for John Baker, Andrew Mckenzie and Costas Georgiou , and these were "Govt" employees , funny how it happened whilst there was a Labour Govt. in power :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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eh? weren't they the once very pop group called "Wham" ?

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sorry , try again

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You might think you are good but obviously you are not very good ;)
If it was simple what nonsense where you going on about then