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jaysay 15-12-2008 16:14
Bush gets the Boot
 
George W. was the target for one local jurno in Iraq, he threw his shoes at him, I think its ridiculous that this guy treated Mr. Bush in this way, at least he could have hit him instead of missing by a country mile:D

Royboy39 15-12-2008 16:27
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I'm not a Bush lover nor do I think he did right when attacking Iraq.
I think the Journalist is a very lucky lad only to have been arrested, in the day's of Saddam he would have been taken outside and shot as would be the case in any other Arab country.

cashman 15-12-2008 17:11
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my thoughts exactly roy, he only got slammed in clink, saddam would have topped him no question, also i agree it was wrong to go into iraq, but this silly incident does prove the place has improved.

accyman 15-12-2008 17:18
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its a pity the shoe wasnt a bullet and it wasnt 10 years ago

imagine how much less hassle the world would be in

mind you we woulda still had tony bloody blair :rolleyes:

Benipete 15-12-2008 18:07
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If he'd bought the shoes at Tommy Balls and left the string on it may well have worked.:D:D.

Garrott to have a laugh:hehetable

mthead 15-12-2008 18:34
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For those who haven't seen the icident here it is :)

YouTube - Bush gets the Boot

cashman 15-12-2008 23:15
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was talking to n iraqi guy earlier n he was saying throwing of shoes is n insult big time. remember when they toppled the statue of saddam in Bagdad, they were snotting it wi there shoes.:D

steeljack 15-12-2008 23:31
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 660388)
was talking to n iraqi guy earlier n he was saying throwing of shoes is n insult big time. remember when they toppled the statue of saddam in Bagdad, they were snotting it wi there shoes.:D

And this is a big part of the whole Iraqi /Afghani catastrope , George Bush's and his administrations complete ignorance of other peoples culture , the guy has absolute no comprehension about how other people think or feel about their national history or culture , sooner he is gone the better .

Thread wander ....I miss Bullseyebarb , wish she would come back , though can't really blame her, the slagging she had to take for every post .

cashman 15-12-2008 23:35
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 660390)
And this is a big part of the whole Iraqi /Afghani catastrope , George Bush's and his administrations complete ignorance of other peoples culture , the guy has absolute no comprehension about how other people think or feel about their national history or culture , sooner he is gone the better .
nail on the head, after all this is a guy who cannot run n honest election in his own country, so other peoples culture- no chance.:)

Studio25 16-12-2008 08:46
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 660289)
...at least he could have hit him instead of missing by a country mile:D
Perhaps it was a poignant stab at the accuracy of his own armed forces- and the irony was lost on GWB...

cashman 16-12-2008 08:49
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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 660407)
Perhaps it was a poignant stab at the accuracy of his own armed forces- and the irony was lost on GWB...
owt regarding thinking about would be lost on him.:D

Studio25 16-12-2008 12:26
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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 660292)
...I think the Journalist is a very lucky lad only to have been arrested, in the day's of Saddam he would have been taken outside and shot as would be the case in any other Arab country.
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Shoe thrower 'beaten in custody'


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The Iraqi authorities have said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law, although it is not yet clear what the charges might be.
Missing? :D

bullseyebarb 16-12-2008 16:58
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 660390)
Thread wander ....I miss Bullseyebarb , wish she would come back , though can't really blame her, the slagging she had to take for every post .

Gone, (temporarily), but not forgotten. Ah, how sweet. Not to worry, steeljack.....I can take the heat. Haven't checked in on you guys for a while because I have been really, really busy. Also traveling a lot.

I thought President Bush was very nimble in said shoe incident and showed his good humor to the max. I hope the Iraqis will slap the journalist with something akin to disturbing the peace. Minor offense. Bad manners at most. Personally, I think it's great that this guy felt comfortable enough to lob his footwear. As has already been stated on this thread, he wouldn't have dared to do it if Saddam had still been in power. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - that's the beauty of democratic systems.

Eric 16-12-2008 17:00
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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 660452)
Shot while trying to escape:eek:

Eric 16-12-2008 17:11
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 660495)
Gone, (temporarily), but not forgotten. Ah, how sweet. Not to worry, steeljack.....I can take the heat. Haven't checked in on you guys for a while because I have been really, really busy. Also traveling a lot.

I thought President Bush was very nimble in said shoe incident and showed his good humor to the max. I hope the Iraqis will slap the journalist with something akin to disturbing the peace. Minor offense. Bad manners at most. Personally, I think it's great that this guy felt comfortable enough to lob his footwear. As has already been stated on this thread, he wouldn't have dared to do it if Saddam had still been in power. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - that's the beauty of democratic systems.
Hi Barb, welcome back, eh.

Problem is not that he felt comfortable throwing the shoes, it's that too many Iraqis still feel comfortable strapping explosive to themselves and heading off for that big virgin fest in the sky.

Talking about democracy; wasn't it President Reagan who wanted to pass a law banning the burning of the American flag ... I think someone explained the First Ammendment to him, and he kinda understood it enough to back off.:eek:

I remember one Canadian expressing his freedom by shoving a pie in PM Jean Chretien's face:alright:

However, the shoe flinger is probably having the crap beaten out of him as we speak.

bullseyebarb 16-12-2008 18:43
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 660504)
Hi Barb, welcome back, eh.

Problem is not that he felt comfortable throwing the shoes, it's that too many Iraqis still feel comfortable strapping explosive to themselves and heading off for that big virgin fest in the sky.

Talking about democracy; wasn't it President Reagan who wanted to pass a law banning the burning of the American flag ... I think someone explained the First Ammendment to him, and he kinda understood it enough to back off.:eek:

I remember one Canadian expressing his freedom by shoving a pie in PM Jean Chretien's face:alright:

However, the shoe flinger is probably having the crap beaten out of him as we speak.
Thanks.

Only the radical Islamists go the bomb route.

No, it wasn't President Reagan. The anti-desecration acts go back a long way. First cropped up post Civil War.....1897-1932. Eventually, 48 states passed anti-desecration laws. The first national Flag Protection Act was passed by the U.S. Congress in 1968 and upheld by the Supreme Court in 1969. The Supreme Court struck down the law in 1989. Further attempts at flag protection were attempted by Congress in 1995, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005 and 2006. None have passed muster.

I don't like to see the flag of my country desecrated. However, I believe it is a form of protected speech and as long as you own the flag you choose to desecrate - have at it.

We do not yet know the fate of the journalist in question. I haven't, (as of this posting), seen any credible source confirm that he is being beaten. I sincerely hope that he will not be harmed.

cashman 16-12-2008 18:49
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welcome back barb.:) thats the problem though- spotting a "Radical Islamist":confused: the guy found guilty only today fer the car bomb attack on glasgow airport, was n N.H.S. doctor, people knew him as a nice friendly, sociable chap etc, therefore he was not on the police radar.:confused: thats worrying to me.:eek:

bullseyebarb 16-12-2008 19:06
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 660540)
welcome back barb.:) thats the problem though- spotting a "Radical Islamist":confused: the guy found guilty only today fer the car bomb attack on glasgow airport, was n N.H.S. doctor, people knew him as a nice friendly, sociable chap etc, therefore he was not on the police radar.:confused: thats worrying to me.:eek:
Yes, that's the tricky part. And for that I have no good answer for you. One hates to go around being suspicious of every Muslim one meets. The government needs to maintain diligence with its surveillance....but there is so much political correctness these days. I think it may be the undoing of us all.

polly 16-12-2008 19:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 660390)
And this is a big part of the whole Iraqi /Afghani catastrope , George Bush's and his administrations complete ignorance of other peoples culture , the guy has absolute no comprehension about how other people think or feel about their national history or culture , sooner he is gone the better .

Thread wander ....I miss Bullseyebarb , wish she would come back , though can't really blame her, the slagging she had to take for every post .
No the big catastrophe is that the American people don't understand what a ******* they have had leading them and how he has lead them into a needless war and killed off their sons and daughters,together with Iraqi sons and daughters (and ours to) all without the slightest justification.

Eric 16-12-2008 19:27
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 660542)
Yes, that's the tricky part. And for that I have no good answer for you. One hates to go around being suspicious of every Muslim one meets. The government needs to maintain diligence with its surveillance....but there is so much political correctness these days. I think it may be the undoing of us all.
I don't think it is political correctness, so much as trying to achieve a balance between national security and individual freedom .... problem is, national security is founded on a free population ... and a free population can exist only in a nation secure .... :confused:

Eric 16-12-2008 19:33
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Originally Posted by polly (Post 660544)
No the big catastrophe is that the American people don't understand what a ******* they have had leading them and how he has lead them into a needless war and killed off their sons and daughters,together with Iraqi sons and daughters (and ours to) all without the slightest justification.
And in all this, Tony Blair and the British Government, must also shoulder much of the blame .... Blair could have said no; he didn't .... Jean Chretien said, "non" :alright: ... and we are still on great terms with our neighbours to the south. The Americans can elect whomever they want ... it's their country ... that doesn't mean that others have to go along with what they decide to do to make their country secure.


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