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cherokee 14-01-2009 00:19

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 668856)
And there's more. I've just heard this on the radio.

BREAKING NEWS: Prince Charles Calls Asian Friend "Sooty''

The Prince of Wales has become embroiled in controversy after it was claimed he has long called an Asian polo playing friend by the "affectionate nickname" of "Sooty".

Although refusing to respond to the specific allegation, Clarence House says it is "completely ridiculous" to suggest that Prince Charles is racist.

The Indian-born friend of the prince, Kuldip Singh Dhillon, is said to be "comfortable" with the nickname which Clarence House says is widely used by members of Cirencester Polo Club. I'm no royalist but they must have nothing better to write about at the moment. I bet they wouldn't report if Charlie's mate calls him Chalky.:D


BBC Story here



Time for a public uproar if you ask me. its getting stupid . Thing is the public are 95% behind harry and his dad so why dont the damn powers that be sit up and take note ..HELLLLLOOOOOO!!!!! Gordon wake up and look around .

jaysay 14-01-2009 09:18

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Any word can be offencive when used in a way to offend, but in these cases its quite easy to see that what Harry and his Father have said are terms of endearment not racist insults in any way shape or from, but until we stop the Guardian reading moronic PC brigade set the agenda nothing is ever going to change

panther 14-01-2009 09:30

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Even the golliwog is classed as racist!. and Robertsons jam dont use it on the jars anymore!

Taggy 14-01-2009 12:32

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 669029)
Even the golliwog is classed as racist!. and Robertsons jam dont use it on the jars anymore!

I know someone who has one on her keyring though!!;).....a Golliwog i mean...not a Jar Of Jam!!:)

Best Regards - Taggy

Gordie 14-01-2009 14:22

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 668856)
And there's more. I've just heard this on the radio.

BREAKING NEWS: Prince Charles Calls Asian Friend "Sooty''

The Prince of Wales has become embroiled in controversy after it was claimed he has long called an Asian polo playing friend by the "affectionate nickname" of "Sooty".

Although refusing to respond to the specific allegation, Clarence House says it is "completely ridiculous" to suggest that Prince Charles is racist.

The Indian-born friend of the prince, Kuldip Singh Dhillon, is said to be "comfortable" with the nickname which Clarence House says is widely used by members of Cirencester Polo Club. I'm no royalist but they must have nothing better to write about at the moment. I bet they wouldn't report if Charlie's mate calls him Chalky.:D


BBC Story here

Charlie boy will have no problems with his nickname for Kuldip because unlike the pakistani`s the Indians don`t have community leaders all over Britain playing the race card to further their agenda.
:flamethro:flamethro I think this with Charlie is only the press blowing wind but with Harry I think
there is dark forces pardon the expression behind his remark.

cherokee 14-01-2009 15:47

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 669076)
I know someone who has one on her keyring though!!;).....a Golliwog i mean...not a Jar Of Jam!!:)

Best Regards - Taggy

I have a gollywog hanging from my bag. took it all round Gambia with me and loads gambians wanted one.didnt have one prob and it wasnt there to offend either.
I went over and didnt even give a thought to it being on my bag although it was a great conversation starter. :D

Oh and for the record they are sold as Gollywollys here.

jaysay 14-01-2009 16:00

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 669106)
I have a golliwog hanging from my bag. took it all round Gambia with me and loads gambians wanted one.didn't have one prob and it wasn't there to offend either.
I went over and didnt even give a thought to it being on my bag although it was a great conversation starter. :D

Oh and for the record they are sold as Gollywollys here.

Yea cherokee, but they don't get the Guardian in Gambia and don't have a PC Brigade either:D:rolleyes:

garinda 14-01-2009 17:07

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Kuldip Singh Dhillon should just be glad the Prince of Wales isn't from Wigan.

There they pronounce Sooty to rhyme with cutie, rather than to rhyme with butty.

Heathens.

lancsdave 14-01-2009 17:36

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If Charles is such a good friend I'd be more worried about his sexual tendencies than his racial motives. Somebody has to have his hand up Sooty's bum for him to move :p

garinda 14-01-2009 17:42

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http://www.khaosclan.com/e107_images...ndshamster.jpg


Poor Sue.

West Ender 14-01-2009 19:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 669137)
Kuldip Singh Dhillon should just be glad the Prince of Wales isn't from Wigan.

There they pronounce Sooty to rhyme with cutie, rather than to rhyme with butty.

Heathens.


Has language evolved that much in Oswaldtwistle then? Time was when soot was pronounced the same as suit and a book was a bewk that you could lewk at while you were cewking. :D

Gordie 14-01-2009 19:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 669110)
Yea cherokee, but they don't get the Guardian in Gambia and don't have a PC Brigade either:D:rolleyes:

I am not being ignorant but I don`t know what PC brigade means I can only guess it means (Pakistani Council)
Your quote would make obvious sense then. :flamethro:flamethro

katex 14-01-2009 19:16

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Short bulletin on local news that the Producers of Coronation Street omitted the crucifix on the wedding scene in order not to offend other groups !!!!!

Am an atheist, but respect all people to follow what they wish to believe in, and authenticity in drama is essential.

They have bloody aplogised .. should think so to.. pratts :mad:

This type of PC is stimulating my racist brain cells big time !

katex 14-01-2009 19:20

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 669170)
Has language evolved that much in Oswaldtwistle then? Time was when soot was pronounced the same as suit and a book was a bewk that you could lewk at while you were cewking. :D

Nah, you're wrong West Ender .. bewk is more Yorkshire .. us Lancashire folks have never heard of diphthongs .. so would be more like book as in 'Boo' with a 'k' at the end. LOL

Gordie 14-01-2009 19:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669177)
Short bulletin on local news that the Producers of Coronation Street omitted the crucifix on the wedding scene in order not to offend other groups !!!!!

Am an atheist, but respect all people to follow what they wish to believe in, and authenticity in drama is essential.

They have bloody aplogised .. should think so to.. pratts :mad:

This type of PC is stimulating my racist brain cells big time !

Mine have been stimulated for quite some time now Latex I mean Katex on these supposedly racial discrimination issues :alright:

Eric 14-01-2009 19:59

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On the general issue of political correctness, I came across this quote in Lewis Lapham's collection of essays, "Waiting for the Barbarians." In his essay, "In the Garden of Tabloid Delight", as part of his conclusion, he comments: "Absent a unified field of moral law that commands a sufficiently large number of people to obedience and belief, with what else do we fill in the blanks except a lot of little rules - rules about how to address persons of differing colors or sexual orientation, about when to wear fur and when not to eat grapes, about what to read or where to smoke." Though his prose tends to be academic rather than clear, I think he is making a good point.

Sara 14-01-2009 20:04

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[quote=Gordie;669174]I am not being ignorant but I don`t know what PC brigade means I can only guess it means (Pakistani Council)
[/quote

PC means Political Correctness

Royboy39 14-01-2009 20:06

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[quote=Sara;669194]
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669174)
I am not being ignorant but I don`t know what PC brigade means I can only guess it means (Pakistani Council)
[/quote

PC means Political Correctness

Sara.................that was a wind up :D

bondi38 14-01-2009 20:24

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You are a mind of information wish you lived here you could help me with loads of stuff that i have problems with this stupid council that we have here.

West Ender 14-01-2009 20:26

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669178)
Nah, you're wrong West Ender .. bewk is more Yorkshire .. us Lancashire folks have never heard of diphthongs .. so would be more like book as in 'Boo' with a 'k' at the end. LOL


Hey, I'm Lancashire folk too you know. :)

Perhaps I made the error of putting in slightly misleading vowels to illustrate the point. OK, for the sake of nitpicking, let's say boooook, loooook and coooook - with the double O as in "hoof".

West Yorkshire has a more "downwardly" pronounced double O, more like bo-uk. It's hard to transcribe without the phonetic pronunciation alphabet on my keyboard. ;)

I love accents, have studied them (and spoken them) all my life, and I can differentiate some accents to within a few miles, especially near the places I've lived - Lancs, Rutland, Brum, Coventry, Yorks, Durham and now Cheshire - in that order. :D

Now, no more thread hijacking. :rolleyes:

katex 14-01-2009 20:31

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It's OK Westender .. love accents too.

Would have thought bo-uk was more North East though .. gosh, difficult to put across on text isn't it ? Time we got some kind of sound link up on here .. is that possible I wonder ? :D

Royboy39 14-01-2009 20:33

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669206)
It's OK Westender .. love accents too.

Would have thought bo-uk was more North East though .. gosh, difficult to put across on text isn't it ? Time we got some kind of sound link up on here .. is that possible I wonder ? :D

Sod off......Ear bashing from one female is enough, thankyou very much. :p

Gordie 14-01-2009 21:09

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[quote=Sara;669194]
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669174)
I am not being ignorant but I don`t know what PC brigade means I can only guess it means (Pakistani Council)
[/quote

PC means Political Correctness

Thanks Sara :thankya:

West Ender 14-01-2009 21:12

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669206)
It's OK Westender .. love accents too.

Would have thought bo-uk was more North East though .. gosh, difficult to put across on text isn't it ? Time we got some kind of sound link up on here .. is that possible I wonder ? :D


My brother has a cine film, from about 1974, of me and my older children in my parents' back garden in Blackburn. I lived in Durham City at the time and my very Geordie-sounding 9 year old son says something to which I (who, of course, don't have an accent as far as I'm concerned ;)) reply, "Go to Uncle Tony", pronouncing it as a very Geordie "Torny" and sounding like a born and bred Durhamite. :p

Gordie 14-01-2009 21:19

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 669202)
Hey, I'm Lancashire folk too you know. :)

Perhaps I made the error of putting in slightly misleading vowels to illustrate the point. OK, for the sake of nitpicking, let's say boooook, loooook and coooook - with the double O as in "hoof".

West Yorkshire has a more "downwardly" pronounced double O, more like bo-uk. It's hard to transcribe without the phonetic pronunciation alphabet on my keyboard. ;)

I love accents, have studied them (and spoken them) all my life, and I can differentiate some accents to within a few miles, especially near the places I've lived - Lancs, Rutland, Brum, Coventry, Yorks, Durham and now Cheshire - in that order. :D

Now, no more thread hijacking. :rolleyes:

Why not say pass me the cuck buck and luck at that cuck burning sausages,got to go the buzz is due :flamethro

West Ender 14-01-2009 21:23

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669229)
Why not say pass me the cuck buck and luck at that cuck burning sausages,

I do. :D

Royboy39 14-01-2009 21:29

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669229)
Why not say pass me the cuck buck and luck at that cuck burning sausages,got to go the buzz is due :flamethro

What a load of Gollocks. ;)

Gordie 14-01-2009 21:34

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 669239)
What a load of Gollocks. ;)

Well if thats the case why dont you try one of these up your kilt :flamethro

garinda 14-01-2009 22:36

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 669170)
Has language evolved that much in Oswaldtwistle then? Time was when soot was pronounced the same as suit and a book was a bewk that you could lewk at while you were cewking. :D

I've never heard anyone in Ossy, young or old, pronounce soot like suit. To the best of my knowledge that only starts south of Darwen, towards Bolton and Wigan.

Around here it's always pronounced sutt, as in butt.

Someone with a nice tan was described as being as 'black as fire back'. Which I suppose meant their complexion was a bit sooty.:D

West Ender 14-01-2009 22:44

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Honest to God, they did when I was young. I was friendly (in a mutually hating sort of way :D) with a local chimney sweep's son and we used to call him Sooty (pronounced Suity) because we were obnoxious - as most 10 year old girls are. :rolleyes:

garinda 14-01-2009 22:58

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 669265)
Honest to God, they did when I was young. I was friendly (in a mutually hating sort of way :D) with a local chimney sweep's son and we used to call him Sooty (pronounced Suity) because we were obnoxious - as most 10 year old girls are. :rolleyes:

I think you had your own little 'suity' enclave over in the West End.

Everyone I know, even the old time Gobbiners, say 'sutt'.

Perhaps we should have a poll.

I could run a sweep stake.

:D

jaysay 15-01-2009 09:50

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[quote=Sara;669194]
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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669174)
I am not being ignorant but I don`t know what PC brigade means I can only guess it means (Pakistani Council)
[/quote

PC means Political Correctness

Sara don't ever think that Gordie didn't know what PC meant, he has is own agenda when it comes to our Commonwealth Brethren:rolleyes:

jaysay 15-01-2009 10:02

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669177)
Short bulletin on local news that the Producers of Coronation Street omitted the crucifix on the wedding scene in order not to offend other groups !!!!!

Am an atheist, but respect all people to follow what they wish to believe in, and authenticity in drama is essential.

They have bloody aplogised .. should think so to.. pratts :mad:

This type of PC is stimulating my racist brain cells big time !

When I saw that kate I had to stop and think of the logic behind this action, your filming a wedding in a Church (don't know whether it was a
C of E or RC but they got £4500 for a location fee, which they are using to buy a new cross:D) Well in every church I've been in there as been a cross, its part of the Church thing, if they wanted to be touchy why didn't they just have there ceremony at Registry Office or a civil building. If your using a church then portray it right or keep the hell out. Whoever came up with this clap trap should be another statistic on the job lose front

katex 15-01-2009 10:19

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Found a link Jaysay, they actually hid it not remove it :

Cross 'offensive', says Corrie - News - Manchester Evening News

It's just that sometimes, it's attitudes like this make you more angry towards other groups, which isn't really fair on them I know.

Just like the Harry thing .. some spokespeople making a situation worse than what it was.

jaysay 15-01-2009 11:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 669356)
Found a link Jaysay, they actually hid it not remove it :

Cross 'offensive', says Corrie - News - Manchester Evening News

It's just that sometimes, it's attitudes like this make you more angry towards other groups, which isn't really fair on them I know.

Just like the Harry thing .. some spokespeople making a situation worse than what it was.

Well, the thing with Harry is worrying really in as much as that somebody who obviously Harry classed as a friend and comrade sold him down the river for 30 pieces of silver, that's what would bother me more than anything if I was on active service, knowing that a person, who is supposed to be watching your back, has actually stabbed him in the back in that way just to make a few quid

Gordie 15-01-2009 13:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 669380)
Well, the thing with Harry is worrying really in as much as that somebody who obviously Harry classed as a friend and comrade sold him down the river for 30 pieces of silver, that's what would bother me more than anything if I was on active service, knowing that a person, who is supposed to be watching your back, has actually stabbed him in the back in that way just to make a few quid

From what I understand of the situation with Harry`s predicament it was the uncle of Harry`s comrade and his PC brigade who sold Harry down the river.
Loyalty to these spokesmen who represents these communities I believe will always come first and their only other loyalty is Harry`s Grandmothers pound sterling :pph34r::flamethro

jaysay 15-01-2009 16:13

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 669428)
From what I understand of the situation with Harry`s predicament it was the uncle of Harry`s comrade and his PC brigade who sold Harry down the river.
Loyalty to these spokesmen who represents these communities I believe will always come first and their only other loyalty is Harry`s Grandmothers pound sterling :pph34r::flamethro

Well it was the guy who took the film in the first place never mind his uncle, if this guy had anything about him he'd have made sure that this didn't hit the papers, but that's the trouble today people are prepared to sell their soul and principles for personal gain, just ask Tony Blair

yerself 15-01-2009 17:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay
people are prepared to sell their soul and principles for personal gain, just ask Tony Blair

Or Neil Hamilton.:rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D

Pheonix 12-11-2010 20:40

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Being a Pakki and served in the British Army, I say what happens in the Barrack Room should stay in the Barrack Room. In Haary's case it appears that it was more affectionate than racist and as someone said in an earlier post, it it did not offend the recipient then why all the furore. In the forces you give as good as you get that is the nature or Army life. There are more important things going on in the world than being called names. This week is Rememberance Sunday and we should be thinking of all those that gave their lives so we could live freely and have the opportunity to call people names.

cashman 12-11-2010 22:04

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Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 860993)
Being a Pakki and served in the British Army, I say what happens in the Barrack Room should stay in the Barrack Room. In Haary's case it appears that it was more affectionate than racist and as someone said in an earlier post, it it did not offend the recipient then why all the furore. In the forces you give as good as you get that is the nature or Army life. There are more important things going on in the world than being called names. This week is Rememberance Sunday and we should be thinking of all those that gave their lives so we could live freely and have the opportunity to call people names.

Good lad Phoenix, i missed this thread when it started, due to being outa the country, its just the usual balls from the press, stirring up as they do,i worked fer near 23 yrs wi mostly asians n had n still have many mates amongst em, those were addressed as pakkis by me, they addressed me as Mr Barsteward,:D twas just good fun n craic, no offense taken either way, yet even on here i was once reported by a young political ****** fer using the word in the chatroom, :( was well before this thread was even started, i notice that ****** aint commented at all on the thread, speaks volumes about him to me.:rolleyes:

Mancie 12-11-2010 22:43

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I don't think Harry is racist at all..when you are in life or death situations like those in the forces face it does not matter what or who the bloke watching your back is as long as you have trust in him to back you up.. I think that came across.
There is a line that is to be drawn, if calling someone a nigger or pakki and it is meant as an insult.. then you are asking for trouble..that's the difference.

cashman 12-11-2010 23:00

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 861020)
I don't think Harry is racist at all..when you are in life or death situations like those in the forces face it does not matter what or who the bloke watching your back is as long as you have trust in him to back you up.. I think that came across.
There is a line that is to be drawn, if calling someone a nigger or pakki and it is meant as an insult.. then you are asking for trouble..that's the difference.

agree i don't think he's racist, it is how its meant, trouble is mancie those who can't or won't see the difference. thats were the trouble begins.;)

jaysay 13-11-2010 09:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 861023)
agree i don't think he's racist, it is how its meant, trouble is mancie those who can't or won't see the difference. thats were the trouble begins.;)

And there's a lot of them about cashy, sadly


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